[Kicad-developers] problem with clashing hotkeys and translations
There is a little problem arising in the way KiCad handles hotkeys and translations. All occurences of menu strings are all merged togegher in all KiCad programs of the suite. The more KiCad grows the more is probably is that hotkeys that are perfectly valid in one menu will be clashing with another in another menu of another program. See for example the double 'p' hotkey in the Pl_Editor file menu (press the Alt key in Ubuntu for seeing the hotkeys underlined). Another problem arises from the fact that is not always possible to translate different strings in different context that are rendered in English with the same word. As an example in English none is translated to nessuno or nessuna in Italian depending respectively from the context male or female object which they are referring to and I imagine that in other languages there are similar problems. Gettext has a way to handle it using the context: https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Contexts.html Will you consider to adopt such a expedient to solve this problem? Thanks in advance, -- Marco Ciampa I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it. ++ | GNU/Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] problem with clashing hotkeys and translations
Le 19/04/2015 15:23, Marco Ciampa a écrit : There is a little problem arising in the way KiCad handles hotkeys and translations. All occurences of menu strings are all merged togegher in all KiCad programs of the suite. The more KiCad grows the more is probably is that hotkeys that are perfectly valid in one menu will be clashing with another in another menu of another program. See for example the double 'p' hotkey in the Pl_Editor file menu (press the Alt key in Ubuntu for seeing the hotkeys underlined). Another problem arises from the fact that is not always possible to translate different strings in different context that are rendered in English with the same word. As an example in English none is translated to nessuno or nessuna in Italian depending respectively from the context male or female object which they are referring to and I imagine that in other languages there are similar problems. Gettext has a way to handle it using the context: https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Contexts.html Will you consider to adopt such a expedient to solve this problem? Thanks in advance, -- Marco Ciampa I don't know if wxWidgets support this kind of context, but to tell the True, from my point of view (I mean, the point of view of the French translator), when this issue arises, it is mainly due the fact the label menu is too short (therefore ambiguous), or the sentence is not correctly built in Kicad (for instance not using a Printf syntax, but using a code like message x y x which is never translatable ). Therefore, in all cases, it is due to an incorrect code. I always prefer fix an issue than find a workaround. So, at least for a first approach, send us where these issues are found. I am pretty sure they can be fixed correctly. (By the way, I do not understand the issue about clashing hotkeys: The double 'p' hotkey (p is not a hotkey in this case) in the Pl_Editor file menu does not create any issue because these shortcuts are not in the same menu list ) Thanks. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] problem with clashing hotkeys and translations
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 08:28:00PM +0200, jp charras wrote: (By the way, I do not understand the issue about clashing hotkeys: The double 'p' hotkey (p is not a hotkey in this case) in the Pl_Editor file menu does not create any issue because these shortcuts are not in the same menu list ) I am using Linux Ubuntu, some other SO could behave differently. I have set English language and opened Pl_Editor. If I open the file menu, I see (pressing the Alt key) two different entries with p underlined, meaning that there are two different p somewhere in the strings. Print is a string used almost everywhere, see the .po file for a list of references, and I think that there are places into that p do not clash with other menu entries. The strings are: Load Page Layout File and Print both shortcut with Alt+FP -clash ahemmm... tried now: the first go with Alt+FP the second Alt+FPP (pressing again P switch betweent the menu with the same shortcut). Sorry for the noise! -- Marco Ciampa I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it. ++ | GNU/Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
