Re: [kicad-users] Re: Changing solder mask dimension?

2008-11-12 Thread Pedro Martin
Hi,

I think you are wrong.
This changes the mask clearance around vias and pads. Traces are covered by 
the mask.
It is not possible to set the mask clearance in the module editor since it is 
not a pad property, but a circuit one.
I do not know if it is possible with other programs, with Kicad we only can 
set one mask clearance for the whole circuit.

Pedro.

 If I understand correctly, this only changes the mask clearance around
 vias and traces.  I need to change the clearance around the pads in
 the module editor.
 Doug
 
 --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, bill Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I had the same problem - the PCB manufacturer said there was too
 much overlap of mask over pad.
  This can be set as follows in PCBNEW:
  Go to Dimensions (top tool bar)
  Go to Tracks and Vias
  Set Mask clearance as required (I used 0.004 and PCB manufacturer
 is happy with that)
  Bill
  UCT
  
   Pedro Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2008 06:22 PM 
  
  Hi,
  
  Dimensions-Tracks and vias - Mask clearance
  
  Regards,
  Pedro.
  
   Maybe I missed this in the documentation, but I can't figure out
 how to
   change the solder mask opening size.
   
   I am laying out a 4 bump chip scale package and the default mask
 opening
   is too large. How do I change this dimension?
   
   Regards,
   Doug Deeds
   Forthright Solutions
   817 230 4483
   
  
 
 
 




Re: [kicad-users] Re: Changing solder mask dimension?

2008-11-12 Thread Pedro Martin
Hi Doug,

Why edit every pin each time you use the IC?

The only 2 parametres needed are clearance, i.e. minimum gap between tracks 
and so, and mask clearance for minimum solder gap.

Since these 2 parametres depend on the manufacturer technology, it is 
reasonable to think they shoul be unique for the whole pcb.

The only possible case for specific pad editing is the case that the pad metal 
area should be bigger than the solder paste area. And this is an unusual 
case.

For BGAs I have used a round one side pad, no problem at all. In this case I 
set the mask clearance to 0.0991 mm or 0.0039 inch.

Regards,
Pedro.

 This seems to be a poor way to do this since any time I use this IC I
 will have to manually edit each pin.  Luckily this particular one only
 has 4 pins.  And since there is no way to visibly detect changes in
 PCBnew you have to check each pin in a Gerber viewer.
 
 Since you have both done this, what is your opinion on how a fix
 should be implemented?  I think the module editor should implement
 this.  I initially was thinking that the editor should just allow you
 to change the mask clearance.  But I am wondering if also allowing
 another type of pad BGA would make better sense.




[kicad-users] Re: Changing solder mask dimension?

2008-11-11 Thread Doug Deeds
If I understand correctly, this only changes the mask clearance around
vias and traces.  I need to change the clearance around the pads in
the module editor.
Doug

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, bill Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,
 I had the same problem - the PCB manufacturer said there was too
much overlap of mask over pad.
 This can be set as follows in PCBNEW:
 Go to Dimensions (top tool bar)
 Go to Tracks and Vias
 Set Mask clearance as required (I used 0.004 and PCB manufacturer
is happy with that)
 Bill
 UCT
 
  Pedro Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2008 06:22 PM 
 
 Hi,
 
 Dimensions-Tracks and vias - Mask clearance
 
 Regards,
 Pedro.
 
  Maybe I missed this in the documentation, but I can't figure out
how to
  change the solder mask opening size.
  
  I am laying out a 4 bump chip scale package and the default mask
opening
  is too large. How do I change this dimension?
  
  Regards,
  Doug Deeds
  Forthright Solutions
  817 230 4483