Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Fabrizio Tappero]

Thank you for point it out.

I am on it.

cheers
Fabrizio


On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
wrote:

> I second this.  The biggest offender that I can see is the new library
> viewer icon.  There are also a few images with a while border around
> them as well and the don't look very good with your typical grey toolbar
> color.
>
> On 6/5/2017 8:09 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> > I see some buggy icons, they contain a white background which makes
> > them look funky. Could you please fix those?  See attached.
> >
> > 2017-05-30 17:17 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero  >:
> >> here you go.
> >>
> >> Fabrizio
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Nick Østergaard 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't see any patches attached.
> >>>
> >>> 2017-05-30 14:54 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero <
> fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com>:
>  Hello Wayne,
>  In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a
> global
>  simplification of approx 30 icons.
>  I have also corrected some menu labels.
> 
>  Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
>  English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting
> it.
>  A
>  not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
> 
>  I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
>  menu
>  tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or
> tooltip
>  is
>  about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to
>  fix
>  it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
> 
>  I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
>  try
>  work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it
>  needs
>  to be more consistent.
> 
>  I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
>  immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
>  simplification
>  of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin
>  simplifing
>  the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
> 
>  Here below a detailed description of the changes.
> 
>  Cheers
>  Fabrizio
> 
> 
>  ### Deleted the following icons(deleted: svg, cpp and png):
>  edit_component
>  edit_part
>  move_text
>  rotate_field
>  rotate_glabel
>  rotate_module_cw
>  rotate_module_ccw
>  rotate_pin
>  rotatehlabel
>  many_good_icons
>  dismiss
>  move_track
>  move_track_segment
>  library2
>  copy_button
>  copyblock
>  edit_sheet
>  icon_text
>  pagelayout_new
>  sch_new
>  rescue_pcbnew
>  schematic
>  pagelayout_load_default
>  gerbview_open_recent_ziparchive_files
>  gerbview_open_recent_drill_files
>  gerber_recent_files
>  pagelayout_recent
>  revert_pcbnew
> 
>  ### Lightly modified icons:
>  bom
>  autoplace_fields
>  flip_board
>  duplicate_module
>  delete
>  new_sch
>  new_pcb
>  new_component
>  general_deletions
>  reload
>  pagelayout_load
>  add_line
>  add_entry
>  add_tracks
>  add_tracks_and_vias
>  about
>  array_module
>  image
>  noconn
>  add_dashed_line.svg
>  add_bus.svg
>  scheamatic
>  resize_sheet
>  eeschema
>  netlist
>  pagelayout_load_default
>  datasheet
>  svg_file
>  pagelayout_normal_view_mode
>  pagelayout_special_view_mode
>  unknow
>  export
>  import
>  pcb_update
>  pcbnew
>  editor
>  edit
>  directory
>  browse_files
>  icon_gerbview_small
>  post_drill
> 
> 
> 
>  ### created few new icons that replace few icons used inproperly
>  (created
>  svg, cpp, png):
>  exchange
>  icon
>  drag
>  rescue
>  path
>  copy
>  new_generic
>  recent
>  pcbcalculator
> 
>  ### Corrected some label content. It is important here to be rigorus
>  about
>  it. Inkscape could
>  be a good tool that can be used as reference:
>  eescheam rightclick menu
>  cvpcb rightclick menu
>  pcbnew rightclick menu
>  libedit rightclick menu
>  icon tooltips
>  gerber and drill file menu
>  main kicad hotkey icon menu
>  fixes several tooltip phrases like "Opens a new schematic" into "Open
>  new
>  schematic sheet"
>  few more menues and sub menus here and there (see git log for
> details).
> 
>  Beside makes many icons more effective, this massive patch is trying
> to
>  rise the quality of the kicad UI. Few examples are:
>  write all words in a menu  with capital letter. Tooltip sentence
> should
>  start with capital letter.
>  do not end a menu item is with a dot "."

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Wayne Stambaugh]

I second this.  The biggest offender that I can see is the new library
viewer icon.  There are also a few images with a while border around
them as well and the don't look very good with your typical grey toolbar
color.

