Re: [Koha] indexing and cronjobs

2012-12-18 Thread Tom Obrien
Hi,
I am new to Koha and need some help. have installed koha 3.10 on ubuntu
server 12. 04 using packages. Indexing is now working. Kindly advice me on
how i should set cronjobs. should i set it under crontab -e or
/etc/cront.d/koha-common?
Secondly can somebody help with tested cronjobs which i can use.
Thanks in advance.
Tom
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Re: [Koha] Apache bad username

2012-12-18 Thread Marty
Thanks, that seemed the thing to do, just start over again. 





 From: Nguyen Quoc Uy nguyenquocuy_1...@yahoo.com
To: ontariowol...@yahoo.com ontariowol...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:25:17 PM
Subject: Re:Apache bad username
 
What OS are you using? Debian or centos...? I think your problem is because of 
wrong configuration apache before. You should remove apache and all its 
configurations then install a fresh apache2. 
If u are using debian, ubuntu, you can check for koha packages install on 
ubuntu, it's an easies way, i think. Here is some command if u can't reinstall 
your Os.

$ Sudo apt-get removeĀ  - -purge apache2 apache2.2-common
This will remove all configurations file, maybe remove koha , and mail server. 
Be warning about this.
Next $ sudo apt-get autoremove
This clear all another dependence program and their config files.

Next try reinstall apache again. Hope this help! And should not install as 
root, just add user and give him full admin privileges. But even with root, it 
should work!

Best regards!
Nguyen Quoc Uy
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Re: [Koha] indexing and cronjobs

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Dearden
Hi Tom,

I recently did an install from the packages and I find the cronjobs in three 
places: /etc/cron.d/koha-common , /etc/cron.hourly/koha-common , and 
/etc/cron.daily/koha-common .  I think you will find what you are looking for 
in those three files.

Best,

Doug

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To: koha
Subject: Re: [Koha] indexing and cronjobs

Hi,
I am new to Koha and need some help. have installed koha 3.10 on ubuntu
server 12. 04 using packages. Indexing is now working. Kindly advice me on
how i should set cronjobs. should i set it under crontab -e or
/etc/cront.d/koha-common?
Secondly can somebody help with tested cronjobs which i can use.
Thanks in advance.
Tom
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[Koha] how to use marc records displayed on library web pages?

2012-12-18 Thread X Middleton
I do a fair bit of cataloging for a small library that has a lot of
old/rare books, though I am an amateur librarian. I often use worldcat to
find a library that has a copy of our uncatalogued book (when I can't find
any z39.50 accessible sources). These libraries often have an option to
display a MARC record. Is there some way to get such a display into Koha
besides manually copy/pasting bits and pieces into a new MARC record?

For example:
http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/find/Record/.b3780640/Details#tabnav

Copying and pasting the displayed record into a text file and trying to
import it via stage for import does not work. I notice that Library of
Congress has an option to download MARC records for its items, which can be
'staged for import without a problem. Looking a the contents of the LoC
downloaded MARC file, it looks almost nothing like the ones displayed by
libraries which don't have a download option.

I've searched the web (i think) exhaustively for clues as to how to
actually handle or convert these display marc records into something
usable (something that looks like the LoC downloaded MARC records), but
with not success. I've installed and attempted to use MarcEdit and IsisMarc
hoping they might have some functionality to convert/transform this data...
but no luck.

It just seems crazy that there's all this info out there, and I can't find
any way to use it beyond the crudest (but better than nothing!) methods of
cherry picking.

What am I missing?
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Re: [Koha] how to use marc records displayed on library web pages?

2012-12-18 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
X,

I do a fair bit of cataloging for a small library that has a lot of
 old/rare books, though I am an amateur librarian. I often use worldcat to
 find a library that has a copy of our uncatalogued book (when I can't find
 any z39.50 accessible sources). These libraries often have an option to
 display a MARC record. Is there some way to get such a display into Koha
 besides manually copy/pasting bits and pieces into a new MARC record?


Not easily if they do not provide a Z39.50 server or raw MARC record
download. What you are seeing when looking at the MARC view is a
representation of the MARC format that has been designed to be easily
readable for humans. MARC records are actually (usually, anyway) stored in
the binary format that LC provides their records in.


 For example:
 http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/find/Record/.b3780640/Details#tabnav

 Copying and pasting the displayed record into a text file and trying to
 import it via stage for import does not work. I notice that Library of
 Congress has an option to download MARC records for its items, which can be
 'staged for import without a problem. Looking a the contents of the LoC
 downloaded MARC file, it looks almost nothing like the ones displayed by
 libraries which don't have a download option.

 I've searched the web (i think) exhaustively for clues as to how to
 actually handle or convert these display marc records into something
 usable (something that looks like the LoC downloaded MARC records), but
 with not success. I've installed and attempted to use MarcEdit and IsisMarc
 hoping they might have some functionality to convert/transform this data...
 but no luck.

