Re: Introducing Myself, Looking to Learn

[Anand Moon]

Hi All,

It's good to start with LDD3 for beginner, But we end up just compiling the 
modules from the examples.
Most of us don't now how to test these modules. But we can get learn the basic 
of module programming.

Real challenge are in the kernel source tree.
For example if we have a wireless/Ethernet card in laptop, 
you can go thought the changes that are happing with your driver with respect 
to old kernel.
Also try to understand the patches that are been currently discuss in the 
mailing list.
Understand the discussion that take place in mail chains, these will help 
clearing you concepts. 
Understand the protocol used by the driver and how new support can be added to 
it.
Integrating with the original developer will give you new thought.

Also user space is very good area to explore and very important one.
If you just load the driver but don't configure it correctly It will not work 
to it's potential.
How we configure you driver, where are the configuration files.
Try to so all the configuration chances manually, this will help a lot.
Try to trace the functionality from the user space IOCtl call to driver, 
modparams etc.
We always try to use the configuration that's available in the internet.
We do not go beyond that configuration and try to experiment on new values,
May be we should do that and see how it works or behaves.

One more thing getting to compile a custom configured kernel for you PC is 
important step.
Having knowledge of GIT is must now a days.

And you will become you own mentor for that driver.

-Anand Moon



On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:11 PM, Matthias Brugger  
wrote:
  
2013/9/3 Robert P. J. Day :
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2013, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 02:05:42 +0530, Varad Gautam said:
>> > Hi Vladis! Thanks for replying. I think I would be fine with
>> > writing real code once I figure out what goes where.
>>
>> Well, assuming you have a background as a professional or very
>> serious amateur programmer, *and* you have a *particular* drive to
>> do something specific.  There's still a lot of code being added by
>> amateurs who have some weird USB device that doesn't have a driver
>> and so on - but there's less and less room for beginners that just
>> want to hack code and don't care where.  Data structures and
>> algorithms have gotten more complex, the locking is more
>> fine-grained and subtle - gone are the days you could just take the
>> Big Kernel Lock and not worry, now you ofteh have to understand
>> stuff like RCU locking.
>>
>> So you might want to stop and ask yourself *why* you want to write
>> code for the kernel. :)
>
>  i'm going to jump in here since i see this question annoyingly
> frequently -- "i'm new to the kernel and i want to get involved and
> write code; how do i start?"  to be blunt, if that's your starting
> point, you're not ready to write code for the kernel. period.
>
>  as vladis quite correctly points out, gone are the days when there
> was piles of simple coding to be done. most of the kernel is well
> established, solid and stable, and ongoing development is *very*
> advanced. in other words, there's less and less room for enthusiastic
> beginners. but there's more.
>
>  at the very least, you should have an idea of what part of the kernel
> interests you most. if you can't even identify which major subsystem
> -- networking, USB, video, etc. -- you want to work on, you aren't
> even *remotely* ready to start writing code.
>
>  it's somewhat absurd to say you want to get involved in kernel
> development, then ask *others* where you should start. it's like
> saying, "i really want to write a book, but i have no idea what i
> should write about. can you give me some ideas for a plot? and
> characters? and possibly an ending?" yes, it's that silly.
>
>  if you're a beginner, then the obvious starting point is to start
> reading. and read. and read. and when you're done reading, read some
> more. and slowly, you'll figure out what interests you most. and
> that's where you then spend your time.

Basically my answer to this kind of questions is, to start reading
LDD3 [1] try to figure out what have changed and try to get the source
code examples work with a newer kernel [2].

[1] http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[2] https://github.com/martinezjavier/ldd3

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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Aldo Iljazi]

 Naman Shekhar Mishra wrote:

> Hi mentors,
> I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going to
> try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
> what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS but
> would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
> (and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It would
> be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
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Re: Are you interested in a Linux Kernel Off-topic Mailing List?

[Aldo Iljazi]

 rush wrote:

> A good option may be google groups. (  href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview";>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview
>  ) -- wbr,rush. 
>  13.11.2013, 23:35, "Aldo Iljazi" 
> :So do you guys have any 
> suggestions on where to setup the mailing list?Thanks for your 
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Re: Are you interested in a Linux Kernel Off-topic Mailing List?

