[Koha] Authority Indexing
Hello, We have a library that wants to impose authority control on the 752 tag, subfields a,b,d to ensure consistency in entering place names. We have added the link to GEOGR_NAME to the biblio marc framework, adjusted the utilities to extract the authorities from the bibs to include the data, run the linker to link the auths and bibs together. Modified authority-koha-indexdefs.xml to pick up the new subfields (and regenerated the XSL file) The new authorities are in the file and are searchable, and the link is visible in the marcxml in the biblioitems record, BUT the authority search only shows the $a and does not show the number of linked biblios. Also, adding a new record and authority adds to the biblio record, but does not create the authority. Would anyone have any pointers on how we configure this correctly? Regards Barry ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
I agree with Cecil's statement below. Especially the see from references. I've had to put in a few dozen authorities with [Not Used] to work around this, as there is a rather entrenched set of non- standard headings that were used in the old system and have since been replaced. Elaine On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Hillyard, Cecil chilly...@washoecounty.uswrote: Cataloging staff uses the authorities. When you click on the editing gadget I would like it to default to MAIN ENTRY and STARTS WITH. Not main entry $a only. The results should also show the see from references so that you don't use an (unfortunately) old heading that should have been changed. Public services staff and opac users don't really use authorities but they would use a browse list of subjects, authors and series, with all the appropriate cross references showing and searchable. __ Cecil Hillyard Washoe County Library -Tel: 775-327-8338 or 7750-327-8330 fax: 775-327-8334 -Original Message- From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Marcel de Rooy Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Authority indexing Hi, Below a fragment from a discussion on authority indexing on the dev list. As a developer, I would like to get some specific librarian feedback on this list. Another thought to add to the discussion: If we need the difference between searching through main headings, all subfields and main headings $a only, why do we not present these four identical options in opac and staff? It seems overkill to me, but please speak up if you need one of the two ! Do you (your library) make good use of searching authorities in staff client? There are three searches there. Note that the first one (Search authorities) only looks in heading $a subfields. Do you need the difference when searching authorities between $a only or all subfields? Would you need the other one: headings, all subfields? Hope I am being clear enough .. Thanks, Marcel ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --- Writing about music is like dancing about architecture --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52) ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
Hi, Jared: I mean 150$x, of course. In my opinion, it can be useful for the staff to search 150$a and 150's subdivisions at the same time and independently as well. Stefano On 13/lug/2012, at 16.10, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: Stefano, My cataloguers are interested in searching subject subdivisions (like 650 $x). Do they ever *not* want to search subdivisions? So, is there any situation when they would want to search 150$a but not 150$x? Regards, Jared -- Jared Camins-Esakov Bibliographer, C P Bibliography Services, LLC (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445 (e-mail) jcam...@cpbibliography.com (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/ __ Il tuo 5x1000 al Patronato di San Girolamo della Carita' e' un gesto semplice ma di grande valore. Una tua firma aiutera' i sacerdoti ad essere piu' vicini alle esigenze di tutti noi. Aiutaci a formare sacerdoti e seminaristi provenienti dai 5 continenti indicando nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 97023980580. ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
Hi, Below a fragment from a discussion on authority indexing on the dev list. As a developer, I would like to get some specific librarian feedback on this list. Another thought to add to the discussion: If we need the difference between searching through main headings, all subfields and main headings $a only, why do we not present these four identical options in opac and staff? It seems overkill to me, but please speak up if you need one of the two ! Do you (your library) make good use of searching authorities in staff client? There are three searches there. Note that the first one (Search authorities) only looks in heading $a subfields. Do you need the difference when searching authorities between $a only or all subfields? Would you need the other one: headings, all subfields? Hope I am being clear enough .. Thanks, Marcel ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
My cataloguers are interested in searching subject subdivisions (like 650 $x). Stefano Hi, Below a fragment from a discussion on authority indexing on the dev list. As a developer, I would like to get some specific librarian feedback on this list. Another thought to add to the discussion: If we need the difference between searching through main headings, all subfields and main headings $a only, why do we not present these four identical options in opac and staff? It seems overkill to me, but please speak up if you need one of the two ! Do you (your library) make good use of searching authorities in staff client? There are three searches there. Note that the first one (Search authorities) only looks in heading $a subfields. Do you need the difference when searching authorities between $a only or all subfields? Would you need the other one: headings, all subfields? Hope I am being clear enough .. Thanks, Marcel __ Il tuo 5x1000 al Patronato di San Girolamo della Carita' e' un gesto semplice ma di grande valore. Una tua firma aiutera' i sacerdoti ad essere piu' vicini alle esigenze di tutti noi. Aiutaci a formare sacerdoti e seminaristi provenienti dai 5 continenti indicando nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 97023980580. ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
Stefano, My cataloguers are interested in searching subject subdivisions (like 650 $x). Do they ever *not* want to search subdivisions? So, is there any situation when they would want to search 150$a but not 150$x? Regards, Jared -- Jared Camins-Esakov Bibliographer, C P Bibliography Services, LLC (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445 (e-mail) jcam...@cpbibliography.com (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/ ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
Cataloging staff uses the authorities. When you click on the editing gadget I would like it to default to MAIN ENTRY and STARTS WITH. Not main entry $a only. The results should also show the see from references so that you don't use an (unfortunately) old heading that should have been changed. Public services staff and opac users don't really use authorities but they would use a browse list of subjects, authors and series, with all the appropriate cross references showing and searchable. __ Cecil Hillyard Washoe County Library -Tel: 775-327-8338 or 7750-327-8330 fax: 775-327-8334 -Original Message- From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Marcel de Rooy Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Authority indexing Hi, Below a fragment from a discussion on authority indexing on the dev list. As a developer, I would like to get some specific librarian feedback on this list. Another thought to add to the discussion: If we need the difference between searching through main headings, all subfields and main headings $a only, why do we not present these four identical options in opac and staff? It seems overkill to me, but please speak up if you need one of the two ! Do you (your library) make good use of searching authorities in staff client? There are three searches there. Note that the first one (Search authorities) only looks in heading $a subfields. Do you need the difference when searching authorities between $a only or all subfields? Would you need the other one: headings, all subfields? Hope I am being clear enough .. Thanks, Marcel ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Authority indexing
Cecil, et. al., When you click on the editing gadget I would like it to default to MAIN ENTRY and STARTS WITH. Not main entry $a only. The results should also show the see from references so that you don't use an (unfortunately) old heading that should have been changed. Would it be fair to say what I'm seeing is a growing consensus that Main entry ($a only) isn't used, and a default of Main entry would make sense? Public services staff and opac users don't really use authorities but they would use a browse list of subjects, authors and series, with all the appropriate cross references showing and searchable. Would you say that it would be more useful to default to Main entry or All headings on the OPAC side? Regards, Jared -- Jared Camins-Esakov Bibliographer, C P Bibliography Services, LLC (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445 (e-mail) jcam...@cpbibliography.com (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/ ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
