Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 12:14:46AM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for sorting this out, it'll make a great difference for my next board! If you look at the actual routine it's something like... maybe 20 lines:P Too busy at work to do it before -- Lorenzo Marcantonio Logos Srl ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
Lorenzo, I know it's a pain to do but this really needs to be documented somewhere in the Pcbnew user's manual. Otherwise, no one will know how to use this excellent feature except those of us on the developers mailing list. The reason I'm asking you to do this is that yesterday I was attempting use the BOM generator which I haven't used in a long time and discovered that the current documentation is completely different than the actual behavior of Eeschema. We *all* really need to do a better job of keeping the documentation current. I'm not singling you out Lorenzo but if we truly want to provide a stable release at some point in the near future then we really should keep the documentation current. If you add a new feature, change the way a current feature functions, or happen to stumble across an documentation error, please make sure the documentation gets updated. I know there is work under way to convert to a text based format but we should continue to keep the odt documentation up to date until that actually happens. Thanks, Wayne On 10/4/2014 11:26 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: Sorry about the delay, we had the automechanika fair and related stuff to handle :P In fact the patch is quite simple (I already did the biggest changes...) It handles % sequences in user text primitives inside modules (usefulness already debated); now it recognizes: %% for a plain % %R inserts the reference %V inserts the value Obviously it can be extended to insert other stuff (has to be available from the module class, however). The only issue is repainting, since it insert a dependency between unrelated fields: when you change reference or value the user fields using them are not updated until the next redraw. Shouldn't be a big problem, however. Extensive testing is, as usual, appreciated. Have fun ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
On 6 October 2014 16:23, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@verizon.net wrote: Lorenzo, I know it's a pain to do but this really needs to be documented somewhere in the Pcbnew user's manual. Otherwise, no one will know how to use this excellent feature except those of us on the developers mailing list. The reason I'm asking you to do this is that yesterday I was attempting use the BOM generator which I haven't used in a long time and discovered that the current documentation is completely different than the actual behavior of Eeschema. We *all* really need to do a better job of keeping the documentation current. I'm not singling you out Lorenzo but if we truly want to provide a stable release at some point in the near future then we really should keep the documentation current. If you add a new feature, change the way a current feature functions, or happen to stumble across an documentation error, please make sure the documentation gets updated. I know there is work under way to convert to a text based format but we should continue to keep the odt documentation up to date until that actually happens. Thanks, Wayne On 10/4/2014 11:26 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: Sorry about the delay, we had the automechanika fair and related stuff to handle :P In fact the patch is quite simple (I already did the biggest changes...) It handles % sequences in user text primitives inside modules (usefulness already debated); now it recognizes: %% for a plain % %R inserts the reference %V inserts the value Obviously it can be extended to insert other stuff (has to be available from the module class, however). The only issue is repainting, since it insert a dependency between unrelated fields: when you change reference or value the user fields using them are not updated until the next redraw. Shouldn't be a big problem, however. Extensive testing is, as usual, appreciated. Have fun I know it was only a few lines of code Lorenzo, but you wrote them not me, so thank-you! I've had so little time to do anything lately and I really wanted to be able to do the assembly layer properly for a long time. Wayne, I agree and I am about to commit some changes to the EESCHEMA options dialog to improve the template field editing and some general tidy up with the code class. I was wondering if we should document this in the current docs or wait until the new docs. I will update the documentation as soon as the dialog changes are in place. I still need to add validation to the template field names too, but I will do that as a second patch because I'm running out of time and I've already had to deal with conflicts in the fbp generated XML once (it was a nightmare!) so I'm keen for that not to happen again. Best Regards, Brian. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:42:37PM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: make sure the documentation gets updated. I know there is work under way to convert to a text based format but we should continue to keep the odt documentation up to date until that actually happens. Sure, no problem. Just tell me what is the correct doc to update and I'll update it. I'm not exactly familiar with the layout of that project :P ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