On 6/5/2017 8:09 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
> I see some buggy icons, they contain a white background which makes
> them look funky. Could you please fix those?  See attached.
> 
> 2017-05-30 17:17 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero :
>> here you go.
>>
>> Fabrizio
>>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Nick Østergaard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't see any patches attached.
>>>
>>> 2017-05-30 14:54 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero :
 Hello Wayne,
 In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
 simplification of approx 30 icons.
 I have also corrected some menu labels.

 Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
 English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it.
 A
 not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.

 I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
 menu
 tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip
 is
 about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to
 fix
 it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.

 I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
 try
 work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it
 needs
 to be more consistent.

 I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
 immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
 simplification
 of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin
 simplifing
 the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.

 Here below a detailed description of the changes.

 Cheers
 Fabrizio


 ### Deleted the following icons(deleted: svg, cpp and png):
 edit_component
 edit_part
 move_text
 rotate_field
 rotate_glabel
 rotate_module_cw
 rotate_module_ccw
 rotate_pin
 rotatehlabel
 many_good_icons
 dismiss
 move_track
 move_track_segment
 library2
 copy_button
 copyblock
 edit_sheet
 icon_text
 pagelayout_new
 sch_new
 rescue_pcbnew
 schematic
 pagelayout_load_default
 gerbview_open_recent_ziparchive_files
 gerbview_open_recent_drill_files
 gerber_recent_files
 pagelayout_recent
 revert_pcbnew

 ### Lightly modified icons:
 bom
 autoplace_fields
 flip_board
 duplicate_module
 delete
 new_sch
 new_pcb
 new_component
 general_deletions
 reload
 pagelayout_load
 add_line
 add_entry
 add_tracks
 add_tracks_and_vias
 about
 array_module
 image
 noconn
 add_dashed_line.svg
 add_bus.svg
 scheamatic
 resize_sheet
 eeschema
 netlist
 pagelayout_load_default
 datasheet
 svg_file
 pagelayout_normal_view_mode
 pagelayout_special_view_mode
 unknow
 export
 import
 pcb_update
 pcbnew
 editor
 edit
 directory
 browse_files
 icon_gerbview_small
 post_drill



 ### created few new icons that replace few icons used inproperly
 (created
 svg, cpp, png):
 exchange
 icon
 drag
 rescue
 path
 copy
 new_generic
 recent
 pcbcalculator

 ### Corrected some label content. It is important here to be rigorus
 about
 it. Inkscape could
 be a good tool that can be used as reference:
 eescheam rightclick menu
 cvpcb rightclick menu
 pcbnew rightclick menu
 libedit rightclick menu
 icon tooltips
 gerber and drill file menu
 main kicad hotkey icon menu
 fixes several tooltip phrases like "Opens a new schematic" into "Open
 new
 schematic sheet"
 few more menues and sub menus here and there (see git log for details).

 Beside makes many icons more effective, this massive patch is trying to
 rise the quality of the kicad UI. Few examples are:
 write all words in a menu  with capital letter. Tooltip sentence should
 start with capital letter.
 do not end a menu item is with a dot "."
 do not use "the" or "a" when possible for both tooltip and menu item
 use consistent and meaninguful text. "Set Language" is better than
 "Language".
 "Set grid origin" is better than "Set origin point for the grid"
 limit use of "..." (this is a debatable issue)
 etc.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Nick Østergaard]

I see some buggy icons, they contain a white background which makes
them look funky. Could you please fix those?  See attached.

