Re: Checkpatch Patches
Nick, Use this guide: http://kernelnewbies.org/OPWfirstpatch It's a tutorial that shows you how to setup and send patches. And memorize these references: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/SubmitChecklist http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/development-process/ Lidza On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Carlo Caione ca...@caione.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Nick Krause xerofo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:19 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:44:27 -0400, nick said: I am attaching two check patch patches I wrote in the last few days as I am unable to get a reply from the maintainers. Would someone please send them off for me. I am attaching. Fail 3 words in. That's why you aren't getting a reply from the maintainers. They don't bother reading patches they know will probably *never* be correct. And yes, at least one of the two patches is incorrect. Thanks for the Help, I really do appreciate it and I do understand how much I have screwed up. My concern now is now to make it right. You don't make it right by posting more wrong patches. Now do us all a favor and *stop* being either an idiot, or a troll, or whatever your problem is. We have *zero* desire to see *any* more patches from somebody who is either unable or unwilling to post a *single* correct patch after *two months* of trying. So please do us a favor and go piss off some other open source project. THE KERNEL DOES NOT WANT YOUR BULLSHIT. I am going to attach it again and I understand Valdis. I am going to talk to Sudip about reading and checking my patches first. Rik, probably it's time to ban Nick also from this ml. -- Carlo Caione ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: Help with btrfs project
I agree with Jason. I do want Nick to learn the kernel (anyone who wants to learn should be able to and we're always looking for new developers) but most of us don't have the time or training to be able to help him. Learning via email seems to be a very bad medium for him to get a kernel education. Emails already take away the human element from communicating (tone of voice, facial expressions, etc), and on top of that he has this disorder. I really believe that if he finds someone to act as a middle man between him and the kernel making sure that he understands our emails (to the best of his ability), will help tremendously. I'm sure he's smart enough and earnest, but his Asperger's is making this very difficult for everyone. Hopefully once a system that works for him is set in place, he can tell us what is working for him and the kernel could learn how to better interact with people with communication disorders and others with Autism. Lidza On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Mandeep Sandhu mandeepsandhu@gmail.com wrote: Agree with Jason here. If you don't find his questions palatable, just _ignore_ them instead of sending rants and sarcastic emails which just wastes more of your own time. That way the SNR of this list will improve! :) On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jason Conklin jason.conk...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, stop it. Nick has told us he has Asperger syndrome; as such, he is not likely to understand facetious or flippant remarks for what they are. The time you've spent responding to Nick's emails would be much better used reading a little about autism spectrum disorders [1,2] and the kinds of difficulty and confusion they cause in more normal (neurotypical) contexts, for both AS people and the people they interact with. Otherwise, just move on. I am not a psychologist or an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but I know enough to recognize that his behavior on this and other lists is consistent with several aspects of those disorders. The sad thing is that he's getting treated as a malicious troll or a fool, when it's pretty clear (to me, anyway) that he's fascinated by the kernel and just trying to learn as well as he knows how. Without going into autism spectrum intricacies or speculating on Nick's particular traits, I'll note that Aspergers is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication (from Wikipedia) -- which we have seen repeatedly in Nick's frequently inappropriate and unresearched questions and misunderstanding/misuse of the good advice he has received. The resulting frustration is understandable. I acknowledge that the format of this and especially the working kernel lists is simply not equipped to handle Nick's sort of engagement. The best practice, if you're frustrated by Nick's emails, is probably to follow the protocol for feeding trolls -- ie, don't -- even though his motivations are different from what I'd consider a real troll's. You simply cannot expect him to respond (neuro)typically to your input. I don't intend to discuss this here anymore, but I really hope the above can provide a little context to help the community make more fruitful decisions in response to Nick's questions, or at least temper your frustrations. Jason Conklin [1] http://bit.ly/1odpfrd (Wikipedia: Autism spectrum) [2] http://bit.ly/1rmgrHg (Wikipedia: Asperger syndrome) ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: Formula One Scheduler (was Re: Help with git)
Nick, if you get accepted in a program like google summer of code, you will get a mentor (that's how I got started). I don't know the odds of that happening because you don't have a good reputation in the kernel. Look for a program like gsoc and apply. Another option is looking for someone in real life to mentor you. Lidza On Aug 9, 2014 1:23 AM, Sudip Mukherjee sudipm.mukher...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Nick Krause xerofo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Arlie Stephens ar...@worldash.org wrote: On Aug 08 2014, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: There's a big difference between knowing how to change the spark plugs on a VW Beetle, and being able to walk into a Formula One pit and make tuning suggestions that actually help the performance. And yes, there's *that* big a gap between the usual beginner programmer and some parts of the kernel. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that there are more people in this world that really understand Formula One engines than people who really understand the Linux scheduler. :) Now that's depressing. -- Arlie (Arlie Stephens ar...@worldash.org) ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies That is kind of depressing. Is there any maintainers who want to mentor me with the scheduler and other areas of interest. I am willing to listen , I will just like a mentor to help me out :). Nick Why will anyone want to waste their time to mentor you??? And you are asking the maintainers to adjust their busy schedule just to mentor you ?? why ? who are you ?? Please dont bug this list with your requests to mentor you or with such questions , answers to which can be easily found on google . ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers
Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real life, have them to look at the emails and talk to them about it. Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can explain these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are making things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed. Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because none of the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you. Lidza On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, Nick Krause xerofo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said: oh man you have gained prominence in vger? They have banned you from vger. Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach that? *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off and wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly* turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help playground means that he needs to be shown the door. i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if this is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos. people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who would desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start submitting patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen and follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become useful contributors. nick is not. it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, ok, but what should i be doing? if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline. nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Robert, I am trying to listen now and this was my fault. Regards Nick ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers
I still highly recommend that you talk to someone. Lidza On Aug 6, 2014 2:33 PM, Nick Krause xerofo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Lidza Louina lidza.lou...@gmail.com wrote: Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real life, have them to look at the emails and talk to them about it. Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can explain these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are making things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed. Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because none of the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you. Lidza On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, Nick Krause xerofo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said: oh man you have gained prominence in vger? They have banned you from vger. Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach that? *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off and wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly* turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help playground means that he needs to be shown the door. i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if this is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos. people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who would desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start submitting patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen and follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become useful contributors. nick is not. it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, ok, but what should i be doing? if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline. nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Robert, I am trying to listen now and this was my fault. Regards Nick ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies Lidza, I am fine here. I didn't listen and that is the key issue if people don't want to give me a second change that's fine. Cheers Nick ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: postgresql/libpq-fe.h
This problem doesn't have anything to do with the linux kernel. This is a problem you should first try googling about, then talk to the postgres developers about if that doesn't help. On Dec 16, 2013 8:54 AM, Robert Clove cloverob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am getting this error error: postgresql/libpq-fe.h: No such file or directory i have done yum install postgresql-devel then also i am getting this error please guide. thanks ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Re: kernel customisation issue
Hi, Why do you want to disable module support? You can load and unload modules at runtime if needed. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/loading-and-unloading-modules-in-linux/ Lidza On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Laxmi Meena laxmic...@gmail.com wrote: how to compile kernel without module support? When I try disabling the Enable Loadable module support option and rebuild the kernel. I get following error Enable kernel module support and then compile the kernel Thanks in advance. -Laxmi ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ___ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
