Re: [Koha] E noho rā, Koha

[Fridolin SOMERS]

Hie,

What a big news.

Simply thanks for all your fantastic job on Koha.
I hope you will enjoy Amsterdam.
The weather will be quite different but I know people are amazing, don't 
be scared with there strange language ;)


See you maybe one day in Marseille.

Best regards,

Le 19/11/2015 03:33, Robin Sheat a écrit :

Hi, Koha folks.

Tomorrow is my last day at Catalyst, and the end of my last week in New
Zealand.

 From December, I'm starting a new job that is located only 1,450km
distance from as far away as it is possible to get from Wellington on
earth. That is, in Amsterdam*.

It's been a pleasure meeting those of you that I've met, emailing and
IRCing those that I haven't, and I'm sure you'll all keep the project
heading on its current course to taking over the world :)

Interesting note: my first commit was on April 20th, 2010, signed off by
Galen, who has happily taken over my package manager role with almost no
blackmai^Wbriber^Wconvincing needed.

I'll probably still be lurking in IRC though, just in a quite different
timezone to what it was, and skimming emails trying not to answer them.

Ka kite anō au i a koutou,



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[Koha] Editor forcing Default fields into other frameworks

[Elaine Bradtke]

I don't know if this is a new quirk, or I just haven't noticed it before.

I was looking at a bibliogrpahic record that was in the wrong framework
(Default, when it should have been Serials).   I switched the view to
Serials framework and it looked fine. Then I opened the record for
editing.  It switched back to the Default framework, and added some fields
we don't use in serials.  One of these is marked as required. I changed the
framework back to serials, and tried to save it, but the required field
from the Default framework (blank because there is no information to go in
this field for Serials) caused it to throw up an error message and it would
not save. I can't delete the field either. This means I can't change the
framework associated with the record.

Testing it with other items -Editing any record that is in the Default
framework will force (empty) Default framework fields into the record even
after  you change the framework. There is no information in these fields in
the original record. If the field is mandatory in Default it will become
mandatory in the new framework, even if it doesn't actually exist in that
framework.

Any thoughts? Should I file a bug? I am (only just) restraining myself from
turning off the mandatory status of the field in the Default framework,
only because we're not supposed to edit it.

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Re: [Koha] Editor forcing Default fields into other frameworks

[Elaine Bradtke]

I should say this is a problem for new records. When we go to add a new
record, it opens in the Default framework and changing frameworks does not
remove the mandatory fields that aren't used in that framework.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Elaine Bradtke  wrote:

> I don't know if this is a new quirk, or I just haven't noticed it before.
>
> I was looking at a bibliogrpahic record that was in the wrong framework
> (Default, when it should have been Serials).   I switched the view to
> Serials framework and it looked fine. Then I opened the record for
> editing.  It switched back to the Default framework, and added some fields
> we don't use in serials.  One of these is marked as required. I changed the
> framework back to serials, and tried to save it, but the required field
> from the Default framework (blank because there is no information to go in
> this field for Serials) caused it to throw up an error message and it would
> not save. I can't delete the field either. This means I can't change the
> framework associated with the record.
>
> Testing it with other items -Editing any record that is in the Default
> framework will force (empty) Default framework fields into the record even
> after  you change the framework. There is no information in these fields in
> the original record. If the field is mandatory in Default it will become
> mandatory in the new framework, even if it doesn't actually exist in that
> framework.
>
> Any thoughts? Should I file a bug? I am (only just) restraining myself
> from turning off the mandatory status of the field in the Default
> framework, only because we're not supposed to edit it.
>
> --
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> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
> Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally,
> send an e-mail first. I work off site)
> --
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> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
> ---
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> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>



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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[BWS Johnson]

Salvete!


> The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
> libraries located within the United States to host its third annual meeting
> held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
> instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.

> 


At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that this 
body has taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of Libraries, 
Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not fit your group's 
stringent United States centric viewpoint. I am also continually saddened that 
this body will only consider meeting in early August. It is further too bad 
that you all charge fees for your meeting. The three of these problems in 
combination send a strong repeated message that inclusivity is not an aim of 
your organisation, whether that be a valid conclusion to draw or no. I do so 
hope that at some point in future, this group might reconsider any or all of 
those matters.


Cheers,
Brooke
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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[Paul A]

At 08:19 PM 11/19/2015 +, BWS Johnson wrote:

Salvete!
> The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
> libraries located within the United States to host its third annual meeting
> held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
> instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.
At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that 
this body has taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of 
Libraries, Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not 
fit your group's stringent United States centric viewpoint. I am also 
continually saddened that this body will only consider meeting in early 
August. It is further too bad that you all charge fees for your meeting. 
The three of these problems in combination send a strong repeated message 
that inclusivity is not an aim of your organisation, whether that be a 
valid conclusion to draw or no. I do so hope that at some point in 
future, this group might reconsider any or all of those matters.