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So do you guys have any suggestions on where to setup the mailing list?

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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Geyslan Gregório Bem]

2013/11/13 Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Geyslan Gregório Bem 
> wrote:
>>
>> 2013/11/13 Mandeep Sandhu :
>> >> Why not ask him? :-D
>> >
>> > Straight from the horse's mouth! :)
>> >
>> > -mandeep
>> >
>> > PS: Put your fire-retardant suit and fire away on LKML! :P
>>
>> I'm not so crazy at all. LOL!
>>
> I don't think it is of much consequence anyway.  Though I am very inclined
> to believe old timers mostly use either redhat based distros or Debian.
>
I agree. What is important is to have easy access to packages.
Or not! What really matters is like the distribution.

Personal taste. Period.
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

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2013/11/13 Mandeep Sandhu :
>> Why not ask him? :-D
>
> Straight from the horse's mouth! :)
>
> -mandeep
>
> PS: Put your fire-retardant suit and fire away on LKML! :P

I'm not so crazy at all. LOL!

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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Geyslan Gregório Bem]

2013/11/13 Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Mandeep Sandhu
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
>>  wrote:
>> > Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox use Fedora(or other redhat distros), though
>> > Alan
>> > talked about shifting to other distros due to his annoyance with Fedora.
>>
>> Nit -picking here...but Linus does not Fedora...if anything, I think,
>> he _hates_ Fedora and Gnome (3)! :)
>>
>> A more informed answer on Quora:
>>
>> http://www.quora.com/Linux/What-Linux-distribution-does-Linus-Torvalds-use-on-his-MacBook-Air
>
> It talks about what he uses on __Mac book air__,
> Here is another link which says he used Fedora 9 on a __most__ of his
> computers
> http://news.oreilly.com/2008/07/linux-torvalds-on-linux-distri.html
>
>
>>
>>
>> I saw a G+ post of his where he was very pleased with the Samsung
>> pixel running ChromeOS. Though that was not for development purpose
>> (only reading stuff).
>>
> I read that whole discussion, he never said that he __hates__  Fedora, he
> was expressing his dismay that the kernel was not updated with proper
> wireless driver which are required for him to get the driver because that
> machine(not sure which one) doesn't have an ethernet port.
> But he does hate Gnome. Also from his post, he seems to be using Fedora more
> often than any other distros.
>>
>> -mandeep
>
Why not ask him? :-D

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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Geyslan Gregório Bem wrote:

> 2013/11/13 Mandeep Sandhu :
> >> Why not ask him? :-D
> >
> > Straight from the horse's mouth! :)
> >
> > -mandeep
> >
> > PS: Put your fire-retardant suit and fire away on LKML! :P
>
> I'm not so crazy at all. LOL!
>
> I don't think it is of much consequence anyway.  Though I am very inclined
to believe old timers mostly use either redhat based distros or Debian.


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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Mandeep Sandhu]

> Why not ask him? :-D

Straight from the horse's mouth! :)

-mandeep

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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Mandeep Sandhu <
mandeepsandhu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
>  wrote:
> > Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox use Fedora(or other redhat distros), though
> Alan
> > talked about shifting to other distros due to his annoyance with Fedora.
>
> Nit -picking here...but Linus does not Fedora...if anything, I think,
> he _hates_ Fedora and Gnome (3)! :)
>
> A more informed answer on Quora:
>
> http://www.quora.com/Linux/What-Linux-distribution-does-Linus-Torvalds-use-on-his-MacBook-Air
>
It talks about what he uses on __Mac book air__,
Here is another link which says he used Fedora 9 on a __most__ of his
computers
http://news.oreilly.com/2008/07/linux-torvalds-on-linux-distri.html



>
> I saw a G+ post of his where he was very pleased with the Samsung
> pixel running ChromeOS. Though that was not for development purpose
> (only reading stuff).
>
> I read that whole discussion, he never said that he __hates__  Fedora, he
was expressing his dismay that the kernel was not updated with proper
wireless driver which are required for him to get the driver because that
machine(not sure which one) doesn't have an ethernet port.
But he does hate Gnome. Also from his post, he seems to be using Fedora
more often than any other distros.

>  -mandeep
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Mandeep Sandhu]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
 wrote:
> Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox use Fedora(or other redhat distros), though Alan
> talked about shifting to other distros due to his annoyance with Fedora.