On 10/6/2014 11:42 AM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: On 6 October 2014 16:23, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@verizon.net wrote: Lorenzo, I know it's a pain to do but this really needs to be documented somewhere in the Pcbnew user's manual. Otherwise, no one will know how to use this excellent feature except those of us on the developers mailing list. The reason I'm asking you to do this is that yesterday I was attempting use the BOM generator which I haven't used in a long time and discovered that the current documentation is completely different than the actual behavior of Eeschema. We *all* really need to do a better job of keeping the documentation current. I'm not singling you out Lorenzo but if we truly want to provide a stable release at some point in the near future then we really should keep the documentation current. If you add a new feature, change the way a current feature functions, or happen to stumble across an documentation error, please make sure the documentation gets updated. I know there is work under way to convert to a text based format but we should continue to keep the odt documentation up to date until that actually happens. Thanks, Wayne On 10/4/2014 11:26 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: Sorry about the delay, we had the automechanika fair and related stuff to handle :P In fact the patch is quite simple (I already did the biggest changes...) It handles % sequences in user text primitives inside modules (usefulness already debated); now it recognizes: %% for a plain % %R inserts the reference %V inserts the value Obviously it can be extended to insert other stuff (has to be available from the module class, however). The only issue is repainting, since it insert a dependency between unrelated fields: when you change reference or value the user fields using them are not updated until the next redraw. Shouldn't be a big problem, however. Extensive testing is, as usual, appreciated. Have fun I know it was only a few lines of code Lorenzo, but you wrote them not me, so thank-you! I've had so little time to do anything lately and I really wanted to be able to do the assembly layer properly for a long time. Wayne, I agree and I am about to commit some changes to the EESCHEMA options dialog to improve the template field editing and some general tidy up with the code class. I was wondering if we should document this in the current docs or wait until the new docs. I will update the documentation as soon as the dialog changes are in place. I would prefer that you go ahead and update the current docs. I have not heard anything from our intrepid documentation conversion folks so until I have a definitive answer, I think it's a good idea to keep things documented in a known location to prevent them from falling through the cracks. If they have to be pulled forward into the new document format, so be it. Thank you for the help. Cheers, Wayne I still need to add validation to the template field names too, but I will do that as a second patch because I'm running out of time and I've already had to deal with conflicts in the fbp generated XML once (it was a nightmare!) so I'm keen for that not to happen again. Best Regards, Brian. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
On 10/6/2014 12:34 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:42:37PM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: make sure the documentation gets updated. I know there is work under way to convert to a text based format but we should continue to keep the odt documentation up to date until that actually happens. Sure, no problem. Just tell me what is the correct doc to update and I'll update it. I'm not exactly familiar with the layout of that project :P Check out the docs from: lp:~kicad-developers/kicad/doc I didn't see an obvious place to put this so I would add a new section called Adding Text to the end of the Create and Modify a Board section which is located in the file: .\doc\help\en\docs_src\pcbnew\pcbnew_chap6_EN.odt If you don't have write access (I think everyone who is part of the kicad-committers group does but I'm not sure) to the doc repo, send me the odt file and I will update the table of contents, generate the updated pdf file, and commit the changes. Thanks, Wayne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] Macro expansion in module text
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for sorting this out, it'll make a great difference for my next board! Best Regards, Brian. On 4 Oct 2014 16:26, Lorenzo Marcantonio l.marcanto...@logossrl.com wrote: Sorry about the delay, we had the automechanika fair and related stuff to handle :P In fact the patch is quite simple (I already did the biggest changes...) It handles % sequences in user text primitives inside modules (usefulness already debated); now it recognizes: %% for a plain % %R inserts the reference %V inserts the value Obviously it can be extended to insert other stuff (has to be available from the module class, however). The only issue is repainting, since it insert a dependency between unrelated fields: when you change reference or value the user fields using them are not updated until the next redraw. Shouldn't be a big problem, however. Extensive testing is, as usual, appreciated. Have fun -- Lorenzo Marcantonio Logos Srl ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