In 1812, the "Americans" (17 States) thought they could just march into 
Canada and take over. As Tom Lehrer used to sing: "they've hardly bothered 
us since then..."


Best -- Paul 


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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[glaws]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America -> With respect, in turn,
the right hand column specifically says "Countries 23", with a link to
those 23:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_North_America.

The list of 45 includes territories.

Greg
-

On 11/19/2015 04:32 PM, Paul A wrote:
> At 03:40 PM 11/19/2015 -0600, glaws wrote:
>> Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
>> to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
>> States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
>> a felony warranting a call-to-arms.
>
> Very respectfully,  lists
> 45 countries (colourful table about 20% down the page)[1] including
> what "old-fashioned me" used to call "Central America" and "the
> Caribbean." North America is, at the very least, Canada, the USA, St
> Pierre et Miquelon and Greenland.
>
> The phrase "Koha North America User's Group would like to invite
> agencies and libraries located within the United States to host its
> third annual meeting" is *NOT* a "linguistic peccadillo", it is an
> explicitly discriminatory invitation.
>
> Paul
> [1] Including, btw, La Navasse which is seen by most historians as an
> anomalous US land-grab under the Guano Islands Act of 1856 which
> allows the US President to "consider as appertaining to the United
> States" any piece of real estate covered in ... guano.
>
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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[Paul A]

At 04:42 PM 11/19/2015 -0600, glaws wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America -> With respect, in turn,
the right hand column specifically says "Countries 23", with a link to
those 23:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_North_America.

The list of 45 includes territories.


"territories"? "sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_North_America"?

Linguistic pecadillo?

Koha North America User's Group ==> Koha USA User's Group

As a Canadian, I'm out of this conversation.

Paul




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On 11/19/2015 04:32 PM, Paul A wrote:
> At 03:40 PM 11/19/2015 -0600, glaws wrote:
>> Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
>> to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
>> States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
>> a felony warranting a call-to-arms.
>
> Very respectfully,  lists
> 45 countries (colourful table about 20% down the page)[1] including
> what "old-fashioned me" used to call "Central America" and "the
> Caribbean." North America is, at the very least, Canada, the USA, St
> Pierre et Miquelon and Greenland.
>
> The phrase "Koha North America User's Group would like to invite
> agencies and libraries located within the United States to host its
> third annual meeting" is *NOT* a "linguistic peccadillo", it is an
> explicitly discriminatory invitation.
>
> Paul
> [1] Including, btw, La Navasse which is seen by most historians as an
> anomalous US land-grab under the Guano Islands Act of 1856 which
> allows the US President to "consider as appertaining to the United
> States" any piece of real estate covered in ... guano.
>
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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[Bob Birchall]

As a total outsider, I did have a wry smile about a group calling itself 
North American insisting its meeting venue be within the US. But I 
should let the Mexicans and Canadians speak for themselves, of course.  
In general, any forum that facilitates the coming together of Koha users 
to share experience and ideas is to be encouraged. I'd guess that's the 
context of Brooke's points about fees and August - just making it as 
easy as possible for folks to join in.

Congratulations on your initiative and best wishes for future gatherings.
Bob


On 20/11/15 08:40, glaws wrote:

Brooke:

A. Inclusiveness

So are you saying that there can only be one worldwide Koha group, and
that there cannot be national or regional level Koha groups and
corresponding meetings?

Do you presume that anyone from outside North America would be unwelcome
at a North America/United States meeting?

Would it be appropriate for the NA/USA group to openly solicit
world-wide attendance, and possibly seem to be competing with World KohaCon?

There may be topics of interest only to US organizations, like eRate,
LSTA grants and US laws, like privacy legislation, that may be important
and need to be discussed but which may be avoided in an effort to be
inclusive of other countries attendees if those were many.

Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
a felony warranting a call-to-arms.

B. Time of Meeting

I don't think meeting in a particular month carries the same weight of
concern as your first point about inclusiveness, or even your last about
attendance fees.

C. Attendance Fees

Libraries, few in the US rich, don't always have good conference rooms,
especially if there are conference break-out sessions. That may mean
renting some hotel meeting room space for $1,000 a day. If it requires a
$20 charge per person to get some good facilities I think that's reasonable.