2017-05-30 17:17 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero :
> here you go.
>
> Fabrizio
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Nick Østergaard  wrote:
>>
>> I don't see any patches attached.
>>
>> 2017-05-30 14:54 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero :
>> > Hello Wayne,
>> > In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
>> > simplification of approx 30 icons.
>> > I have also corrected some menu labels.
>> >
>> > Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
>> > English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it.
>> > A
>> > not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
>> >
>> > I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
>> > menu
>> > tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip
>> > is
>> > about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to
>> > fix
>> > it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
>> >
>> > I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
>> > try
>> > work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it
>> > needs
>> > to be more consistent.
>> >
>> > I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
>> > immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
>> > simplification
>> > of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin
>> > simplifing
>> > the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
>> >
>> > Here below a detailed description of the changes.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Fabrizio
>> >
>> >
>> > ### Deleted the following icons(deleted: svg, cpp and png):
>> > edit_component
>> > edit_part
>> > move_text
>> > rotate_field
>> > rotate_glabel
>> > rotate_module_cw
>> > rotate_module_ccw
>> > rotate_pin
>> > rotatehlabel
>> > many_good_icons
>> > dismiss
>> > move_track
>> > move_track_segment
>> > library2
>> > copy_button
>> > copyblock
>> > edit_sheet
>> > icon_text
>> > pagelayout_new
>> > sch_new
>> > rescue_pcbnew
>> > schematic
>> > pagelayout_load_default
>> > gerbview_open_recent_ziparchive_files
>> > gerbview_open_recent_drill_files
>> > gerber_recent_files
>> > pagelayout_recent
>> > revert_pcbnew
>> >
>> > ### Lightly modified icons:
>> > bom
>> > autoplace_fields
>> > flip_board
>> > duplicate_module
>> > delete
>> > new_sch
>> > new_pcb
>> > new_component
>> > general_deletions
>> > reload
>> > pagelayout_load
>> > add_line
>> > add_entry
>> > add_tracks
>> > add_tracks_and_vias
>> > about
>> > array_module
>> > image
>> > noconn
>> > add_dashed_line.svg
>> > add_bus.svg
>> > scheamatic
>> > resize_sheet
>> > eeschema
>> > netlist
>> > pagelayout_load_default
>> > datasheet
>> > svg_file
>> > pagelayout_normal_view_mode
>> > pagelayout_special_view_mode
>> > unknow
>> > export
>> > import
>> > pcb_update
>> > pcbnew
>> > editor
>> > edit
>> > directory
>> > browse_files
>> > icon_gerbview_small
>> > post_drill
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ### created few new icons that replace few icons used inproperly
>> > (created
>> > svg, cpp, png):
>> > exchange
>> > icon
>> > drag
>> > rescue
>> > path
>> > copy
>> > new_generic
>> > recent
>> > pcbcalculator
>> >
>> > ### Corrected some label content. It is important here to be rigorus
>> > about
>> > it. Inkscape could
>> > be a good tool that can be used as reference:
>> > eescheam rightclick menu
>> > cvpcb rightclick menu
>> > pcbnew rightclick menu
>> > libedit rightclick menu
>> > icon tooltips
>> > gerber and drill file menu
>> > main kicad hotkey icon menu
>> > fixes several tooltip phrases like "Opens a new schematic" into "Open
>> > new
>> > schematic sheet"
>> > few more menues and sub menus here and there (see git log for details).
>> >
>> > Beside makes many icons more effective, this massive patch is trying to
>> > rise the quality of the kicad UI. Few examples are:
>> > write all words in a menu  with capital letter. Tooltip sentence should
>> > start with capital letter.
>> > do not end a menu item is with a dot "."
>> > do not use "the" or "a" when possible for both tooltip and menu item
>> > use consistent and meaninguful text. "Set Language" is better than
>> > "Language".
>> > "Set grid origin" is better than "Set origin point for the grid"
>> > limit use of "..." (this is a debatable issue)
>> > etc.
>> >
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Thomas Kindler]

Hi José!

On 02.06.2017 17:05, José Ignacio wrote:
> The use of "..." for menu items that show a dialog with extra options
> necessary to perform the operation has been in Microsoft's UX guidelines and
> apple's HIG since time immemorial:
> 
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn742392.aspx#usingellipses
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/TerminologyWording.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/2957-CH15-SW3
>
>  https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.en#ellipses
> 
> It is a very well known and traditional convention and Kicad shouldn't break
> it. As the guidelines say, the ellipsis (...) is reserved for commands that
> need further input from the user to proceed,

Ok! Totally agree until here..

> showing a modal dialog shouldn't be enough to warrant adding the ellipsis
> (though I've seen several programs be ellipsis-happy and put it on everything
> that calls a dialog...)
>

.. but now I can't follow you.

What could be a more severe indicator of "needing further input" than showing a
/modal/ dialog box?

This is exactly what ellipses are about. They say "Click me, and I will force
you into modal interaction".

