Re: [kicad-users] pin position occupied - false positives ?
Werner Almesberger a écrit : When working with a component that contains multiple independent units, KiCad warns about pin locations being occupied even if the conflicting pin is in a different unit. This may to be unnecessary. I've attached a patch that suppresses the warning if the pins are in different units. This warning is necessary. Because for pins at same location, some changes can be made for all pins. See Eeschema doc, chapter 11.6.3 -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Drill file missing vias
wdoe999 a écrit : I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but... I created 3 boards that have one or more vias on each. If I create a drill file for each board, the drill file does contain all of the via drill holes for that board. I then put the 3 boards onto one panel and then created a drill file. In the Drill-Files- Generation dialogue box, under the Holes-Count section, it clearly says that there are 7 Through-Vias. However, the resulting drill file only has one via in it. Curiously, it is the one via on the leftmost board. It seems to be missing the vias from the other boards. There's no problem with any of the other drill holes. The plotting for the panel is OK as well. Please, can you send me yours PCB files ? (to jean-pierre.char...@gipsa-lab.inpg.fr) -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] ErrType(16) - Two track ends
Boris Barbour a écrit : Hi, Is it possible to join a track to a net without starting drawing on the net in question? In other words, if I start tracing in the middle of nowhere, the track is assigned to Net:0/noname. It is then impossible to join it to another net with DRC on (I get the ErrType(16) of the subject); with DRC off I can make the join, but the track retains its null net and will evermore generate DRC errors. Is there a way to induce Kicad to change the net name once the join is made, either automatically or manually? In case you are wondering why I should want to do this, the issue arises most often when drawing guarding and shielding traces. I've managed to work around the problem so far, but not without difficulty. Best wishes Boris Just open netlist dialog and run Rebuild Board Connectivity -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Zone fill issue. Another one...
Alain M. a écrit : Hi Jean Pierre, I also found a problem in the new version with Zone fill: I needed a pad to be round on one side and right-angled on the other side. To do that, I ploted an ARC on the solder-side. This makes an extra copper area exactly as I need. The only problem is that Zone-Fill is ignoring that extra copper area and is making a short :( (I could workaround using the zone clearence) Do you need a sample file? If I send only the .brd file, is it ok? Yes, send me your board file. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
[kicad-users] Zone fill issue.
In very rare cases the zone filling algorithm fails in zone calculations. This is due to a non fixed bug in the kbool library (that is a great library do to polygon calculations) used in kicad to handle zones. Currently only one case is known. A workaround could be to slightly change a zone parameter (like zone clearance) For the known case, a change from 0.381 mm to 0.386 mm solves the problem. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG Rue de la Houille Blanche 38400 Saint Martin d'Heres
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Zone fill freezes PCBnew!
oecherexpat a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, Please find the file WMD-20090227. brd in the files area inside the Zone filling issue folder. As mentioned, I tried the latest stable version as well as 20090118 (which actually shows 20090107 in the header), both under XP SP3. Can also try on Ubuntu 8.04 in a few days if it would help. Thanks, Heiko I am working on this. But you have a zone clearance = 20 inches for all zones. This is that freezes Pcbnew With a decent clearance value (i tested 0.02 ), Pcbnew works fine. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Re: information about demos video board
cf...@rocketmail.com a écrit : Nobody ? --- In kicad-users@ yahoogroups. com mailto:kicad-users%40yahoogroups.com, cf...@... cf...@... wrote: Hi all, who has made the video board demos in kicad ? just to know, how does he made the routing ? manually, autorouter(kicad) or autorouter extern ?is there an method ? Me. By hand. there are 2300 pads on this board Boards i use to test kicad have 4500 pads (and more). They are routed by hand. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Support for blind and buried vias?