I have always, albeit typically privately, supported the idea of a
reasonable attendance fee. I greatly appreciate it when a hosting
organization provides coffee, maybe juice, and pastries for breakfast so
that I don't have to run all over a hotel in the morning trying to find
the $5 coffee and $4 donuts, being late for the inaugural address, and
spilling now-cold coffee all over the nice lady in the row in front of
me as I say "excuse-me, excuse-me" as I trip over people trying to get
to the only open seat in the middle of the row in the middle of the
room. Having coffee and donuts provided at the event is worth some coin
to me and something more to the ex-nice lady soaked in cold vanilla
hazelnut coffee which clashes terribly with her /parfum du jour/.



Greg

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On 11/19/2015 02:19 PM, BWS Johnson wrote:

Salvete!



The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
libraries located within the United States to host its third annual meeting
held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.

 At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that this body has 
taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of Libraries, 
Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not fit your group's stringent 
United States centric viewpoint. I am also continually saddened that this body will only 
consider meeting in early August. It is further too bad that you all charge fees for your 
meeting. The three of these problems in combination send a strong repeated message that 
inclusivity is not an aim of your organisation, whether that be a valid conclusion to 
draw or no. I do so hope that at some point in future, this group might reconsider any or 
all of those matters.


Cheers,
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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[glaws]

Brooke:

A. Inclusiveness

So are you saying that there can only be one worldwide Koha group, and
that there cannot be national or regional level Koha groups and
corresponding meetings?

Do you presume that anyone from outside North America would be unwelcome
at a North America/United States meeting?

Would it be appropriate for the NA/USA group to openly solicit
world-wide attendance, and possibly seem to be competing with World KohaCon?

There may be topics of interest only to US organizations, like eRate,
LSTA grants and US laws, like privacy legislation, that may be important
and need to be discussed but which may be avoided in an effort to be
inclusive of other countries attendees if those were many.

Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
a felony warranting a call-to-arms.

B. Time of Meeting

I don't think meeting in a particular month carries the same weight of
concern as your first point about inclusiveness, or even your last about
attendance fees.

C. Attendance Fees

Libraries, few in the US rich, don't always have good conference rooms,
especially if there are conference break-out sessions. That may mean
renting some hotel meeting room space for $1,000 a day. If it requires a
$20 charge per person to get some good facilities I think that's reasonable.

I have always, albeit typically privately, supported the idea of a
reasonable attendance fee. I greatly appreciate it when a hosting
organization provides coffee, maybe juice, and pastries for breakfast so
that I don't have to run all over a hotel in the morning trying to find
the $5 coffee and $4 donuts, being late for the inaugural address, and
spilling now-cold coffee all over the nice lady in the row in front of
me as I say "excuse-me, excuse-me" as I trip over people trying to get
to the only open seat in the middle of the row in the middle of the
room. Having coffee and donuts provided at the event is worth some coin
to me and something more to the ex-nice lady soaked in cold vanilla
hazelnut coffee which clashes terribly with her /parfum du jour/.



Greg

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On 11/19/2015 02:19 PM, BWS Johnson wrote:
> Salvete!
>
>
>> The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
>> libraries located within the United States to host its third annual meeting
>> held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
>> instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.
>
> At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that this 
> body has taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of 
> Libraries, Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not fit 
> your group's stringent United States centric viewpoint. I am also continually 
> saddened that this body will only consider meeting in early August. It is 
> further too bad that you all charge fees for your meeting. The three of these 
> problems in combination send a strong repeated message that inclusivity is 
> not an aim of your organisation, whether that be a valid conclusion to draw 
> or no. I do so hope that at some point in future, this group might reconsider 
> any or all of those matters.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Brooke
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Re: [Koha] Fwd: RFP: 3rd NAKUG/KohaNA meeting

[Paul A]

At 03:40 PM 11/19/2015 -0600, glaws wrote:

Concession: there is sometimes, and possibly in this case, the tendency
to equate North America (23 countries per Wikipedia) with the United
States. That is more a careless, linguistic peccadillo, I suggest, than
a felony warranting a call-to-arms.


Very respectfully,  lists 45 
countries (colourful table about 20% down the page)[1] including what 
"old-fashioned me" used to call "Central America" and "the Caribbean." 
North America is, at the very least, Canada, the USA, St Pierre et Miquelon 
and Greenland.


The phrase "Koha North America User's Group would like to invite agencies 
and libraries located within the United States to host its third annual 
meeting" is *NOT* a "linguistic peccadillo", it is an explicitly 
discriminatory invitation.


Paul
[1] Including, btw, La Navasse which is seen by most historians as an 
anomalous US land-grab under the Guano Islands Act of 1856 which allows the 
US President to "consider as appertaining to the United States" any piece 
of real estate covered in ... guano.




B. Time of Meeting

I don't think meeting in a particular month carries the same weight of
concern as your first point about inclusiveness, or even your last about
attendance fees.

C. Attendance Fees

Libraries, few in the US rich, don't always have good conference rooms,
especially if there are conference break-out sessions. That may mean
renting some hotel meeting room space for $1,000 a day. If it requires a
$20 charge per person to get some good facilities I think that's reasonable.

