Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-09 Thread Brian Sidebotham
Search for valvers-pcb

Fifth result is the github repository I setup as a test when the Github
plugin was coming to fruition. So I think github indexing works fine for
personal repo's.

The key is to get something searchable that is reasonably unique.
Everything before this is old stuff that I must tidy up.

Searching for kicad_mod tyco multilock also returns the correct result (Top
answer this time as it's so specific) so there's mileage in Google in being
the library browser of choice.

Best Regards,

Brian.


On 9 November 2013 04:31, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote:

 On 11/08/2013 03:51 PM, Carl Poirier wrote:
  I meant get something out of Google. Without waiting for 10 months.


 Its possible there's simply a delay.  But here's another theory:


 What if google's policy is to *not ever* index personal github repos, on
 the theory it is
 too much, too fleeting, and that a personal repo is often a fork of a
 project repo?  Then
 you will wait forever.  There are about 2 million repos on github.

 Isn't a project repo, on the other hand, one that is registered with
 github as a project?

 I am wondering if they only index project repos as a policy decision.  It
 would make sense
 to me.



 
  Search for github kicad
 Resistor_SMD2010_ReflowWave_RevA_Date21Jun2010.kicad_mod, you'll
  see it doesn't get you anything,
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
  mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
 
  At github there are personal repos and project repos.  If I google
 for
 
  github kicad base_screen.cpp
 
  I find the file base_screen.cpp, which is from a 10 month old copy
 of our launchpad repo
  lodged in a *project* repo.
 
 
  There is hope, don't know if its the personal vs. project repo that
 factors into the
  google policy or not.
 
  BTW, here are the mug shots of the project owners:
 
  https://github.com/KiCAD?tab=members
 
  All two of them.
 
  Thanks for your time Carl.  You will be hearing a lot more of that
 from others in the near
  future.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
   I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos
 under my name
  don't seem
   to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different ways,
 including the most obvious
   ones. I'll see how we can get something out of it.
  
  
   On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
  mailto:d...@softplc.com
   mailto:d...@softplc.com mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
  
   Switching from openssl thread to a new one:
  
  
   
With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user
 base (omitting
  OSX?), I now
look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github
 and bragging about
  them,
   under
the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how
 on how to publish
  them so
that they can be installed by a single copy and paste
 through a webbrowser
  into the
fp-lib-table editor.
   
I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a
 positive way, so that I
  can spend
less time looking for footprints, and more time making
 boards.
   
I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty
 on github
  publishing know
how on kicad-pcb.org http://kicad-pcb.org 
 http://kicad-pcb.org in the form
  of documentation, and a link
   to that write up making it
to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would
 spur more sharing,
  and yet
again help my productivity in making boards.
   
Question: does google index any of the github content, or is
 it simply too
  much?  If
   yes,
then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific
 footprints rapidly after this
publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
   
   kicad_mod package_name
   
and turn up something.
   
  
  
   I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes
 (cash, goodies) of
  some kind,
   and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every
 six months or so.
  
   OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this
 stuff, OK !?
  
   (I've got programming work and board work to do.  No time for
 library
  management, and I
   don't have the expertise either.)
  
  
  
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Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
We should not be surprised that SEO expertise plays a role in the life of a 
kicad user also.

There's much to learn here, even as encouraging as Brian's posting is.

And believe me, I am very encouraged and relieved.  Just hungry for more 
knowledge.






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 Original message 
From: Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com 
Date: 11/09/2013  6:03 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com 
Cc: Carl Poirier carl.poirie...@gmail.com,KiCad Developers 
kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net 
Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans 
 
Search for valvers-pcb

Fifth result is the github repository I setup as a test when the Github plugin 
was coming to fruition. So I think github indexing works fine for personal 
repo's.

The key is to get something searchable that is reasonably unique. Everything 
before this is old stuff that I must tidy up.

Searching for kicad_mod tyco multilock also returns the correct result (Top 
answer this time as it's so specific) so there's mileage in Google in being the 
library browser of choice.

Best Regards,

Brian.


On 9 November 2013 04:31, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote:
On 11/08/2013 03:51 PM, Carl Poirier wrote:
 I meant get something out of Google. Without waiting for 10 months.


Its possible there's simply a delay.  But here's another theory:


What if google's policy is to *not ever* index personal github repos, on the 
theory it is
too much, too fleeting, and that a personal repo is often a fork of a project 
repo?  Then
you will wait forever.  There are about 2 million repos on github.

Isn't a project repo, on the other hand, one that is registered with github 
as a project?

I am wondering if they only index project repos as a policy decision.  It would 
make sense
to me.




