Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Niall, Ah, that’s a question for the magicians at PTFS. All I remember at the moment was that the change was something they had to do for us, it wasn’t something I could change myself in the Koha administrative settings. I’ve been dredging through old emails, too, and can’t nail down one in which just what happened got explained. All the catalog behaviours are the same as ever, it was just a change in the OPAC wording that appears after I click the “not for loan” status in the Item Record 952 $7. Kurt Kurt A. Bodling Technical Services Librarian George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate, Museum Gardens From: Niall ODriscoll [mailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:14 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Kurt Bodling Subject: RE: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable Thanks, Kurt Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it something that can be done out of the box? The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings to go with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours. If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that status still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that this doesn't happen in your catalogue with your example. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.aumailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.orgmailto:kbodl...@mountvernon.org 11/18/2011 1:17 am We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available – Non-circulating” See, for example, http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272 Kurt A. Bodling Technical Services Librarian George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate, Museum Gardens P.O. Box 110 Mount Vernon, VA 22121 Phone: 703-799-6835 Fax: 703-799-8698 Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.orgabout:kbodl...@mountvernon.org From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nzmailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nzmailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable Hi we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the display of items marked not for loan. If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record (items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in red), the same as if all items are on loan. However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the library. However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan. I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes. Any feedback gratefully received. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.aumailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
We have some custom code on Kurt’s server right now, but you should be able
to accomplish the same thing with a jquery. In the syspref opacuserjs, try
something like this:
$(document).ready(function(){
$(span:contains('No copies available')).replaceWith(Available Online.);
});
The above assumes that ‘No copies available’ is the text string you’re
trying to replace with ‘Available Online.’ – adjust to the text you want.
Jane Wagner
Senior Project Manager
LibLime, a division of PTFS
Content Management and Library Solutions
11501 Huff Court
North Bethesda, MD 20895
(301) 654-8088 x 151
jwag...@liblime.com jwag...@ptfs.com
*From:* koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:
koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Bodling
*Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2011 9:44 AM
*To:* Niall ODriscoll; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
*Subject:* Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Niall,
Ah, that’s a question for the magicians at PTFS. All I remember at the
moment was that the change was something *they* had to do for us, it wasn’t
something I could change myself in the Koha administrative settings. I’ve
been dredging through old emails, too, and can’t nail down one in which
just what happened got explained.
All the catalog behaviours are the same as ever, it was just a change in
the OPAC wording that appears after I click the “not for loan” status in
the Item Record 952 $7.
Kurt
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
Estate, Museum Gardens
*From:* Niall ODriscoll
[mailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.auniall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:14 PM
*To:* koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Kurt Bodling
*Subject:* RE: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Thanks, Kurt
Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it something
that can be done out of the box?
The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in
administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings to
go with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours.
If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that status
still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that this doesn't
happen in your catalogue with your example.
Niall
Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW
Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230
2481
Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.org 11/18/2011 1:17 am
We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available –
Non-circulating”
See, for example,
http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
Estate, Museum Gardens
P.O. Box 110
Mount Vernon, VA 22121
Phone: 703-799-6835
Fax: 703-799-8698
Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org about:kbodl...@mountvernon.org
*From:* koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [
mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On
Behalf Of *Niall ODriscoll
*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM
*To:* koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
*Subject:* [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Hi
we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the
display of items marked not for loan.
If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record
(items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in
red), the same as if all items are on loan.
However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what
we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the
library.
However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a
public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for
loan.
I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and
Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a
flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we
would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular
item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to
keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes.
Any feedback gratefully received.
Niall
Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW
Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230
2481
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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
We had our hosting service change the wording to Available - Non-circulating See, for example, http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272 Kurt A. Bodling Technical Services Librarian George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate, Museum Gardens P.O. Box 110 Mount Vernon, VA 22121 Phone: 703-799-6835 Fax: 703-799-8698 Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable Hi we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the display of items marked not for loan. If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record (items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in red), the same as if all items are on loan. However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the library. However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan. I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes. Any feedback gratefully received. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.aumailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
I setup ITEMS like: Libro (Reference, General stacks, other colecctions, etc.) VHS Tesis etc. In the ITEM type LIBRO group Reference books, Monographs, and all printed colecctions. In Authorized values define CCODE like AG (Acervo general), C (Consulta o referencia), etc. And finally in the add ITEM info (Library, Colecction, Copy number, barcodes, etc.) I select Not for loan for books that not circulate. Works fine for me. The Not available tags refers to title with no ITEMS. Saludos, Felipe Adalid Ortiz Anzaldo Bibliotecario de sistemas Universidad Iberoamericana Tijuana Biblioteca Loyola http://clavius.tij.uia.mx Ave. Centro Universitario 2501 Playas de Tijuana 22200, Tijuana, B.C. 0 664 630-1577 Ext. 623 ada...@tij.uia.mx ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Thanks, Kurt Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it something that can be done out of the box? The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings to go with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours. If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that status still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that this doesn't happen in your catalogue with your example. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.org 11/18/2011 1:17 am We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available – Non-circulating” See, for example, http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272 Kurt A. Bodling Technical Services Librarian George Washington's Mount Vernon Estate, Museum Gardens P.O. Box 110 Mount Vernon, VA 22121 Phone: 703-799-6835 Fax: 703-799-8698 Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org From:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable Hi we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the display of items marked not for loan. If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record (items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in red), the same as if all items are on loan. However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the library. However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan. I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes. Any feedback gratefully received. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au |ph. 02 9230 2481 ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Thanks Felipe which version of Koha are you using? We are on 3.2, and the behaviour we see on our version is that records with items attached which are flagged not for loan show as unavailable in search results (as if they are on loan). From having a look at your catalogue, this is not the case for you. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 Adalid Ortiz ada...@tij.uia.mx 11/18/2011 4:54 am I setup ITEMS like: Libro (Reference, General stacks, other colecctions, etc.) VHS Tesis etc. In the ITEM type LIBRO group Reference books, Monographs, and all printed colecctions. In Authorized values define CCODE like AG (Acervo general), C (Consulta o referencia), etc. And finally in the add ITEM info (Library, Colecction, Copy number, barcodes, etc.) I select Not for loan for books that not circulate. Works fine for me. The Not available tags refers to title with no ITEMS. Saludos, Felipe Adalid Ortiz Anzaldo Bibliotecario de sistemas Universidad Iberoamericana Tijuana Biblioteca Loyola http://clavius.tij.uia.mx Ave. Centro Universitario 2501 Playas de Tijuana 22200, Tijuana, B.C. 0 664 630-1577 Ext. 623 ada...@tij.uia.mx ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Ah, ok... actually we are in 3.4 but 3 or 4 monts ago was 3.2. Maybe the display template that we setup, XLST instead of default. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
[Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable
Hi we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the display of items marked not for loan. If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record (items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in red), the same as if all items are on loan. However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the library. However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan. I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes. Any feedback gratefully received. Niall Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481 ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