Modal interactions should be kept to a minimum.. most of the dialogs that KiCad
shows could be replaced by dockable object inspector windows (Which I think is
already on the roadmap for Version 6). Until then, ellipses should be used.

best regards,
Thomas

> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero  > wrote:
> 
> Hi JP,
> 
> thanks a lot!!
> 
> I am a little unsure about this "Save as..." three dots thing used every time
> the menu item takes you to a second window. but I will investigate about UI
> stuff a little.
> 
> cheers Fabrizio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:44 PM, jp charras  > wrote:
> 
> Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit :
>> Hello Wayne, In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons
>> and a global simplification of approx 30 icons. I have also corrected some
>> menu labels.
>> 
>> Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to 
>> English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A 
>> not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
>> 
>> I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
>> menu tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or
>> tooltip is about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I
>> tried to fix it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is
>> important.
>> 
>> I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will try 
>> work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs 
>> to be more consistent.
>> 
>> I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more 
>> immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
>> simplification of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we
>> begin simplifing the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too
>> large.
>> 
>> Here below a detailed description of the changes.
>> 
>> Cheers Fabrizio
> 
> 
> Hi Fabrizio,
> 
> I committed your icons. Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
> 
> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Fabrizio Tappero]

cheers Jose,
I will look into it and submit all necessary fix next week.

cheers
Fabrizio


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 5:05 PM, José Ignacio  wrote:

> The use of "..." for menu items that show a dialog with extra options
> necessary to perform the operation has been in Microsoft's UX guidelines
> and apple's HIG since time immemorial:
>
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn742392.aspx#usingellipses
>
> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/
> UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/TerminologyWording.html#//
> apple_ref/doc/uid/2957-CH15-SW3
>
> https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.en#ellipses
>
> It is a very well known and traditional convention and Kicad shouldn't
> break it. As the guidelines say, the ellipsis (...) is reserved for
> commands that need further input from the user to proceed, showing a modal
> dialog shouldn't be enough to warrant adding the ellipsis (though I've seen
> several programs be ellipsis-happy and put it on everything that calls a
> dialog...)
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero <
> fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi JP,
>>
>> thanks a lot!!
>>
>> I am a little unsure about this "Save as..." three dots thing used every
>> time the menu item takes you to a second window. but I will investigate
>> about UI stuff a little.
>>
>> cheers
>> Fabrizio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:44 PM, jp charras 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit :
>>> > Hello Wayne,
>>> > In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a
>>> global
>>> > simplification of approx 30 icons.
>>> > I have also corrected some menu labels.
>>> >
>>> > Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
>>> > English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting
>>> it. A
>>> > not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
>>> >
>>> > I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
>>> menu
>>> > tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or
>>> tooltip is
>>> > about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to
>>> fix
>>> > it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
>>> >
>>> > I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
>>> try
>>> > work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it
>>> needs
>>> > to be more consistent.
>>> >
>>> > I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
>>> > immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
>>> simplification
>>> > of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin
>>> simplifing
>>> > the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
>>> >
>>> > Here below a detailed description of the changes.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Fabrizio
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Fabrizio,
>>>
>>> I committed your icons.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[José Ignacio]

The use of "..." for menu items that show a dialog with extra options
necessary to perform the operation has been in Microsoft's UX guidelines
and apple's HIG since time immemorial:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn742392.aspx#usingellipses

https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/TerminologyWording.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/2957-CH15-SW3

https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.en#ellipses

It is a very well known and traditional convention and Kicad shouldn't
break it. As the guidelines say, the ellipsis (...) is reserved for
commands that need further input from the user to proceed, showing a modal
dialog shouldn't be enough to warrant adding the ellipsis (though I've seen
several programs be ellipsis-happy and put it on everything that calls a
dialog...)