 Search for github kicad 
 Resistor_SMD2010_ReflowWave_RevA_Date21Jun2010.kicad_mod, you'll
 see it doesn't get you anything,


 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
 mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:

     At github there are personal repos and project repos.  If I google for

     github kicad base_screen.cpp

     I find the file base_screen.cpp, which is from a 10 month old copy of our 
 launchpad repo
     lodged in a *project* repo.


     There is hope, don't know if its the personal vs. project repo that 
 factors into the
     google policy or not.

     BTW, here are the mug shots of the project owners:

     https://github.com/KiCAD?tab=members

     All two of them.

     Thanks for your time Carl.  You will be hearing a lot more of that from 
 others in the near
     future.






     
      I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos under 
 my name
     don't seem
      to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different ways, including 
 the most obvious
      ones. I'll see how we can get something out of it.
     
     
      On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
     mailto:d...@softplc.com
      mailto:d...@softplc.com mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
     
          Switching from openssl thread to a new one:
     
     
          
           With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user base 
 (omitting
     OSX?), I now
           look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github and 
 bragging about
     them,
          under
           the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how on 
 how to publish
     them so
           that they can be installed by a single copy and paste through a 
 webbrowser
     into the
           fp-lib-table editor.
          
           I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a positive 
 way, so that I
     can spend
           less time looking for footprints, and more time making boards.
          
           I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty on 
 github
     publishing know
           how on kicad-pcb.org http://kicad-pcb.org 
 http://kicad-pcb.org in the form
     of documentation, and a link
          to that write up making it
           to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would spur 
 more sharing,
     and yet
           again help my productivity in making boards.
          
           Question: does google index any of the github content, or is it 
 simply too
     much?  If
          yes,
           then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific footprints 
 rapidly after this
           publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
          
              kicad_mod package_name
          
           and turn up something.
          
     
     
          I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes (cash, 
 goodies) of
     some kind,
          and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every six 
 months or so.
     
          OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this 
 stuff, OK !?
     
          (I've got

Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-08 Thread Carl Poirier
I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos under my
name don't seem to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different
ways, including the most obvious ones. I'll see how we can get something
out of it.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote:

 Switching from openssl thread to a new one:


 
  With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user base
 (omitting OSX?), I now
  look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github and bragging
 about them, under
  the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how on how to
 publish them so
  that they can be installed by a single copy and paste through a
 webbrowser into the
  fp-lib-table editor.
 
  I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a positive way, so
 that I can spend
  less time looking for footprints, and more time making boards.
 
  I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty on github
 publishing know
  how on kicad-pcb.org in the form of documentation, and a link to that
 write up making it
  to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would spur more
 sharing, and yet
  again help my productivity in making boards.
 
  Question: does google index any of the github content, or is it simply
 too much?  If yes,
  then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific footprints rapidly
 after this
  publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
 
 kicad_mod package_name
 
  and turn up something.
 


 I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes (cash,
 goodies) of some kind,
 and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every six months
 or so.

 OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this stuff, OK !?

 (I've got programming work and board work to do.  No time for library
 management, and I
 don't have the expertise either.)



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Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-08 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
What, no google?

Github has search itself?

Also, or alternatively, footprint people could submit a URL to an indexer that 
we control,
say a node.js script someplace, and then that script could publish the results 
on an HTML
page that we control.



On 11/08/2013 02:24 PM, Carl Poirier wrote:
 
 I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos under my 
 name don't seem
 to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different ways, including the 
 most obvious
 ones. I'll see how we can get something out of it.
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
 mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
 
 Switching from openssl thread to a new one:
 
 
 
  With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user base 
 (omitting OSX?), I now
  look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github and 
 bragging about them,
 under
  the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how on how to 
 publish them so
  that they can be installed by a single copy and paste through a 
 webbrowser into the
  fp-lib-table editor.
 
  I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a positive way, so 
 that I can spend
  less time looking for footprints, and more time making boards.
 
  I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty on github 
 publishing know
  how on kicad-pcb.org http://kicad-pcb.org in the form of 
 documentation, and a link
 to that write up making it
  to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would spur more 
 sharing, and yet
  again help my productivity in making boards.
 
  Question: does google index any of the github content, or is it simply 
 too much?  If
 yes,
  then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific footprints rapidly 
 after this
  publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
 
 kicad_mod package_name
 
  and turn up something.
 
 
 
 I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes (cash, 
 goodies) of some kind,
 and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every six months 
 or so.
 
 OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this stuff, OK 
 !?
 
 (I've got programming work and board work to do.  No time for library 
 management, and I
 don't have the expertise either.)
 
 
 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-08 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
At github there are personal repos and project repos.  If I google for

github kicad base_screen.cpp

I find the file base_screen.cpp, which is from a 10 month old copy of our 
launchpad repo
lodged in a *project* repo.