 It just seems crazy that there's all this info out there, and I can't find
 any way to use it beyond the crudest (but better than nothing!) methods of
 cherry picking.

 What am I missing?


Most libraries that use copy from libraries other than their national
library use OCLC or Skyriver (or a similar union database) for obtaining
records. It would be possible to write screen scrapers to harvest MARC data
from OPACs, but since there is no standard formatting, you would need at
the very least a screen scraper per ILS, if not a screen scraper per
catalog to cope with minor customizations made by various libraries.

Regards,
Jared

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Bibliographer, C  P Bibliography Services, LLC
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[Koha] Importing records from Koha 3.01 into 4.02

2012-12-18 Thread David M. Bucknell

Dear Koha Friends,

We have tried to bring the records in by two methods, first to point  
at the old database when installing 4.02; secondly, to do a fresh  
installation and then using tools  marc staging to import the files  
already exported from the old system.


The first installation seems to work, but searching finds no records.
Using the second method, we can see a list of records, but only one of  
them (the first one) has a Bib number and after clicking on Import  
the progress bar never advances.


Sorry for such a clueless question.  Does anyone have some clues for us?

We are using Marc 21, by the way.

Thank you,

David
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Re: [Koha] Importing records from Koha 3.01 into 4.02

2012-12-18 Thread Indranil Das Gupta
David,

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:15 PM, David M. Bucknell
da...@intknowledge.comwrote:

 Dear Koha Friends,

 We have tried to bring the records in by two methods, first to point at
 the old database when installing 4.02; secondly, to do a fresh installation
 and then using tools  marc staging to import the files already exported
 from the old system.


4.02?

There isn't a of Koha out with that number yet.

The latest stable is 3.10.x and work is getting underway for 3.12.x

hope that helps

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Re: [Koha] Importing records from Koha 3.01 into 4.02

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Dearden
David,

Judging by the version number I think you got the proprietary fork from 
Liblime.  I would suggest you install the oldstable release from 
koha-community.org.  Instructions can be found here: 
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 

If you are not installing on Debian or one of its variants (like Ubuntu), there 
are installation instructions for other linux distros on the wiki here: 
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Installation 

Hope that helps,

Doug

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On Behalf Of David M. Bucknell
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:45 AM
To: Koha
Subject: [Koha] Importing records from Koha 3.01 into 4.02

Dear Koha Friends,

We have tried to bring the records in by two methods, first to point  
at the old database when installing 4.02; secondly, to do a fresh  
installation and then using tools  marc staging to import the files  
already exported from the old system.

The first installation seems to work, but searching finds no records.
Using the second method, we can see a list of records, but only one of  
them (the first one) has a Bib number and after clicking on Import  
the progress bar never advances.

Sorry for such a clueless question.  Does anyone have some clues for us?

We are using Marc 21, by the way.

Thank you,

David
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Thailand: 084 329 1183; 02 693 8144
Outside Thailand: +66 84 329 1183 (cell); +66 2 693 8144


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Re: [Koha] how to use marc records displayed on library web pages?

2012-12-18 Thread X Middleton
Thanks, Jared, for confirming my suspicions. It still seems weird to me how
many library interfaces display MARC and don't provide a machine-usable
format. It's better than nothing though, I suppose. At least Koha isn't one
of these systems -- Koha provides so many options for downloading records
it's an embarrassment of riches!

I also received a reply from someone (who doesn't seem to have CC'd the
list?) who reported they copied and pasted the example link I provided into
MarcEdit, and after a bit of manual re-formatting to remove subfield
markers (I presume the | characters) and possibly adjust some spacing they
were able compile the text to an importable MARC record. (They kindly
attached the result for me.) To duplicate this prodigious feat, I guess I'd
need to do some more research on the MARC format acceptable to MarcEdit...
it would be handy to know how to do.



On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Jared Camins-Esakov 
jcam...@cpbibliography.com wrote:

 X,

 I do a fair bit of cataloging for a small library that has a lot of
 old/rare books, though I am an amateur librarian. I often use worldcat to
 find a library that has a copy of our uncatalogued book (when I can't find
 any z39.50 accessible sources). These libraries often have an option to
 display a MARC record. Is there some way to get such a display into Koha
 besides manually copy/pasting bits and pieces into a new MARC record?


 Not easily if they do not provide a Z39.50 server or raw MARC record
 download. What you are seeing when looking at the MARC view is a
 representation of the MARC format that has been designed to be easily
 readable for humans. MARC records are actually (usually, anyway) stored in
 the binary format that LC provides their records in.