Nit -picking here...but Linus does not Fedora...if anything, I think,
he _hates_ Fedora and Gnome (3)! :)

A more informed answer on Quora:
http://www.quora.com/Linux/What-Linux-distribution-does-Linus-Torvalds-use-on-his-MacBook-Air

I saw a G+ post of his where he was very pleased with the Samsung
pixel running ChromeOS. Though that was not for development purpose
(only reading stuff).

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Re: Are you interested in a Linux Kernel Off-topic Mailing List?

[Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Gustavo da Silva  wrote:

> Or even who is not interested in Linux Kernel Off-topic Mainling List,
> just don't subscribe him/her in the list.
>
>
> 2013/11/13 Gustavo da Silva 
>
>> And... ...Why not?!
>>
>> Of course!! Topics as suggested by Jerry Zhang (Salary/working
>> environment, ...) is very interesting. And others topics may be "very"
>> interesting too.
>>
>> And if some e-mail posted is not interesting for someone, that someone
>> just not read the e-mail, and just move to trash!!!
>>
>> Peace out.
>> Gustavo.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/13 Jerry Zhang 
>>
>>> I am interested in something like Salary/working environment/, on
>>> different Country/Area/Industry. They make more sence, coming from the
>>> front line engineer other than all kinds of officially report.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/11/13 Mulyadi Santosa 
>>>
 On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Aldo Iljazi  wrote:
 > Hello everyone. I am thinking of creating a Mailing List for our
 > community but for unofficial topics. I think it would help to know
 each
 > other and it would expand our conversation into different areas.
 >
 > Politics and Religion are prohibited topics. I was thinking the areas
 of
 > discussion to be more on Science, Sports, Life, Philosophy etc.
 >
 > What do you think?

 Hi...

 Ideally, if I we still use the name "linux kernel", then it should be
 something related to linux kernel, but more relaxed.

 One thing to notice is that kernelnewbies is not a high traffic list
 and experience shows we're not that strict when talking in
 kernelnewbies, except that we have to reject non related kernel
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tool related etc.
But anything else would be noise. Besides if there is another list, one may
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar]

Kernel development may not directly be related to the Distro. The choice of
distro is completely personal. If you have read kernel development books or
Linux in general you would have understood the same. Some distros come
ready with development tools right from onsets, for others you can use
repository for downloading and installing the tool. The kernel systems and
distros have become quite complicated for pretty much all major distros, so
the overhead is necessarily always there.
Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox use Fedora(or other redhat distros), though
Alan talked about shifting to other distros due to his annoyance with
Fedora.

Few important distros I would consider as a developer
Fedora: Pros: most development tools are installed by default and you can
get all others easily. It is pretty bleeding edge when it comes to adoption
of new open source technologies.
Cons: It might be buggy at times, it can be difficult for newbies
sometimes.
Debian: Pros: very stable releases, not so many experimental features, huge
number of packages, adheres closely to unix philosophy
Cons: fewer new releases, can be difficult to begin with or you are used to
redhat/suse based distros
Arch: Pros:newer distro, very favoured by everyone, very very comprehensive
user guides, good for development, does everything from the scratch, but
there are pre configured configs all over the place to choose from.
Cons: you should know a little bit as to what exactly are you doing, you
may have to manually configure package configuration files etc. I donno if
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Andreas Platschek]

Hi,

On 11/13/2013 11:25 AM, Mandeep Sandhu wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Naman Shekhar Mishra
>  wrote:
>> Hi mentors,
>> I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going to
>> try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
>> what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS but
> If you're comfortable with Gentoo then I guess you're ready for kernel
> development! :P (kidding!) The reason I say this is because I heard
> (I've not used Gentoo personally) that you get to build/install all
> packages from scratch before using them! :)
>
> You can also have a look at the popular ones like Ubuntu, Fedora or
> Mint (dunno much about Mint though). They come with good package
> managers and that makes installing stuff easy. So whether you want to
> install eg binutils or a new browser or even the kernel sources, the
> package manager will help you get all the stuff + it's dependencies.
Ack. Use whatever distro _YOU_ like best. The only restrictions are the
minimal requirements of the kernel. You can find them in the source in
Documentation/Changes
They should not be a problem with any newer distro, in example for 3.12
they are:

--
Current Minimal Requirements


Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've
encountered a bug!  If you're unsure what version you're currently
running, the suggested command should tell you.