Boris Barbour a écrit : Hi, I am considering a design that would use blind and buried vias. However, KiCad rather scarily says it is experimental, and the changelog seems to suggest it cannot yet be used for production. Is it known not to work or should work but untested? Should work, but fully untested. In fact i tested gerber and drill files but i never send such a board to a board manufacturer. Would the potential problems be obvious (detected by DRC, for instance) or might problems be silent? Problems can be a lack of command to edit a via. (edit layers pairs of an existing via, automatic change of layer pairs when creating a new track starting or ending on a via (or deleting atrack) , merging 2 vias at the same coordinate ...) But of an other hand we need a volunteer to test it. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Fields Properties in Libedit
Carlo Garberi a écrit : Please note: in Kicad-2009-12- 29: EESCHEMA Libedit Edit Components Properties there is no more the field FIELD and you can not edit/modify the properties of a components into Libedit. You have a new tool to edit/add/remove fields in Libedit -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) Grenoble France
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Can anyone explain why EEschema uses A and B for pin numbers?
calvingrier a écrit : --- In kicad-users@ yahoogroups. com mailto:kicad-users%40yahoogroups.com, Pedro Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think you are not doing anything wrong. But there are only 2 choices: 1. Edit eeschema R an C and change pin numbers to 1 an 2. 2. Edit the modules and change pin numbers to A and B. Maybe there is another choice: copy and paste your old R and C from an older project to a new library and use them. So I tried copy/save from a project with a netlist that works (generates netlist connections for pins 1 and 2) and pasting the block into a project that's broken. EEschema removed the old annotations, and I had it update for the new schematic. Then I generated the netlist. Once again the netlist had pins numbered A and B. PCBnew just can't understand that numbering for the default modules in KiCAD. When copying (duplicates) a block eeschema reset references because 2 components cannot have the same reference (or the same time stamp). I looked at the library and the pin numbers on all the standard 2 pin passive elements were ~. I could go through and force them to 1 and 2, but that's a lot of work, and I'd have to do it to each element I want to use... I believe you are confusing pin names and pin numbers. For passive components like R and C, pin names are void (~ in lib) but the pin numbers are 1 and 2 pin numbers are the link between schematic and boards. (pin number can be in fact a word using up to 4 ascii code : 1 , 2 or inp or anod o AA11) Please ckeck you library ans see the pin *number* (pin name is not used by netlists) they must be 1 and 2 (and not A or B, unless you are also using A or B as pad names in footprints). Generally speaking pin *numbers and pad names must be the same word (or number) I could also modify all the modules I need, so they all use A and B for pin numbers... but again, I'd have a custom set of footprints and I'd need to do it every time. HELP! Jean-Pierre! Here is some things to verify: 1 - Verify in your schematic (not in libedit) the pin number (click on a pin) A common mistake is a duplicate component in 2 different libs. Eeschema takes the first (this is a feature: lib order is significant) Be absolutely sure eeschema (not libedit) see 1 and 2 (and not A and B) as pin *numbers* 2 *DO NOT* use spaces in labels, values, references, component names ... This is not a problem in eeschema, but a *lot* of netlist formats do not accept spaces in names. I do not know the kicad version you are using. The last version replaces spaces in labels in pcbnew netlist, but it is better to avoid spaces in names. See (with a text editor) the .net file to verify what is exactly created. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Zone delimiter problem on PCBNEW.
gembler01 a écrit : This problem is reappearing in both the next-to-latest (2008-07-15 Final Win XP) and the latest version (2008-08-25 Final Win XP). In 2008-07-15 I successfully defined and filled a zone. I then deleted the zone filling and refilled the zone, without changing the zone boundary. The fill escaped the boundary and filled-in to the board edge. I tried updating to 2008-08-25 and it has the same behavior. I also tried redefining the zone boundary but this also did not work. I uploaded the 2008-07-15a-final version of kicad what solves (i hope) this problem see iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Zone delimiter problem on PCBNEW.
gembler01 a écrit : Jean-Pierre, I sent the brd file to your @inpg.fr address. Did you receive it? -Gary Yes. I am working on it. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Please add kicad document translation group to about credits-Thanks
yajeed2000 a écrit : Jean-Pierre, Here are the names of the people involved in the French to English translation of the user manual. This is a revised list. David Briscoe Rémy Halvick Boris Barbour Dominique Laigle Paul Burke Thanks. Rémy Halvick is a better contributor than Jean Dupont (a guy like John Smith) -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
[kicad-users] New Kicad Release candidate (Bug fix release).
