Re: [kicad-users] ProE igs file import ? (also Openmoko CAD and Schematics files)

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Shiloh


Mike Sharkey wrote:
> 
> 
> I've migrated all of my projects from eagle to KiCAD, there is nothing in
> eagle cad that I am missing. I don't do a lot of auto routing, but I tried
> the auto routing in KiCAD, and I found it to be sub optimal, unless I'm
> just not doing it right? The documentation on the subject was poor at the
> time.
> 
> My current project is four layers, fairly dense mixed signal and I'm
> having no issues with KiCAD.
> 
> The out-of-the box library is fairly minimal, however on the KiCAD yahoo
> page, there are a number of add on libraries, and there are a number of
> them scattered around the internet.
> 
> There was an eagle import tool kicking around at one point, I believe I
> still have my imported eagle cad library kicking around somewhere.
> 
> --Mike

Thanks. This is excellent feedback.

Michael


Re: [kicad-users] ProE igs file import ? (also Openmoko CAD and Schematics files)

2008-08-21 Thread Mike Sharkey
I've migrated all of my projects from eagle to KiCAD, there is nothing in
eagle cad that I am missing. I don't do a lot of auto routing, but I tried
the auto routing in KiCAD, and I found it to be sub optimal, unless I'm
just not doing it right? The documentation on the subject was poor at the
time.

My current project is four layers, fairly dense mixed signal and I'm
having no issues with KiCAD.

The out-of-the box library is fairly minimal, however on the KiCAD yahoo
page, there are a number of add on libraries, and there are a number of
them scattered around the internet.

There was an eagle import tool kicking around at one point, I believe I
still have my imported eagle cad library kicking around somewhere.

--Mike

>
> Am 21.08.2008 um 01:30 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>>
>> Hi Lothar,
>>
>> I tried the pre-compiled version of freeCAD and it worked fine. It
>> seems
>> that the program isn't feature complete, but I was able to open our
>> CAD
>> files and to rotate our parts in 3D space. Unfortunately my
>> knowledge of
>> CAD programs is about zero so I didn't really know what else to try.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that the IGES files are only the housing and internal
>> plastic bits, but not the components on the PC board.
>>
>> The schematics are indeed PDF only so far, but I will see if we can
>> provide them in kiCAD format as well (whatever that is - I'm brand new
>> here). The schematics include a page showing the component placement
>> and
>> I think the footprint, but not the 3D shape.
>>
>> Some questions I have for you: How mature is KiCad? How does it
>> compare
>> feature-wise to say Qcad or Eagle (apart from being FOSS)? How well
>> stocked is the library?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> .
>>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I cannot say anithing about it's matureness, but it runs very stable I
> think. I use it yet only for
> hobby layout. Currently I am more involved in programming with my own
> project that you could
> see on my homepage. I came from Target v3 which only was available at
> Windows.
> KICAD runs on Mac OS X and Linux too.
>
> There is a sample PCI video grabber board with 4 layers + 2 power
> supply layers I think.
> It is as complex as FR I think.
>
> I'll try to build the current version for Mac OS X, as of I haven't
> yet got it anywhere.
>
> The matureness could either be tested by the openmoko comunity and
> propably reported from
> the other members here - please report :-)
>
> Lothar
>
> --
> Lothar Behrens|Rapid Prototyping ...
> Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2   |XSLT Codegeneration
> 73252 Lenningen   |www.lollisoft.de
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: [kicad-users] ProE igs file import ? (also Openmoko CAD and Schematics files)

2008-08-21 Thread Lothar Behrens


Am 21.08.2008 um 01:30 schrieb Michael Shiloh:


Hi Lothar,

I tried the pre-compiled version of freeCAD and it worked fine. It  
seems
that the program isn't feature complete, but I was able to open our  
CAD
files and to rotate our parts in 3D space. Unfortunately my  
knowledge of

CAD programs is about zero so I didn't really know what else to try.

I'm pretty sure that the IGES files are only the housing and internal
plastic bits, but not the components on the PC board.

The schematics are indeed PDF only so far, but I will see if we can
provide them in kiCAD format as well (whatever that is - I'm brand new
here). The schematics include a page showing the component placement  
and

I think the footprint, but not the 3D shape.

Some questions I have for you: How mature is KiCad? How does it  
compare

feature-wise to say Qcad or Eagle (apart from being FOSS)? How well
stocked is the library?

Michael







.



Hi Michael,

I cannot say anithing about it's matureness, but it runs very stable I  
think. I use it yet only for
hobby layout. Currently I am more involved in programming with my own  
project that you could
see on my homepage. I came from Target v3 which only was available at  
Windows.

KICAD runs on Mac OS X and Linux too.

There is a sample PCI video grabber board with 4 layers + 2 power  
supply layers I think.

It is as complex as FR I think.

I'll try to build the current version for Mac OS X, as of I haven't  
yet got it anywhere.


The matureness could either be tested by the openmoko comunity and  
propably reported from

the other members here - please report :-)

Lothar

--
Lothar Behrens  |Rapid Prototyping ...
Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration
73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de








[kicad-users] ProE igs file import ? (also Openmoko CAD and Schematics files)

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Shiloh
Am Mittwoch, den 20.08.2008, 10:15 -0700 schrieb michael shiloh:

> Hi Lothar, Dick,
>
> I just joined this mailing list because I work at Openmoko and I want
> to know
> what FOSS is available for working with our CAD files and our
> schematics.
>
> I would also like to hear your collective advice and comments, since
> you are
> clearly the experts in this field.
>
> Currently the schematics are available only as PDF, but I imagine we
> would be
> willing to export them in a machine readable form.
>
> (The schematics, by the way, are simply in
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/)
>

Hi Michael,

I have tried the FreeCAD software to have a review to the CAD files. It
was reported in the openmoko list that it will be usable. But I tried
to compile the code. I have posted on their list a question to get
compiled the code on Debian PPC.

Here it would be interesting, if the schematics get converted, it also
would be interesting to get anyhow the CAD files converted to be used
with the KICAD 3D application.

I hope there is more in the igs than only the housing drawings. I mean
it would be good if the part's on the board used are in 3D available
too.

Lothar

>




Hi Lothar,

I tried the pre-compiled version of freeCAD and it worked fine. It seems 
that the program isn't feature complete, but I was able to open our CAD 
files and to rotate our parts in 3D space. Unfortunately my knowledge of 
CAD programs is about zero so I didn't really know what else to try.

I'm pretty sure that the IGES files are only the housing and internal 
plastic bits, but not the components on the PC board.

The schematics are indeed PDF only so far, but I will see if we can 
provide them in kiCAD format as well (whatever that is - I'm brand new 
here). The schematics include a page showing the component placement and 
I think the footprint, but not the 3D shape.

Some questions I have for you: How mature is KiCad? How does it compare 
feature-wise to say Qcad or Eagle (apart from being FOSS)? How well 
stocked is the library?

Michael