Again, keep in mind that this list assumes you are already functionally
running a Linux kernel.  Also, not all tools are necessary on all
systems; obviously, if you don't have any ISDN hardware, for example,
you probably needn't concern yourself with isdn4k-utils.

o  Gnu C  3.2 # gcc --version
o  Gnu make   3.80# make --version
o  binutils   2.12# ld -v
o  util-linux 2.10o   # fdformat --version
o  module-init-tools  0.9.10  # depmod -V
o  e2fsprogs  1.41.4  # e2fsck -V
o  jfsutils   1.1.3   # fsck.jfs -V
o  reiserfsprogs  3.6.3   # reiserfsck -V
o  xfsprogs   2.6.0   # xfs_db -V
o  squashfs-tools 4.0 # mksquashfs -version
o  btrfs-progs0.18# btrfsck
o  pcmciautils004 # pccardctl -V
o  quota-tools3.09# quota -V
o  PPP2.4.0   # pppd --version
o  isdn4k-utils   3.1pre1 # isdnctrl 2>&1|grep
version
o  nfs-utils  1.0.5   # showmount --version
o  procps 3.2.0   # ps --version
o  oprofile   0.9 # oprofiled --version
o  udev   081 # udevd --version
o  grub   0.93# grub --version ||
grub-install --version
o  mcelog 0.6 # mcelog --version
o  iptables   1.4.2   # iptables -V
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>
> HTH,
> -mandeep
>
>
>> would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
>> (and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It would
>> be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
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Re: Are you interested in a Linux Kernel Off-topic Mailing List?

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Or even who is not interested in Linux Kernel Off-topic Mainling List, just
don't subscribe him/her in the list.


2013/11/13 Gustavo da Silva 

> And... ...Why not?!
>
> Of course!! Topics as suggested by Jerry Zhang (Salary/working
> environment, ...) is very interesting. And others topics may be "very"
> interesting too.
>
> And if some e-mail posted is not interesting for someone, that someone
> just not read the e-mail, and just move to trash!!!
>
> Peace out.
> Gustavo.
>
>
>
> 2013/11/13 Jerry Zhang 
>
>> I am interested in something like Salary/working environment/, on
>> different Country/Area/Industry. They make more sence, coming from the
>> front line engineer other than all kinds of officially report.
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/13 Mulyadi Santosa 
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Aldo Iljazi  wrote:
>>> > Hello everyone. I am thinking of creating a Mailing List for our
>>> > community but for unofficial topics. I think it would help to know each
>>> > other and it would expand our conversation into different areas.
>>> >
>>> > Politics and Religion are prohibited topics. I was thinking the areas
>>> of
>>> > discussion to be more on Science, Sports, Life, Philosophy etc.
>>> >
>>> > What do you think?
>>>
>>> Hi...
>>>
>>> Ideally, if I we still use the name "linux kernel", then it should be
>>> something related to linux kernel, but more relaxed.
>>>
>>> One thing to notice is that kernelnewbies is not a high traffic list
>>> and experience shows we're not that strict when talking in
>>> kernelnewbies, except that we have to reject non related kernel
>>> topics.
>>>
>>> So, I guess, off topic list might not be needed...but that's just me.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Geyslan Gregório Bem]

2013/11/13 abrahan...@gmail.com :
> I suggest you Archlinux[1], highly updated and customizable. But it's not
> broke by updates day in day out.
>
> [1] https://www.archlinux.org/
>
>
> 2013/11/13 Mandeep Sandhu 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Naman Shekhar Mishra
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi mentors,
>> > I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going
>> > to
>> > try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
>> > what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS
>> > but
>>
>> If you're comfortable with Gentoo then I guess you're ready for kernel
>> development! :P (kidding!) The reason I say this is because I heard
>> (I've not used Gentoo personally) that you get to build/install all
>> packages from scratch before using them! :)
>>
>> You can also have a look at the popular ones like Ubuntu, Fedora or
>> Mint (dunno much about Mint though). They come with good package
>> managers and that makes installing stuff easy. So whether you want to
>> install eg binutils or a new browser or even the kernel sources, the
>> package manager will help you get all the stuff + it's dependencies.
>>
>> HTH,
>> -mandeep
>>

Hi,

I have not tried gentoo yet. But I think that is a great distro for a
deep learning.
Nowadays I'm using arch and it is working very well to me.