I uploaded a new kicad (2008-08-25-RC1x) to iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ This is a bug fix release. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] New Kicad Release candidate (Bug fix release).
Brian Sidebotham a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, I have a problem with the way that via's are shown. A default via on my kicad seems to be missing the drill hole, whereas alternative via's display correctly. Is there a reason that default via's are shown this way, or is it a bug? This is present in the new release too. See menu: preferences/Display Options/Show Vias Holes And save the preferences. The Set ALL via holes to default context menu option also does not seem to work. Ok. Will be solved in the final release -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] New Kicad Release candidate (Bug fix release).
Brian Sidebotham a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, Thanks for a great package so far! Would a patch to add module position to the module properties dialog be accepted? It would be very handy to be able to type in the coordinates of some modules such as switches and connectors, etc. rather than have to position them with the mouse. Yes, no problem. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] eeschema crashes when generating netlist
Brian Sidebotham a écrit : Hi Guys, Does anyone have a debug version of eeschema? I am having problems with a project that I have just started, where eeschema is crashing when trying to save the netlist. All of my other projects don't have any trouble, but I've just started this one and it's crashing with only four components on the sheet. Files are pasted below: Your lib is missing. Send me (zipped) the 5570.cache.lib file which is the schematic library cache of your current design. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Installer is corrupted?
I removed the corrupted install file and uploaded a new one (non corrupted). -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
[kicad-users] Kicad new stable version (release candidate)
I uploaded the last stable (autoinstall for windows and a full .tgz archive for linux) release to iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ Please, note the kicad tree was modified, and it is better to remove old installs. Also note the official kicad site is (update yours links) http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/kicad/ (full install and stable versions only) and also (for snapshots, infos, news ...) http://kicad.sourceforge.net/ Sources can be found here: http://kicad.svn.sourceforge.net/ -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Postscript Output
sadkra a écrit : Hello Everyone, I just finished my first sch-pcb project in Kicad. I tried to output the pcb in Postscript format. When I looked carefully at the Postscript file, I found that some of the pads are missing /or some pads are only half drawn in bottom-copper layer while bottom-copper mask shows the complete pad-mask. I may add that gerber output of the same pcb is fine without any problems. It will be of great help if someone throws any light on this. Postscript output has a bug: after drawing oblong pads, some next drawings can be incorrectly drawn (bad size) This old bug is now solved (Postscript output will be Ok in next release, coming soon) Can you confirm you have oblong pads on your board ? Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: help in using my downloaded libraries
deaninkc a écrit : No offense taken. Believe me I develop accounting software for a living and have dealt with enough people not reading the documentation to know better. I've read and googled for hours and I seem to be overlooking this one. I don't even see a mention of a .mdc file anywhere. I'll give it another shot but I figured someone could answer in a couple minutes of their time rather than me spenting and other couple of hours looking. This is supposed to be a Community. .mdc files are created when a .mod library is edited and saved. .mdc files contains only the doc anc keywords for footprints (which is also in .mod files). They are used for a fast access to these infos (in pcbnew and cvpcb). because .mod files can be very larges, pcbnew and cvpcb uses small .mdc files to get and show doc and keywords for a given footprint when displaying the list of footprints. This allows a fast access for the footprint doc and keywords (this is very noticeable when using network installation) If they are missing, doc and keywords are not accessible. A missing .mdc file is easily rebuild: run pcbnew: in modedit select the given library load any footprint from this lib save it. the .mod and .mdc will be updated (.mdc created if not exists) -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Compile error etc.
Moses McKnight a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to compile the latest SVN code and I'm getting this error: /kicad/common/common_plot_functions.cpp:232: error: ‘WS_LICENCE’ was not declared in this scope What am I missing? Fixed. Also, I'm trying to find where to look to fix the problem I mentioned a few days ago in Linux with Arcs looking liking triangles. I.E. there is a line from each end of the Arc to the center of the circle the arc is a part of. Where should I look for that? This is a wxGTK bug, fixed in recent wxGTK releases ( = 2.7.1) For old versions, See the wxGTK patch in how-to-build-kicad.txt. in this file there is an other patch for printing. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-devel Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Is there a separate Lib Viewer/browser available ?
