Re: Do I need strong mathematical bases to work in the memory subsystem?

2019-10-02 Thread Ruben Safir
On 10/2/19 11:35 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:47:42 -0400, Ruben Safir said:
> 
>> I've heard this for years and when I went back for my PhD and Masters
>> degree in comp sci, I found out, low and behold, this is just not true.
> 
> The question was specific to *kernel* development.

Actually yes


> 
> Look around.  Does Linus have a PhD?  How many people at the last Kernel 
> Plumber's
> or Kernel Summit have PhDs?
> 

Linus has a Masters in Comp Sci, not that he is the greatest engineer ever.

> I'm willing to bet that there's very few PhD's in CS listed in MAINTAINERS.  
> And
> those that are, are probably coincidental...
> 

I can't testify to that, but there are ton of Master Degree coders and a
lot of mathamaticians.

General plumbing is not needed, but predictive trees, and crypto
certainly do and some hardware problems need calc, or even integration.

The harder the job, the more math is needed.

>> If you hope to do anything that is not elementry, you need serious math
>> for the algorithms, not to mention to complete the jobs being done.
>>
>> Knowing math is the real key to unlocking to potential of the power of
>> computational mathmatics.
> 
> If you're doing that sort of mathematics *inside the kernel*, there's 
> probably something
> wrong with your overall design.
> 

Maybe, but I don't think so.  And the hardware is getting more exotic.

> Just sayin'.
> 
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Re: Do I need strong mathematical bases to work in the memory subsystem?

2019-10-02 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:47:42 -0400, Ruben Safir said:

> I've heard this for years and when I went back for my PhD and Masters
> degree in comp sci, I found out, low and behold, this is just not true.

The question was specific to *kernel* development.

Look around.  Does Linus have a PhD?  How many people at the last Kernel 
Plumber's
or Kernel Summit have PhDs?

I'm willing to bet that there's very few PhD's in CS listed in MAINTAINERS.  And
those that are, are probably coincidental...

> If you hope to do anything that is not elementry, you need serious math
> for the algorithms, not to mention to complete the jobs being done.
>
> Knowing math is the real key to unlocking to potential of the power of
> computational mathmatics.

If you're doing that sort of mathematics *inside the kernel*, there's probably 
something
wrong with your overall design.

Just sayin'.


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Re: Do I need strong mathematical bases to work in the memory subsystem?

2019-10-02 Thread Ruben Safir
On 9/30/19 1:06 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 17:48:43 -0500, CRISTIAN ANDRES VARGAS GONZALEZ said:
> 
>> Hello good morning, to be developed from the kernel do I need to have good
>> math bases? I want to help in the ram memory subsystem and I have that
>> doubt thank you.
> Depends what you mean by "strong math basics".  You'll *definitely* need to
> understand decimal/hexadecimal/binary/octal and how to convert between
> them. Understanding algebra is useful.
> 
> If you've had some intro to complexity theory so you understand why an O(N^2)
> algorithm is usually worse than one that's O(N log N), that helps. Also,
> knowing enough computing theory to understand what a finite state machine is,
> and why to use one, and how to write code to implement one, is useful.
> 
> You *probably* don't need calculus or deep number theory or a lot of other
> pure math.


I've heard this for years and when I went back for my PhD and Masters
degree in comp sci, I found out, low and behold, this is just not true.

If you hope to do anything that is not elementry, you need serious math
for the algorithms, not to mention to complete the jobs being done.

Knowing math is the real key to unlocking to potential of the power of
computational mathmatics.


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