 For example:
 http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/find/Record/.b3780640/Details#tabnav

 Copying and pasting the displayed record into a text file and trying to
 import it via stage for import does not work. I notice that Library of
 Congress has an option to download MARC records for its items, which can
 be
 'staged for import without a problem. Looking a the contents of the LoC
 downloaded MARC file, it looks almost nothing like the ones displayed by
 libraries which don't have a download option.

 I've searched the web (i think) exhaustively for clues as to how to
 actually handle or convert these display marc records into something
 usable (something that looks like the LoC downloaded MARC records), but
 with not success. I've installed and attempted to use MarcEdit and
 IsisMarc
 hoping they might have some functionality to convert/transform this
 data...
 but no luck.

 It just seems crazy that there's all this info out there, and I can't find
 any way to use it beyond the crudest (but better than nothing!) methods of
 cherry picking.

 What am I missing?


 Most libraries that use copy from libraries other than their national
 library use OCLC or Skyriver (or a similar union database) for obtaining
 records. It would be possible to write screen scrapers to harvest MARC data
 from OPACs, but since there is no standard formatting, you would need at
 the very least a screen scraper per ILS, if not a screen scraper per
 catalog to cope with minor customizations made by various libraries.

 Regards,
 Jared

 --
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 Bibliographer, C  P Bibliography Services, LLC
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Re: [Koha] how to use marc records displayed on library web pages?

2012-12-18 Thread Jane Cothron
Hi--
Apologies for not copying to the entire list.  MarcEdit is a freely
available text editor for MARC records which will also compile records into
MARC.  There are several tutorials available (
http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/tutorials.html).
Best--
Jane Cothron
Chinook Library Network
Newport, Oregon

P.S.  The default marker used in MarcEdit for subfields is the $ and
fields are indicated by = instead of the pipe |.  This variation seems
to vary by software program.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:33 PM, X Middleton x...@vaults.ca wrote:

 Thanks, Jared, for confirming my suspicions. It still seems weird to me how
 many library interfaces display MARC and don't provide a machine-usable
 format. It's better than nothing though, I suppose. At least Koha isn't one
 of these systems -- Koha provides so many options for downloading records
 it's an embarrassment of riches!

 I also received a reply from someone (who doesn't seem to have CC'd the
 list?) who reported they copied and pasted the example link I provided into
 MarcEdit, and after a bit of manual re-formatting to remove subfield
 markers (I presume the | characters) and possibly adjust some spacing they
 were able compile the text to an importable MARC record. (They kindly
 attached the result for me.) To duplicate this prodigious feat, I guess I'd
 need to do some more research on the MARC format acceptable to MarcEdit...
 it would be handy to know how to do.



 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Jared Camins-Esakov 
 jcam...@cpbibliography.com wrote:

  X,
 
  I do a fair bit of cataloging for a small library that has a lot of
  old/rare books, though I am an amateur librarian. I often use worldcat
 to
  find a library that has a copy of our uncatalogued book (when I can't
 find
  any z39.50 accessible sources). These libraries often have an option to
  display a MARC record. Is there some way to get such a display into Koha
  besides manually copy/pasting bits and pieces into a new MARC record?
 
 
  Not easily if they do not provide a Z39.50 server or raw MARC record
  download. What you are seeing when looking at the MARC view is a
  representation of the MARC format that has been designed to be easily
  readable for humans. MARC records are actually (usually, anyway) stored
 in
  the binary format that LC provides their records in.
 
 
  For example:
  http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/find/Record/.b3780640/Details#tabnav
 
  Copying and pasting the displayed record into a text file and trying to
  import it via stage for import does not work. I notice that Library of
  Congress has an option to download MARC records for its items, which can
  be
  'staged for import without a problem. Looking a the contents of the LoC
  downloaded MARC file, it looks almost nothing like the ones displayed by
  libraries which don't have a download option.
 
  I've searched the web (i think) exhaustively for clues as to how to
  actually handle or convert these display marc records into something
  usable (something that looks like the LoC downloaded MARC records), but
  with not success. I've installed and attempted to use MarcEdit and
  IsisMarc
  hoping they might have some functionality to convert/transform this
  data...
  but no luck.
 
  It just seems crazy that there's all this info out there, and I can't
 find
  any way to use it beyond the crudest (but better than nothing!) methods
 of
  cherry picking.
 
  What am I missing?
 
 
  Most libraries that use copy from libraries other than their national
  library use OCLC or Skyriver (or a similar union database) for obtaining
  records. It would be possible to write screen scrapers to harvest MARC
 data
  from OPACs, but since there is no standard formatting, you would need at
  the very least a screen scraper per ILS, if not a screen scraper per
  catalog to cope with minor customizations made by various libraries.
 
  Regards,
  Jared
 
  --
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  Bibliographer, C  P Bibliography Services, LLC
  (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445
  (e-mail) jcam...@cpbibliography.com
  (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/
 
 
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