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero  wrote:

> Hi JP,
>
> thanks a lot!!
>
> I am a little unsure about this "Save as..." three dots thing used every
> time the menu item takes you to a second window. but I will investigate
> about UI stuff a little.
>
> cheers
> Fabrizio
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:44 PM, jp charras  wrote:
>
>> Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit :
>> > Hello Wayne,
>> > In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
>> > simplification of approx 30 icons.
>> > I have also corrected some menu labels.
>> >
>> > Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
>> > English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it.
>> A
>> > not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
>> >
>> > I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
>> menu
>> > tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or
>> tooltip is
>> > about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to
>> fix
>> > it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
>> >
>> > I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
>> try
>> > work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it
>> needs
>> > to be more consistent.
>> >
>> > I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
>> > immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
>> simplification
>> > of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin
>> simplifing
>> > the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
>> >
>> > Here below a detailed description of the changes.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Fabrizio
>>
>>
>> Hi Fabrizio,
>>
>> I committed your icons.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Fabrizio Tappero]

Hi JP,

thanks a lot!!

I am a little unsure about this "Save as..." three dots thing used every
time the menu item takes you to a second window. but I will investigate
about UI stuff a little.

cheers
Fabrizio




On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:44 PM, jp charras  wrote:

> Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit :
> > Hello Wayne,
> > In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
> > simplification of approx 30 icons.
> > I have also corrected some menu labels.
> >
> > Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
> > English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A
> > not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
> >
> > I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and
> menu
> > tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip
> is
> > about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to fix
> > it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
> >
> > I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will
> try
> > work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs
> > to be more consistent.
> >
> > I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
> > immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of
> simplification
> > of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin simplifing
> > the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
> >
> > Here below a detailed description of the changes.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Fabrizio
>
>
> Hi Fabrizio,
>
> I committed your icons.
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[jp charras]

Le 30/05/2017 à 14:54, Fabrizio Tappero a écrit :
> Hello Wayne,
> In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
> simplification of approx 30 icons.
> I have also corrected some menu labels.
> 
> Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
> English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A
> not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
> 
> I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and menu
> tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip is
> about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to fix
> it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
> 
> I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will try
> work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs
> to be more consistent.
> 
> I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
> immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of simplification
> of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin simplifing
> the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
> 
> Here below a detailed description of the changes.
> 
> Cheers
> Fabrizio


Hi Fabrizio,

I committed your icons.
Thanks.


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Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Nick Østergaard]

I don't see any patches attached.

2017-05-30 14:54 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tappero :
> Hello Wayne,
> In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
> simplification of approx 30 icons.
> I have also corrected some menu labels.
>
> Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
> English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A
> not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.
>
> I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and menu
> tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip is
> about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to fix
> it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.
>
> I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will try
> work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs
> to be more consistent.
>
> I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
> immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of simplification
> of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin simplifing
> the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.
>
> Here below a detailed description of the changes.
>
> Cheers
> Fabrizio
>
>
> ### Deleted the following icons(deleted: svg, cpp and png):
> edit_component
> edit_part
> move_text
> rotate_field
> rotate_glabel
> rotate_module_cw
> rotate_module_ccw
> rotate_pin
> rotatehlabel
> many_good_icons
> dismiss
> move_track
> move_track_segment
> library2
> copy_button
> copyblock
> edit_sheet
> icon_text
> pagelayout_new
> sch_new
> rescue_pcbnew
> schematic
> pagelayout_load_default
> gerbview_open_recent_ziparchive_files
> gerbview_open_recent_drill_files
> gerber_recent_files
> pagelayout_recent
> revert_pcbnew
>
> ### Lightly modified icons:
> bom
> autoplace_fields
> flip_board
> duplicate_module
> delete
> new_sch
> new_pcb
> new_component
> general_deletions
> reload
> pagelayout_load
> add_line
> add_entry
> add_tracks
> add_tracks_and_vias
> about
> array_module
> image
> noconn
> add_dashed_line.svg
> add_bus.svg
> scheamatic
> resize_sheet
> eeschema
> netlist
> pagelayout_load_default
> datasheet
> svg_file
> pagelayout_normal_view_mode
> pagelayout_special_view_mode
> unknow
> export
> import
> pcb_update
> pcbnew
> editor
> edit
> directory
> browse_files
> icon_gerbview_small
> post_drill
>
>
>
> ### created few new icons that replace few icons used inproperly (created
> svg, cpp, png):
> exchange
> icon
> drag
> rescue
> path
> copy
> new_generic
> recent
> pcbcalculator
>
> ### Corrected some label content. It is important here to be rigorus about
> it. Inkscape could
> be a good tool that can be used as reference:
> eescheam rightclick menu
> cvpcb rightclick menu
> pcbnew rightclick menu
> libedit rightclick menu
> icon tooltips
> gerber and drill file menu
> main kicad hotkey icon menu
> fixes several tooltip phrases like "Opens a new schematic" into "Open new
> schematic sheet"
> few more menues and sub menus here and there (see git log for details).
>
> Beside makes many icons more effective, this massive patch is trying to
> rise the quality of the kicad UI. Few examples are:
> write all words in a menu  with capital letter. Tooltip sentence should
> start with capital letter.
> do not end a menu item is with a dot "."
> do not use "the" or "a" when possible for both tooltip and menu item
> use consistent and meaninguful text. "Set Language" is better than
> "Language".
> "Set grid origin" is better than "Set origin point for the grid"
> limit use of "..." (this is a debatable issue)
> etc.
>
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[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] kicad right click menu corrections and few icons corrections

