Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision - document git-bzr bridge!

2014-02-06 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 5 February 2014 22:35, Blair Bonnett blair.bonn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6 February 2014 10:31, Jake j...@spaz.org wrote:

 On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, Brian Sidebotham wrote:

 On 5 February 2014 10:11, Jake j...@spaz.org wrote:

 I just want to say the same thing that a lot of other people have been
 saying for a long time.  Bazaar is holding kicad back.  I am yet another
 developer who would be contributing to improving the project if it
 weren't
 kept in an arcane and frustrating VCS.

 So, if you're putting letters like this in a pile somewhere, just go
 ahead
 and put this one in the pile.

 I really would love it if kicad went to git, not just to make it easy
 for me
 to contribute, but for lots and lots of people who would jump in and
 help.

 thank you for everything you've done and all that you will do
 -jake


 Hi Jake,

 Did you read the whole of this subject? Go ahead and use Git if you
 want, no-one is going to stop you. Links have been provided on
 information to allow you to develop using Git.

 We look forward to your contributions.

 Best Regards, Brian.


 Hi Brian,

 I assume you're referring to git-bzr-ng which I was told about on irc.
 Supposedly this can allow a git user to interact with the bazaar system
 transparently.  That would be great, except i can't get it to work.

 snip

 thank you
 -jake


 Hi Jake,

 I think Brian was referring to the GitHub mirror workflow that has been
 discussed in this thread in the last 24 hours. The following messages are
 the key ones in this workflow discussion:

 1: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12148.html
 2: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12159.html
 3: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12160.html
 4: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12161.html

 In fact, Henner has already submitted two patches to this mailing list based
 on this workflow, so it seems to be quite usable in practice.

 I guess we could document this workflow on the KiCad website, say under the
 KiCad development page (
 http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/DEV/KiCad+Development ). Maybe once the
 core developers have given their blessing that it works from their side as
 well?

 Regards,
 Blair

Hi Guys,

Sorry last night was wiped out with family stuff so I didn't get
chance to update kicad-pcb.org. I will try and get it done tonight,
but in the meantime use the instructions on the Inkscape developer
wiki and let us know how you get on.

Best Regards,

Brian.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision - document git-bzr bridge!

2014-02-06 Thread Jake

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Blair Bonnett wrote:

Hi Jake,

I think Brian was referring to the GitHub mirror workflow that has been 
discussed in this thread in the last 24 hours. The following messages are the 
key ones in this workflow
discussion:

1: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12148.html
2: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12159.html
3: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12160.html
4: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12161.html

In fact, Henner has already submitted two patches to this mailing list based on 
this workflow, so it seems to be quite usable in practice.

I guess we could document this workflow on the KiCad website, say under the 
KiCad development page ( http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/DEV/KiCad+Development 
). Maybe once the
core developers have given their blessing that it works from their side as well?

Regards,
Blair


Thank you Blair, this is a fine solution for me.  I wish I had known about 
this all along and there would have been no need for me to take up all 
this space about the issue!


In my opinion this git mirror, along with build instructions (which may be 
as simple as use scripts/kicad-install.sh instead of make install) 
should be front and center on the pages where developers might end up.


This may also apply, but i'm not sure exactly how yet: (thanks Povilas) 
https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror/wiki


right now when i google for download kicad the first link is this:
http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/Download+Kicad

which is an empty page that says only Page moved to _here_
which is a link to:
http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/Download

The option for KiCad source code and KiCad bleeding edge version both 
link to here:

https://launchpad.net/kicad

and on that page, a developer wishing to help would probably click on
Code repository (contributions are welcome):
https://code.launchpad.net/kicad

and I think this would be a good place to put help for people who only 
know git, such as a note about the github mirror (and yet another link)


of course the link you mentioned:
http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/DEV/KiCad+Development

is the place where developers wanting to help SHOULD be clicking, but they 
could end up at either place depending on how they search for stuff.


Thank you for the github mirror, i look forward to using it to help out!

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