RE: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

2012-05-03 Thread Panagiotis Sakkos
Hi all,

Just FYI, I set the MSG_DONTWAIT flag at my logging socket and now instead of 
crash I get failure of sending the message (which is much better than 
crashing...)

Thanks,
Panos
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Hi Mulyadi!

I can't see your point, how can I have a race condition while I am atomic?

Thanks for your response,
Panos

From: Mulyadi Santosa [mulyadi.sant...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 May 2012 19:55
To: Panagiotis Sakkos
Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
Subject: Re: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

Hi :)

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Panagiotis Sakkos  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to log information from within the kernel with the use of a unix
> socket (/dev/log).
> My code is a kprobe handler, so while executing I am atomic and
> uninterrupted.
> The crashes begin when I do stress tests against my module, so i.e. more
> than 50 logs per second.
>

Maybe that's the problem..under "rapid" call, kprobe handler must
allocate stack for unwinding the call more and more. Not to mention
that it began to push reentrancy problem to the surface.

Regarding reentrancy, IMO think like this...your handler called
once...ok fine, twice, perhaps still fine...but maybe more than 50 per
sec, not to mention the possibility that they are executed by more
than 1 core at once, perhaps that's the problem. race condition




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RE: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

2012-05-03 Thread Panagiotis Sakkos
Hi Mulyadi!

I can't see your point, how can I have a race condition while I am atomic?

Thanks for your response,
Panos

From: Mulyadi Santosa [mulyadi.sant...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 May 2012 19:55
To: Panagiotis Sakkos
Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
Subject: Re: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

Hi :)

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Panagiotis Sakkos  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to log information from within the kernel with the use of a unix
> socket (/dev/log).
> My code is a kprobe handler, so while executing I am atomic and
> uninterrupted.
> The crashes begin when I do stress tests against my module, so i.e. more
> than 50 logs per second.
>

Maybe that's the problem..under "rapid" call, kprobe handler must
allocate stack for unwinding the call more and more. Not to mention
that it began to push reentrancy problem to the surface.

Regarding reentrancy, IMO think like this...your handler called
once...ok fine, twice, perhaps still fine...but maybe more than 50 per
sec, not to mention the possibility that they are executed by more
than 1 core at once, perhaps that's the problem. race condition




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Re: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

2012-05-02 Thread Panagiotis Sakkos
Hi Pranay,

This code logs the messages without problem if I don't stress it, so I suppose 
you can.
If you want I will commit tomorrow my changes on github and I will send you the 
url to have a look.

Cheers,
Panos

On May 2, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Pranay Kumar Srivastava wrote:

> You mentioned your code is atomic. Are you certain that you can do a 
> sock_sendmsg from a non process context? I believe you can't do that from a 
> non process context cuz sock_sendmsg-->udp_sendmsg for DGRAM and i think that 
> assumes you are in process context.
> 
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> Subject: please report distros with CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG, using
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> hi all,
> 
> Ive been asked whether ddebug_query= boot param is used in any distros,
> I think the question seeks to determine a good deprecation schedule for it
> (its been obsoleted by dyndbg= in driver-core-next)
> 
> Would you all be so kind as to check your favorite distros, and report
> the ones that
> have one or both ?
> 
> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS lacks it:
> 
> jimc@chumly:~/projects/lx/linux-2.6$ grep DYNAMIC_DEBUG /boot/config*
> /boot/config-3.0.0-17-generic:# CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG is not set
> /boot/config-3.2.0-24-generic:# CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG is not set
> 
> Voyage linux also lacks it, (also debian based)
> 
> 
> Fedora-16 has config option:
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux groucho.jimc.earth 3.3.2-6.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Apr 21
> 12:43:20 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> $ grep DYNAMIC_DEBUG /boot/config-3.3.*
> /boot/config-3.3.1-5.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y
> /boot/config-3.3.2-1.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y
> /boot/config-3.3.2-6.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y
> 
> but its not used by default. I have modified my grub defaults:
> 
> $ grep ddebug_query /etc/default/grub
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='quiet rhgb loglevel=8 ddebug_query="module params
> +p" dynamic_debug.verbose=1 nouveau.dyndbg nouveau.force_post=1
> it87.dyndbg=+p nouveau.perflvl_wr='
> 
> FYI, the above usage will eventually be unsupported,
> it can be replaced in driver-core-next by either of:
> 
>  dyndbg="module params +p"
>  params.dyndbg=+p
>  params.dyndbg  # defaults to +p
> 
> the 2nd, 3rd forms also work for loadable modules (though params isnt
> one of them)
> 
> 
> thanks in advance
> Jim
> 
> 
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> Hi!
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> On 09:29 Tue 01 May , Bill Traynor wrote:
>> I have an Editor account for the kernelnewbies.org wiki, but all pages
>> are currently immutable.  Was the wiki made read-only at some point?
> 
> You must be on http://kernelnewbies.org/EditorsGroup to make changes. This
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RE: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

2012-05-02 Thread Pranay Kumar Srivastava
You mentioned your code is atomic. Are you certain that you can do a 
sock_sendmsg from a non process context? I believe you can't do that from a non 
process context cuz sock_sendmsg-->udp_sendmsg for DGRAM and i think that 
assumes you are in process context.