Renie a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, Many problems... Tortoise don't install in win98, my main machine run under win98. wxWidgets is for C language (or not?), unhappily I have old phobia to C language, things of very old years. wxWidgets is for C++ and Python languages If we are talking manner of thinking, C++ is nearer from Delphi than C. So you can forgot your old phobia. I attempt to make use of little time free in my work to make these utilities, in the place,I have Delphi avaliable, but, don't can install many extras softwares. I ill look the possibilits, Don't kow if good result! I ill attempt clear the code and push avaliable to friends! Volunteers could help you... The most important thing is ; write comments in your code. []'s Renie -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Edit the hotkey config file?
Magnus Beischer a écrit : I want to try the hotkey feature, but don't know how and can't find any documentation about it. Can anyone give me a clue or upload a hotkey template file to the files section? There is no template file, because kicad creates the template file on the fly (This allows template files be up to date which includes your hotkeys and new hotkeys when kicad changes) This is 4 steps way: 1 - Run eeschema (or pcbnew), open preferences menu and click on Create Hotkey config file. 2 - With a text editor, change hotkey values (there are comments to do that within the hotkey file: eeschema.key or pcbney.key) 3 - Rerun eeschema (better) ( or reread hotkey file in preferences menu for fast test) If no bugs, it must be work (I hope it). 4 - Write a small ( or big ) tutorial about this (under OpenOffice) and send me it. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: PCBNew Problems
Moses McKnight a écrit : Dick H. wrote: 2) Can email me your board files with exact instructions on the menu choices you use to reproduce the problem? I'm willing to spend 15 minutes on the problem, so don't blow that time with less than specific instructions please. Do I need to send the any module libraries or are the modules embedded in the board file? As I mentioned I did get a previous version to plot the files, but I'll send you the file anyhow in case you want to look at it for debugging. If not already done, send the .brd file (no other file is needed) to Dick or to me -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
[kicad-users] Kicad release candidate (kicad-2007-11-19-RC) uploaded
Due to a problem in eeschema annotation, I released a new candidate version (kicad-2007-11-29-RC2). See: iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] module numbering
dave a écrit : Dan Andersson wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 07:15:05 dave wrote: what am i doing wrong? i drew up a schematic and made a netlist and started to layout the board. i found an error and when i went back to correct it and then make a new netlist the program changed several part numbers.. so then it gave me an error when it read the new netlist in the pcb layout program. it is driving me nuts!!! am i doing something wrong or is there a problem with the program? thanks for the help dave. The pcb layout does not replace or change modules as default, you need to tick the correct box for that in the net list read window. //Dan yes. this i understand. the problem is that in the eeschema program when i make changes and a make new netlist several part numbers ie: U12, U13, U14 are changed to U055, U056, U057 in the eeschema drawing and in the net list and then in the pcb drawing and that causes the traces that were on the old parts to have no connections? something is wrong somewhere, but is it something i am doing or is there a bug in the program? When eeschema renums components like U055, U056, U057 ... this is because these components are flagged as power symbols Only power symbols (like VCC, GND ...) must be flagged power component because they are not really components, they are special symbols -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : GIPSA-LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble cedex
Re: [kicad-users] module numbering
dave a écrit : jean-pierre charras wrote: dave a écrit : Dan Andersson wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 07:15:05 dave wrote: what am i doing wrong? i drew up a schematic and made a netlist and started to layout the board. i found an error and when i went back to correct it and then make a new netlist the program changed several part numbers.. so then it gave me an error when it read the new netlist in the pcb layout program. it is driving me nuts!!! am i doing something wrong or is there a problem with the program? thanks for the help dave. The pcb layout does not replace or change modules as default, you need to tick the correct box for that in the net list read window. //Dan yes. this i understand. the problem is that in the eeschema program when i make changes and a make new netlist several part numbers ie: U12, U13, U14 are changed to U055, U056, U057 in the eeschema drawing and in the net list and then in the pcb drawing and that causes the traces that were on the old parts to have no connections? something is wrong somewhere, but is it something i am doing or is there a bug in the program? When eeschema renums components like U055, U056, U057 ... this is because these components are flagged as power symbols Only power symbols (like VCC, GND ...) must be flagged power component because they are not really components, they are special symbols where are the power symbols on the component. it is something that i put there. i don't think so. i did not have a reason as they are just more of the component on the sheet. if they are marked how do i get rid of the mark? In Libedit, edit component properties dialog, uncheck power symbol option -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