>>
>> > would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
>> > (and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It
>> > would
>> > be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.
>> >
>> > Thanks and regards,
>> > Naman
>> >
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Re: Are you interested in a Linux Kernel Off-topic Mailing List?

[Gustavo da Silva]

And... ...Why not?!

Of course!! Topics as suggested by Jerry Zhang (Salary/working environment,
...) is very interesting. And others topics may be "very"
interesting too.

And if some e-mail posted is not interesting for someone, that someone just
not read the e-mail, and just move to trash!!!

Peace out.
Gustavo.



2013/11/13 Jerry Zhang 

> I am interested in something like Salary/working environment/, on
> different Country/Area/Industry. They make more sence, coming from the
> front line engineer other than all kinds of officially report.
>
>
> 2013/11/13 Mulyadi Santosa 
>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Aldo Iljazi  wrote:
>> > Hello everyone. I am thinking of creating a Mailing List for our
>> > community but for unofficial topics. I think it would help to know each
>> > other and it would expand our conversation into different areas.
>> >
>> > Politics and Religion are prohibited topics. I was thinking the areas of
>> > discussion to be more on Science, Sports, Life, Philosophy etc.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>>
>> Hi...
>>
>> Ideally, if I we still use the name "linux kernel", then it should be
>> something related to linux kernel, but more relaxed.
>>
>> One thing to notice is that kernelnewbies is not a high traffic list
>> and experience shows we're not that strict when talking in
>> kernelnewbies, except that we have to reject non related kernel
>> topics.
>>
>> So, I guess, off topic list might not be needed...but that's just me.
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Mulyadi Santosa
>> Freelance Linux trainer and consultant
>>
>> blog: the-hydra.blogspot.com
>> training: mulyaditraining.blogspot.com
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[abrahan...@gmail.com]

I suggest you Archlinux[1], highly updated and customizable. But it's not
broke by updates day in day out.

[1] https://www.archlinux.org/


2013/11/13 Mandeep Sandhu 

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Naman Shekhar Mishra
>  wrote:
> > Hi mentors,
> > I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going to
> > try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
> > what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS
> but
>
> If you're comfortable with Gentoo then I guess you're ready for kernel
> development! :P (kidding!) The reason I say this is because I heard
> (I've not used Gentoo personally) that you get to build/install all
> packages from scratch before using them! :)
>
> You can also have a look at the popular ones like Ubuntu, Fedora or
> Mint (dunno much about Mint though). They come with good package
> managers and that makes installing stuff easy. So whether you want to
> install eg binutils or a new browser or even the kernel sources, the
> package manager will help you get all the stuff + it's dependencies.
>
> HTH,
> -mandeep
>
>
> > would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
> > (and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It
> would
> > be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Naman
> >
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Re: What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Mandeep Sandhu]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Naman Shekhar Mishra
 wrote:
> Hi mentors,
> I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going to
> try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
> what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS but

If you're comfortable with Gentoo then I guess you're ready for kernel
development! :P (kidding!) The reason I say this is because I heard
(I've not used Gentoo personally) that you get to build/install all
packages from scratch before using them! :)

You can also have a look at the popular ones like Ubuntu, Fedora or
Mint (dunno much about Mint though). They come with good package
managers and that makes installing stuff easy. So whether you want to
install eg binutils or a new browser or even the kernel sources, the
package manager will help you get all the stuff + it's dependencies.

HTH,
-mandeep


> would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
> (and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It would
> be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Naman
>
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What is the best distro for starting linux kernel development?

[Naman Shekhar Mishra]

Hi mentors,
I have been studying the Linux kernel for some time and now I am going to
try and get my hands hands dirty with the kernel. Can you please tell me
what is the best distro for this? I have experience with Gentoo and LFS but
would they be good if I just want to get involved in  kernel development
(and not the maintenance overhead that comes with these distros)? It would
be useful for me if you could tell me the distro you use.

Thanks and regards,
Naman
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