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Today's Topics:

   1. please report distros with CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG, using
  ddebug_query= boot param (Jim Cromie)
   2. Re: immutable wiki? (mic...@michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com)
   3. Re: immutable wiki? (Bill Traynor)
   4. Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket
  (Panagiotis Sakkos)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:36:04 -0600
From: Jim Cromie 
Subject: please report distros with CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG, using
ddebug_query=   boot param
To: kernelnewbies 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

hi all,

Ive been asked whether ddebug_query= boot param is used in any distros,
I think the question seeks to determine a good deprecation schedule for it
(its been obsoleted by dyndbg= in driver-core-next)

Would you all be so kind as to check your favorite distros, and report
the ones that
have one or both ?

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS lacks it:

jimc@chumly:~/projects/lx/linux-2.6$ grep DYNAMIC_DEBUG /boot/config*
/boot/config-3.0.0-17-generic:# CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG is not set
/boot/config-3.2.0-24-generic:# CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG is not set

Voyage linux also lacks it, (also debian based)


Fedora-16 has config option:

$ uname -a
Linux groucho.jimc.earth 3.3.2-6.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Apr 21
12:43:20 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ grep DYNAMIC_DEBUG /boot/config-3.3.*
/boot/config-3.3.1-5.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y
/boot/config-3.3.2-1.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y
/boot/config-3.3.2-6.fc16.x86_64:CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y

but its not used by default. I have modified my grub defaults:

$ grep ddebug_query /etc/default/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='quiet rhgb loglevel=8 ddebug_query="module params
+p" dynamic_debug.verbose=1 nouveau.dyndbg nouveau.force_post=1
it87.dyndbg=+p nouveau.perflvl_wr='

FYI, the above usage will eventually be unsupported,
it can be replaced in driver-core-next by either of:

  dyndbg="module params +p"
  params.dyndbg=+p
  params.dyndbg  # defaults to +p

the 2nd, 3rd forms also work for loadable modules (though params isnt
one of them)


thanks in advance
Jim



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Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:52:38 +0200
From: mic...@michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com
Subject: Re: immutable wiki?
To: Bill Traynor 
Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
Message-ID: <20120502105237.GA2229@grml>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi!

On 09:29 Tue 01 May , Bill Traynor wrote:
> I have an Editor account for the kernelnewbies.org wiki, but all pages
> are currently immutable.  Was the wiki made read-only at some point?

You must be on http://kernelnewbies.org/EditorsGroup to make changes. This
was made for spam procection. Everybody who is on the list can add you. What
is your username in the wiki?

-Michi
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:06:36 -0400
From: Bill Traynor 
Subject: Re: immutable wiki?
To: mic...@michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com
Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM,
 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 09:29 Tue 01 May ? ? , Bill Traynor wrote:
>> I have an Editor account for the kernelnewbies.org wiki, but all pages
>> are currently immutable. ?Was the wiki made read-only at some point?
>
> You must be on http://kernelnewbies.org/EditorsGroup to make changes. This
> was made for spam procection. Everybody who is on the list can add you. What
> is your username in the wiki?

Thanks Michael, Rik already fixed it for me.

>
> ? ? ? ?-Michi
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> see http://michaelblize

Re: Crash when sending a lot of messages through a unix socket

2012-05-02 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
Hi :)

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Panagiotis Sakkos  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to log information from within the kernel with the use of a unix
> socket (/dev/log).
> My code is a kprobe handler, so while executing I am atomic and
> uninterrupted.
> The crashes begin when I do stress tests against my module, so i.e. more
> than 50 logs per second.
>

Maybe that's the problem..under "rapid" call, kprobe handler must
allocate stack for unwinding the call more and more. Not to mention
that it began to push reentrancy problem to the surface.

Regarding reentrancy, IMO think like this...your handler called
once...ok fine, twice, perhaps still fine...but maybe more than 50 per
sec, not to mention the possibility that they are executed by more
than 1 core at once, perhaps that's the problem. race condition




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