Re: [Koha] Wiki certificate

2016-01-30 Thread Mirko Tietgen 
Hi,

Paul A schrieb am 30.01.2016

> It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never 
> work on WinXP

No, it won't. XP was dead before LE was born. It will probably not
work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids.

Wikipedia[1] says

> On April 14, 2009, Windows XP exited mainstream support and
> entered the Extended Support phase; […] Extended support ended on
> April 8, 2014, over 12 years since the release of XP; normally
> Microsoft products have a support life cycle of only 10
> years.[118] Beyond the final security updates released on April
> 8, no more security patches or support information are provided
> for XP free-of-charge; "critical patches" will still be created,
> and made available only to customers subscribing to a paid
> "Custom Support" plan

I don't know how much money you would have to put into the paid
"Custom Plan" for something like this to happen, but since the rest
of the world does not have a paid "Support Win XP forever" plan,
it's not really their problem either.

If XP still works for you, cool. If it does not, well, there have
been a few new versions now to choose an upgrade from. Or switch to
GNU/Linux, I hear it's quite good.

-- Mirko


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#End_of_support



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Re: [Koha] Wiki certificate

2016-01-30 Thread Paul A 

At 12:03 PM 1/29/2016 -0500, Owen Leonard wrote:
> Thanks Chris, but... it is the latest version of Opera (34, both .deb 
and win)


When I check Opera 34 on Windows I see no SSL error.


Solved -- or at least I've maybe got to the bottom of this. I now have 
Opera running on Ubuntu, Debian and Mint desktops, by forcing the following 
certs:

* ISRG Root X1
* Let's Encrypt Authority X1 (IdenTrust cross-signed)
* Let's Encrypt Authority X2 (IdenTrust cross-signed)
* DST Root CA X3

It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never work on WinXP 
(we still have three work spaces, unfortunately) except with Firefox (so 
Opera, Chrome and IE don't work.) This is apparently a Microsoft problem, 
as the Let's Encrypt "countersigner" needs NameConstraints which MS have 
not backported to XP and Let's Encrypt apparently can't do without it. Full 
details at 



Maybe it's not too important -- WinXP only has about 11% market penetration 
according to 
 
and Opera is not a prevalent browser -- we just like it for it's speed and 
clean layout, but our users/cataloguers rarely need the Koha wiki. So I can 
live with it until we can convert the boxes to Linux.


Thanks for the responses -- Paul

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Re: [Koha] Maintenance on wiki and debian.koha-community.org - 30 Jan./13:00 UTC

2016-01-30 Thread Galen Charlton 
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Galen Charlton  wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 January 2016, I will be performing operating system
> maintenance on the server that hosts the following sites:
>
> wiki.koha-community.org
> debian.koha-community.org
> perldoc.koha-community.org
>
> The maintenance will start at 13:00 UTC and is expected to last two
> hours.  During that period, the sites in question will be
> intermittently unavailable, with the wiki taking the brunt of the
> downtime.

The maintenance is now complete.

Regards,

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[Koha] Package for 3.20.8 now available

2016-01-30 Thread Galen Charlton 
Hi,

The package for 3.20.8 is now available from the Koha APT repository
debian.koha-community.org. As always, instructions for installing from
the packages can be found at

https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian

Regards,

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Re: [Koha] Wiki certificate

2016-01-30 Thread Paul A 

Mirko,

Please re-read what I wrote (and you cut out):

a) Win XP has a market penetration of one in every nine or ten computers 
world wide; I might guess that this percentage is higher outside the 
"Western world" where libraries are perhaps just as important, or more so, 
than in "developed countries." Nothing to do with pyramids, but whether or 
not the Koha Wiki is important to them, I'll leave up to you...


b) I wrote very clearly that I was updating our old WinXP boxes to Linux -- 
I've only got three out of twenty-seven to go :=} The bottom line is that 
until a few days ago, all our workstations could access the Koha Wiki; now 
three of them can't. No problem, my email was informational only.


As to paying Microsoft's licensing fees, we're a charity and prefer 
spending our budget on outreach to school children, rather than financing 
Redmond.


Best -- Paul

At 08:58 PM 1/30/2016 +0100, Mirko Tietgen wrote:

Hi,

Paul A schrieb am 30.01.2016

> It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never
> work on WinXP

No, it won't. XP was dead before LE was born. It will probably not
work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids.

Wikipedia[1] says

> On April 14, 2009, Windows XP exited mainstream support and
> entered the Extended Support phase; […] Extended support ended  on
> April 8, 2014, over 12 years since the release of XP; normally
> Microsoft products have a support life cycle of only 10
> years.[118] Beyond the final security updates released on April
> 8, no more security patches or support information are provided
> for XP free-of-charge; "critical patches" will still be created,
> and made available only to customers subscribing to a paid
> "Custom Support" plan

I don't know how much money you would have to put into the paid
"Custom Plan" for something like this to happen, but since the rest
of the world does not have a paid "Support Win XP forever" plan,
it's not really their problem either.

If XP still works for you, cool. If it does not, well, there have
been a few new versions now to choose an upgrade from. Or switch to
GNU/Linux, I hear it's quite good.

-- Mirko


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#End_of_support


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Re: [Koha] Wiki certificate

2016-01-30 Thread Joel Coehoorn 
Firefox and Opera use their own trusted certificate store, ignoring the 
operating system.

NO ONE should be using XP any more, and if you are moving to a new OS needs to 
be a priority. XP may *seem* to work just fine for you, but it no longer gets 
any system patches... even critical security updates. Continuing to use XP is 
like trying to sail a leaky boat and expecting not to get wet. If you can't 
afford to replace the system, you'll be better off doing without.

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> On Jan 30, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Mason James  wrote:
> 
>> On 16-01-31 8:58 am, Mirko Tietgen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Paul A schrieb am 30.01.2016
>> 
>>> It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never
>>> work on WinXP
>> No, it won't. XP was dead before LE was born. It will probably not
>> work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids.
> Hi,
> 
> I can access the Koha wiki successfully in Win-XP, using Opera or Firefox
> So, I think there is no problem here
> 
> https://imgur.com/tIyRntt
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Re: [Koha] Wiki certificate

2016-01-30 Thread Mason James 

On 16-01-31 8:58 am, Mirko Tietgen wrote:

Hi,

Paul A schrieb am 30.01.2016


It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never
work on WinXP

No, it won't. XP was dead before LE was born. It will probably not
work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids.

Hi,

I can access the Koha wiki successfully in Win-XP, using Opera or Firefox
So, I think there is no problem here

https://imgur.com/tIyRntt
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