Re: Doubt in USB Drivers

2014-09-28 Thread Jason Conklin
Little will remove you from the challenge if you ask questions in
public. If this hasn't already happened... keep reading, take your
time, and figure it out yourself! Good luck.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, me storage me.storage...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes it is a task in Eudyptula Challenge,

 I read the chapter which little mentioned ,after searching on  google i
 found some solutions but i don't want to copy those solutions i want to
 solve my self .So that's why i asked for resources not any solution ? Please
 try to understand .
 Thanks to all


 On 28 September 2014 19:27, Sudip Mukherjee sudipm.mukher...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Sep 28, 2014 4:28 PM, me storage me.storage...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi to all
  I am new to Linux Kernel Programming .I want to develop usb drivers so i
  read LDD3 Chapter 14. i didn't find /sbin/hotplug in Ubuntu 12.04.And my
  doubt is how kernel handles the usb devices i.e who detects usb events 
  ,then
  who fires hotplug script to run ,where kernel searches corresponding module
  ,who loads the modules etc...

 is it related to the task of Eudyptula Challenge??

 looks like 

  Any resources are helpful to me
  Thanks to all
 
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Re: Issues with Community

2014-09-17 Thread Jason Conklin
First of all, if you missed my email on this topic (sent a few weeks ago),
please go read or reread it.[1] Things were relatively quiet on this
front until this week.

This is all my opinion (and I carry no clout here), but if you are
frustrated or annoyed by Nick's emails, the best thing you can do for him
and for this list is just to ignore them.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't think anyone is ~obligated~ to
review or respond to every patch, or think about every question raised --
and frankly, all this exasperation about Nick creates a lot more noise in
my inbox than the questions and patches themselves. And as a newbie myself,
I've actually learned a thing or two from it all.

I commend those of you who have continued to respond patiently to Nick, as
well as those who haven't banned him. I don't know that there is an ideal
short-term solution here, but I do notice that his input has changed
gradually over the past few months; I suspect that could continue.

Perhaps continued repetition of the idea that he set aside patch submission
as a goal and use bug reports as a way to explore and better understand the
kernel.

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On Sep 17, 2014 3:00 PM, Sudip Mukherjee sudipm.mukher...@gmail.com
wrote:

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  Sure I will look into linux-next issues later today.
  Nick
 
 you mean to say you have not yet seen linux-next?? but i remember seeing
 mails from you regarding git and linux-next..
 so this is another example of ignoring advices given to you.

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Re: Help with btrfs project

2014-08-20 Thread Jason Conklin
Guys, stop it. Nick has told us he has Asperger syndrome; as such, he
is not likely to understand facetious or flippant remarks for what
they are. The time you've spent responding to Nick's emails would be
much better used reading a little about autism spectrum disorders
[1,2] and the kinds of difficulty and confusion they cause in more
normal (neurotypical) contexts, for both AS people and the people
they interact with. Otherwise, just move on.

I am not a psychologist or an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but
I know enough to recognize that his behavior on this and other lists
is consistent with several aspects of those disorders. The sad thing
is that he's getting treated as a malicious troll or a fool, when it's
pretty clear (to me, anyway) that he's fascinated by the kernel and
just trying to learn as well as he knows how.

Without going into autism spectrum intricacies or speculating on
Nick's particular traits, I'll note that Aspergers is characterized
by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal
communication (from Wikipedia) -- which we have seen repeatedly in
Nick's frequently inappropriate and unresearched questions and
misunderstanding/misuse of the good advice he has received.

The resulting frustration is understandable. I acknowledge that the
format of this and especially the working kernel lists is simply not
equipped to handle Nick's sort of engagement. The best practice, if
you're frustrated by Nick's emails, is probably to follow the protocol
for feeding trolls -- ie, don't -- even though his motivations are
different from what I'd consider a real troll's. You simply cannot
expect him to respond (neuro)typically to your input.

I don't intend to discuss this here anymore, but I really hope the
above can provide a little context to help the community make more
fruitful decisions in response to Nick's questions, or at least temper
your frustrations.

Jason Conklin


[1] http://bit.ly/1odpfrd (Wikipedia: Autism spectrum)

[2] http://bit.ly/1rmgrHg (Wikipedia: Asperger syndrome)

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