[kicad-users] Kicad release candidate (kicad-2007-11-19-RC) uploaded
A Kicad release candidate (kicad-2007-11-19-RC) was uploaded. See: iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] WinEDA_DrillFrame::GenDrillMap() : Unexpected Draw Type
barkerben a écrit : Hi - First off apologies for posting to users and developers - that was a mistake! I am getting the error listed in the subject line when I try to create a drill file for my board, however having said that the drill files do appear to be created succesfully. Does anyone know what this error means? This is an internal problem, and i suppose this is only for the drill map. Do not worry about this. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: WinEDA_DrillFrame::GenDrillMap() : Unexpected Draw Type
Cool - thanks. So the drill file that is produced is OK, and is not affected by this error? The drill file is Ok. This problem is due to drc markers on your board which are not drawn in drill map. You can remove these markers if you want. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Howto route one net on multiple layers
rangierer90 a écrit : Hello, at first let me say thank you for this great program. I think it is a highlight in the open source world. Here is my problem: I need a connection on the bottom layer and the same connection on the top layer. I need this because of high current for the tracks. When i finished to route one signal and to the same route on the other layer kicad sometimes deletes the first track and leaves the track on the other layer. Can someone give me a workaround for this problem? The Old track is (default setting) removed. This auto delete option can be disabled by the left toolbar (option toolbar) tool Disable Auto Delete old Track JP Charras
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Some questions on how to best use kicad
The answer to the problem ( how to link footprints and component) is : Use the .equ files with cvpcb and use the automatic association feature of cvpcb. A .equ file is the file which handle the component (exactly the value of a component and its footprint. (see in Cvpcb doc, the very short chapter 6) Have a look to a file like kicad/modules/smd_resistor_0805.equ or kicad/modules/smd_resistor_0603.equ and others .equ files. Such a files are easy to create and like the the smd_resistor_0805.equ and smd_resistor_0603.equ can be build from one initial file by changing (search and replace...) footprint names for alist of components. I believe this way is more powerfull than fill the footprint field in eeschema. In Cvpcb configuration You must choose (in .equ list file) the .equ file(s) you created, according to your technologie (various smd classes for resistors, resistors ... ). And after, run the automatic association tool. So it is not necessary to have many libraries for the schematic: only one is enought, whatever the smd footprints you plan to use. Just create different equ files and select the right file(s) in Cvpcb, and use the automatic association tool.. The first .equ file is a bit boring to create, but usualy the other files are faster to build. (the smd_resistor_0603.equ file was built from smd_resistor_0805.equ, using the editor text command search sm0806 and replace by sm0603) And i believe the footprint selection is not a schematic problem (when you are designing your schematic, you want a resistor, or a capacitor, or a transistor, not a part number 09 4567 A34-rev 4, not a sm0806 package or a sm0603 - rotated 90° package...) I believe the footprint selection is board design problem. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] composite layers and negative plots
barkerben a écrit : One more question (I have answered the above myself via experimentation). I got the following from Olimex, who I use to etch boards: Hi, Your gerbers contain composite layers and negative plots (G36 G37 commands). On such gerbers we can't do DRC check, panelization nor to ensure correct phototools plotting. Please ask your cad vendor how to generate your copper pour with stroke hatch filling instead composites and send your files again. Thanks G36 and G37 commands are *NOT* composite layers and negative plots. this a polygon fill command (start and end fill polygon), used to draw rectangular pads when the pad orientation is not 0, 90, 180 or 270 degrees (for instance 22.4 degrees) or trapezoidal pads. This command is a very common GERBER command... To understand the gerber rs274x format, see: http://www.artwork.com/gerber/274x/rs274x.htm -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: pcbnew 2007-07-09 crash
I have teste the board with pcbnew version 2007-07-09 (last stable version) and some other versions. I do not have any crash ans i cannot fix anything. Please can you download the pcbnew.exe from: ftp://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/kicad/winexe and test it. Perhaps there is a problem in your binary file -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Is there a way to view just one layer at a time on the screen ?