[Fabrizio Tappero]

Hello Wayne,
In attachment you can find a good review of approx 30 icons and a global
simplification of approx 30 icons.
I have also corrected some menu labels.

Since there is a lot of corrected text that is very much related to
English, it would be great if you could review it before submitting it. A
not so fun work but I think it will make kicad a much better tool.

I think it would be recommendable to avoid "a" and "the" in button and menu
tooltips. So that it way easier to understand what the button or tooltip is
about. The use of singular plural is also inconsistent and I tried to fix
it. Please Wayne feel free to make any changes you think is important.

I have also notices that several menus are a little inconstant. I will try
work on it since I think the current kicad UI is very usable but it needs
to be more consistent.

I have tried to fixed a lot of icons so that their meaning is more
immediate to understand. I have as well started a process of simplification
of many redundant icons. I think it is important that we begin simplifing
the kicad icon set because at the moment is really too large.

Here below a detailed description of the changes.

Cheers
Fabrizio


### Deleted the following icons(deleted: svg, cpp and png):
edit_component
edit_part
move_text
rotate_field
rotate_glabel
rotate_module_cw
rotate_module_ccw
rotate_pin
rotatehlabel
many_good_icons
dismiss
move_track
move_track_segment
library2
copy_button
copyblock
edit_sheet
icon_text
pagelayout_new
sch_new
rescue_pcbnew
schematic
pagelayout_load_default
gerbview_open_recent_ziparchive_files
gerbview_open_recent_drill_files
gerber_recent_files
pagelayout_recent
revert_pcbnew

### Lightly modified icons:
bom
autoplace_fields
flip_board
duplicate_module
delete
new_sch
new_pcb
new_component
general_deletions
reload
pagelayout_load
add_line
add_entry
add_tracks
add_tracks_and_vias
about
array_module
image
noconn
add_dashed_line.svg
add_bus.svg
scheamatic
resize_sheet
eeschema
netlist
pagelayout_load_default
datasheet
svg_file
pagelayout_normal_view_mode
pagelayout_special_view_mode
unknow
export
import
pcb_update
pcbnew
editor
edit
directory
browse_files
icon_gerbview_small
post_drill



### created few new icons that replace few icons used inproperly (created
svg, cpp, png):
exchange
icon
drag
rescue
path
copy
new_generic
recent
pcbcalculator

### Corrected some label content. It is important here to be rigorus about
it. Inkscape could
be a good tool that can be used as reference:
eescheam rightclick menu
cvpcb rightclick menu
pcbnew rightclick menu
libedit rightclick menu
icon tooltips
gerber and drill file menu
main kicad hotkey icon menu
fixes several tooltip phrases like "Opens a new schematic" into "Open new
schematic sheet"
few more menues and sub menus here and there (see git log for details).

Beside makes many icons more effective, this massive patch is trying to
rise the quality of the kicad UI. Few examples are:
write all words in a menu  with capital letter. Tooltip sentence should
start with capital letter.
do not end a menu item is with a dot "."
do not use "the" or "a" when possible for both tooltip and menu item
use consistent and meaninguful text. "Set Language" is better than
"Language".
"Set grid origin" is better than "Set origin point for the grid"
limit use of "..." (this is a debatable issue)
etc.
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