I have always, albeit typically privately, supported the idea of a
reasonable attendance fee. I greatly appreciate it when a hosting
organization provides coffee, maybe juice, and pastries for breakfast so
that I don't have to run all over a hotel in the morning trying to find
the $5 coffee and $4 donuts, being late for the inaugural address, and
spilling now-cold coffee all over the nice lady in the row in front of
me as I say "excuse-me, excuse-me" as I trip over people trying to get
to the only open seat in the middle of the row in the middle of the
room. Having coffee and donuts provided at the event is worth some coin
to me and something more to the ex-nice lady soaked in cold vanilla
hazelnut coffee which clashes terribly with her /parfum du jour/.



Greg

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On 11/19/2015 02:19 PM, BWS Johnson wrote:
> Salvete!
>
>
>> The Koha North America User’s Group would like to invite agencies and
>> libraries located within the United States to host its third annual 
meeting

>> held in early August, 2016. This meeting offers participants two days of
>> instructional sessions and presentations, followed by a two day hackfest.
>
> At risk of beating a dead horse, I am once again disappointed that 
this body has taken up the mantle of "North America". There are plenty of 
Libraries, Organisations, and Agencies within North America that do not 
fit your group's stringent United States centric viewpoint. I am also 
continually saddened that this body will only consider meeting in early 
August. It is further too bad that you all charge fees for your meeting. 
The three of these problems in combination send a strong repeated message 
that inclusivity is not an aim of your organisation, whether that be a 
valid conclusion to draw or no. I do so hope that at some point in 
future, this group might reconsider any or all of those matters.

>
>
> Cheers,
> Brooke
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[Koha] Repost: Call for KohaCon17 hosting proposals

[MJ Ray]

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 from: ★ Thomas Dukleth 
 date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:24:00 -

Anyone who would like to host KohaCon17 (international Koha conference
to be held in 2017) should add some brief information about their
proposal to the proposals summary table in the page on the Koha Wiki
which I have prepared following the model used for previous KohaCons,
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals .

Please link your summary proposal to a more detailed proposal preferably
in a new page on the Koha wiki or alternately hosted on your own webserver.

If you have submitted a proposal for hosting KohaCon in the past but had
not been selected, please submit a new proposal if you are interested in
hosting KohaCon17.  Do not be discouraged that some other proposal had
been selected over yours in some previous year.  People from the
Philippenes had again submitted a KohaCon proposal before the general
KohaCon17 page was created and I have now moved that merely tabular form
content which had used the form of the general KohaCon proposals page to
the newly created general KohaCon17 Proposals page.  Such persistence of
pursuing a KohaCon proposal should be encouraged.  [In the interest of
promoting regional diversity in Koha, we have sometimes considered rules
against selecting KohaCon proposals from the same region successively in
case the most populous regions might come to excessively dominate voting
for selecting a proposal, but in practise such rules may not have yet
been necessary.]

Anyone should be free to add additional relevant information to proposal
information in the wiki, such as links and information for local hotel
or other accommodations, attractions, etc.  We want whatever information
may be helpful for linking to a community wide ballot for selecting a
particular proposal.

As with all wiki content, it should be easy enough to edit by examining
the form in which pre-existing content has been entered, when editing to
add your own content.  If you want more information about MediaWiki
tables, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables .


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[Koha] Importing Journals from .txt format

[Balaji Ravichandran]

Hi,

I have exported the Journal database from *Libsys 4 *in *.txt *format and
now I'm trying to import it into Koha.Can anyone help me out in this? I
have already done the migration process from *.ar2 *format using
*MarcEdit *tool.But
I cannot figure out how to do in this.Please help.I am using *Koha 3.20.*

Thank You !!!


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Re: [Koha] Best way to catalog serials

[Hernandez, Heather]

Hello!

We usually have one bibliographic record for a serial title, with the items
for each separate issue (or bound volume) attached.  We will make a
separate bibliographic record, sometimes, for a special issue on a theme,
but it will usually be an analytic record.  We usually make the decision
based on subject access:  a majority of the issues of a serial are really
about the same general subject, so do fine on the same record for that
serial title.  If each issue were on a separate bibliographic record, with
generally the same subject headings, then it might be difficult to find a
particular issue when searching by title, too.  When there is a special
issue all about a particular subject, then that gets a separate analytic
record to bring out those subjects.  (We will also create an analytic
record for an article of particular interest, too.)

I hope this is helpful!  Cheers,
Heather
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Heather Hernandez
Technical Services Librarian
San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center
415-561-7032, heather_hernan...@nps.gov
http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/museum-collections.htm

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