Dan a écrit : I was wondering if there is a way to view just one layer at a time on the screen ? I couldn't see where in the menu this might be. I recall seeing this feature in other tools. I was able to turn off layers to view any one separately. This is the Hight contrast mode (left toolbar, Hight contrast mode display) which shows the active layer in normal color, and others layers in dark gray color. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: PADS-PCB netlist generation?
Vignesh a écrit : Hi all, I'm also running into exactly the same problem. I am using unicode version of eeschema (2007-05-25) . I even tried running the executable from command line, it generates the following: *PADS-PCB* *PART* *END* Nothing else. I've done DRC checks and no errors, and also checked the foot print names for any illegal characters. I can export a valid pcbnew netlist, same problem as what Mathew Jr. has experienced. Please let me know if I am doing something wrong. netlist_form_pads-pcb must be launched by eeschema because: 1 - eeschema creates an intermediate netlist file (for myschema.sch , eeschema creates myschema.tmp) This file is easy to convert to an other usual netlist format. 2 - after this, netlist_form_pads-pcb is launched, read this file and create the pads-pcb netlist. Of course if myschema.tmp does not exists, the pad-pcb netlist is void... -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Error drawing arcs
kicad a écrit : Hello When I'm trying to draw arcs in the module editor they all look like cake slices IE they all show the radiuslines, same with all the components in the librarys witch contain arcs. This is a wxGTK bug (see how-to-build-kicad.txt) Last version of wxGTK does not have this bug. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG) 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Power Gnd seen as components?
richmogd a écrit : Hi All, I'm struggling to work out what I should be doing with the power and ground connections. Basically, I've been using the 3.3V power and GND power for the corresponding connection in my circuit. Each time I use one of these power, kicad asks me to annotate them, so i do. When I export the BOM, I get something like this: | PWR1 +3.3V ; ; | PWR10 GND ; ; | PWR2 GND ; ; | PWR20 +3.3V ; ; | PWR21 GND ; ; | PWR22 +3.3V ; ; | PWR23 GND ; ; | PWR24 GND ; ; | PWR25 +3.3V ; ; | PWR26 +3.3V ; ; | PWR3 GND ; ; | PWR7 +3.3V ; ; | PWR8 GND ; ; | PWR9 +3.3V ; ; Does this mean that kidcad is seeing these as separate components or does it realize that they're all the same net? Maybe it's not an issue, but I'm a bit confused on this one. Thanks, Glenn. The reference name of your powers is pwr? (pwr1, pwr2 ...) and **MUST** be #pwr? A component with a reference starting by # is *not* listed in reports or netlist. (see eeschema doc, chapter 10.8) Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Library not found
The kicad autoinstall package has a problem: Its creates a directory named KiCad, and kicad (which is case sensitive) expects a directory named kicad. Therefore kicad does not find the help files and some other files (default config files and dictionnaries) In order to avoid problems: Rename the kicad directory C:\Program Files\KiCad to C:\Program Files\kicad AND edit the desktop icon properties ( change KiCad to kicad) or: install kicad in root directory (c:\ or d:\) or download the new autoinstall archive (this bug is solved) -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex
[kicad-users] Kicad update
I have uploaded a new (stable version) : kicad-2007-01-15 -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex Web : http://www.lis.inpg.fr
[kicad-users] New kicad release candidate
I have uploaded a new kicad release candidate (kicad-2007-01-03-RC2) at: iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ Some bugs are fixed. Some new enhancements. This is the last release candidate before the stable version. -- Jean-Pierre CHARRAS Maître de conférences Directeur d'études 2ieme année. Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2 Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex Recherche : LIS - INPG 46, Avenue Félix Viallet 38031 Grenoble Cedex Web : http://www.lis.inpg.fr