There is hope, don't know if its the personal vs. project repo that factors 
into the
google policy or not.

BTW, here are the mug shots of the project owners:

https://github.com/KiCAD?tab=members

All two of them.

Thanks for your time Carl.  You will be hearing a lot more of that from others 
in the near
future.






 
 I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos under my 
 name don't seem
 to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different ways, including the 
 most obvious
 ones. I'll see how we can get something out of it.
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
 mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
 
 Switching from openssl thread to a new one:
 
 
 
  With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user base 
 (omitting OSX?), I now
  look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github and 
 bragging about them,
 under
  the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how on how to 
 publish them so
  that they can be installed by a single copy and paste through a 
 webbrowser into the
  fp-lib-table editor.
 
  I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a positive way, so 
 that I can spend
  less time looking for footprints, and more time making boards.
 
  I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty on github 
 publishing know
  how on kicad-pcb.org http://kicad-pcb.org in the form of 
 documentation, and a link
 to that write up making it
  to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would spur more 
 sharing, and yet
  again help my productivity in making boards.
 
  Question: does google index any of the github content, or is it simply 
 too much?  If
 yes,
  then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific footprints rapidly 
 after this
  publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
 
 kicad_mod package_name
 
  and turn up something.
 
 
 
 I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes (cash, 
 goodies) of some kind,
 and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every six months 
 or so.
 
 OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this stuff, OK 
 !?
 
 (I've got programming work and board work to do.  No time for library 
 management, and I
 don't have the expertise either.)
 
 
 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] github roll-out plans

2013-11-08 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 11/08/2013 03:51 PM, Carl Poirier wrote:
 I meant get something out of Google. Without waiting for 10 months.


Its possible there's simply a delay.  But here's another theory:


What if google's policy is to *not ever* index personal github repos, on the 
theory it is
too much, too fleeting, and that a personal repo is often a fork of a project 
repo?  Then
you will wait forever.  There are about 2 million repos on github.

Isn't a project repo, on the other hand, one that is registered with github 
as a project?

I am wondering if they only index project repos as a policy decision.  It would 
make sense
to me.



 
 Search for github kicad 
 Resistor_SMD2010_ReflowWave_RevA_Date21Jun2010.kicad_mod, you'll
 see it doesn't get you anything,
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
 mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
 
 At github there are personal repos and project repos.  If I google for
 
 github kicad base_screen.cpp
 
 I find the file base_screen.cpp, which is from a 10 month old copy of our 
 launchpad repo
 lodged in a *project* repo.
 
 
 There is hope, don't know if its the personal vs. project repo that 
 factors into the
 google policy or not.
 
 BTW, here are the mug shots of the project owners:
 
 https://github.com/KiCAD?tab=members
 
 All two of them.
 
 Thanks for your time Carl.  You will be hearing a lot more of that from 
 others in the near
 future.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm experimenting with Google Search and for now the GitHub repos under 
 my name
 don't seem
  to get indexed at all. I've searched in many different ways, including 
 the most obvious
  ones. I'll see how we can get something out of it.
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com
 mailto:d...@softplc.com
  mailto:d...@softplc.com mailto:d...@softplc.com wrote:
 
  Switching from openssl thread to a new one:
 
 
  
   With GITHUB_PLUGIN now available to ~ 90% of the KiCad user base 
 (omitting
 OSX?), I now
   look forward to folks putting footprint libraries on github and 
 bragging about
 them,
  under
   the leadership of Carl Poirier, who has scripts and know how on 
 how to publish
 them so
   that they can be installed by a single copy and paste through a 
 webbrowser
 into the
   fp-lib-table editor.
  
   I look forward to that affecting my productivity in a positive 
 way, so that I
 can spend
   less time looking for footprints, and more time making boards.
  
   I would look forward to collaboration on sharing the pretty on 
 github
 publishing know
   how on kicad-pcb.org http://kicad-pcb.org 
 http://kicad-pcb.org in the form
 of documentation, and a link
  to that write up making it
   to the kicad-user mailing list.  Because I think this would spur 
 more sharing,
 and yet
   again help my productivity in making boards.
  
   Question: does google index any of the github content, or is it 
 simply too
 much?  If
  yes,
   then this is yet another way to find KiCad specific footprints 
 rapidly after this
   publishing gets some legs.  You should be able to google for
  
  kicad_mod package_name
  
   and turn up something.
  
 
 
  I think it would be great if we could gather up some prizes (cash, 
 goodies) of
 some kind,
  and award them to a best footprint library maintainer every six 
 months or so.
 
  OK, it's out there, now I hope the community can run with this 
 stuff, OK !?
 
  (I've got programming work and board work to do.  No time for 
 library
 management, and I
  don't have the expertise either.)
 
 
 
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