Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
On 4/13/2016 8:03 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 07:56:14AM -0300, Marcos Chaparro wrote: >> Yeah, as a mundane user, I also vote for default silk on pad off. > > It's harmless anyway since 99% of the time the silk will be removed > where there is not solder mask (either during plotting or during > fabrication). > > Still I have disabled it in my version! I would prefer it to be disabled by default. I can't remember how many times I've forgot to disable it and had to go back an fix it. > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 07:56:14AM -0300, Marcos Chaparro wrote: > Yeah, as a mundane user, I also vote for default silk on pad off. It's harmless anyway since 99% of the time the silk will be removed where there is not solder mask (either during plotting or during fabrication). Still I have disabled it in my version! -- Lorenzo Marcantonio CZ Srl - Parma signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
Yeah, as a mundane user, I also vote for default silk on pad off. Marcos On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > Yeah, Peter, this suggestion is not to remove the possibility to have > the silk, just to not enable the silk on through holes by default, > which rarely makes sense anyway. > > I have been wondering about this default option many times and always > find myself correcting the footprint when I realize that it is > enabled, which can become a bit tedious. So I vote for default silk on > pad off too. > > 2016-04-13 1:39 GMT+02:00 Chris Pavlina : > > Yeah, I can think of edge cases where it might be desirable. I'm just > having > > trouble imagining why it would be *default*. You can enable that layer > manually > > on these touch pads in this case. > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:07:16AM +0930, Peter Wintulich wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I had been court by this. > >> There is one scenario where it may be use full, though SMT pads would > more > >> likely be used. > >> This is for touch panels where the solder mask and Silk screen are over > the > >> pad area with no exposed metal. > >> > >> Regards Peter > >> > >> On 13/04/16 08:57, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >> >On 4/12/2016 5:53 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > >> >>Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen > over PTH pads > >> >>by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be > manufactured > >> >>this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose > "Subtract > >> >>soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which > aren't > >> >>necessary dependable... > >> >> > >> >I would give users and devs a few days to respond and if no one > >> >complains too loudly go ahead and remove the offending code. > >> > > >> >___ > >> >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >> >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Peter Wintulich > >> > >> Voicetronix Pty. Ltd. > >> Suite 6, Level 1, 977 North East Road, > >> MODBURY 5092 > >> South Australia > >> AUSTRALIA > >> +61 8 8264 2005 > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
Yeah, Peter, this suggestion is not to remove the possibility to have the silk, just to not enable the silk on through holes by default, which rarely makes sense anyway. I have been wondering about this default option many times and always find myself correcting the footprint when I realize that it is enabled, which can become a bit tedious. So I vote for default silk on pad off too. 2016-04-13 1:39 GMT+02:00 Chris Pavlina : > Yeah, I can think of edge cases where it might be desirable. I'm just having > trouble imagining why it would be *default*. You can enable that layer > manually > on these touch pads in this case. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:07:16AM +0930, Peter Wintulich wrote: >> Hello, >> I had been court by this. >> There is one scenario where it may be use full, though SMT pads would more >> likely be used. >> This is for touch panels where the solder mask and Silk screen are over the >> pad area with no exposed metal. >> >> Regards Peter >> >> On 13/04/16 08:57, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> >On 4/12/2016 5:53 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: >> >>Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen over PTH >> >>pads >> >>by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be >> >>manufactured >> >>this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose >> >>"Subtract >> >>soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which aren't >> >>necessary dependable... >> >> >> >I would give users and devs a few days to respond and if no one >> >complains too loudly go ahead and remove the offending code. >> > >> >___ >> >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> Peter Wintulich >> >> Voicetronix Pty. Ltd. >> Suite 6, Level 1, 977 North East Road, >> MODBURY 5092 >> South Australia >> AUSTRALIA >> +61 8 8264 2005 >> >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
Yeah, I can think of edge cases where it might be desirable. I'm just having trouble imagining why it would be *default*. You can enable that layer manually on these touch pads in this case. On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 09:07:16AM +0930, Peter Wintulich wrote: > Hello, > I had been court by this. > There is one scenario where it may be use full, though SMT pads would more > likely be used. > This is for touch panels where the solder mask and Silk screen are over the > pad area with no exposed metal. > > Regards Peter > > On 13/04/16 08:57, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >On 4/12/2016 5:53 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > >>Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen over PTH > >>pads > >>by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be manufactured > >>this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose > >>"Subtract > >>soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which aren't > >>necessary dependable... > >> > >I would give users and devs a few days to respond and if no one > >complains too loudly go ahead and remove the offending code. > > > >___ > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > > Peter Wintulich > > Voicetronix Pty. Ltd. > Suite 6, Level 1, 977 North East Road, > MODBURY 5092 > South Australia > AUSTRALIA > +61 8 8264 2005 > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
Hello, I had been court by this. There is one scenario where it may be use full, though SMT pads would more likely be used. This is for touch panels where the solder mask and Silk screen are over the pad area with no exposed metal. Regards Peter On 13/04/16 08:57, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/12/2016 5:53 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen over PTH pads by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be manufactured this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose "Subtract soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which aren't necessary dependable... I would give users and devs a few days to respond and if no one complains too loudly go ahead and remove the offending code. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Peter Wintulich Voicetronix Pty. Ltd. Suite 6, Level 1, 977 North East Road, MODBURY 5092 South Australia AUSTRALIA +61 8 8264 2005 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
On 4/12/2016 5:53 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen over PTH > pads > by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be manufactured > this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose > "Subtract > soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which aren't > necessary dependable... > I would give users and devs a few days to respond and if no one complains too loudly go ahead and remove the offending code. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kicad-developers] Silk on pads
Quick question... does anybody know why we are putting silkscreen over PTH pads by default? And can we change this? Obviously they shouldn't be manufactured this way, so we're depending on either the user to remember to choose "Subtract soldermask from silkscreen" or on the fab to do it, both of which aren't necessary dependable... -- Chris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
