Re: [Koha] Template or framework?

2013-10-08 Thread Elaine Bradtke
Thanks for that.  I ended up using a combination of a template with a
modified fast add format.  Because only a very limited set of materials
circulate, they're all going to have a lot of the fields with the same
content.
I tested it on a couple titles, and it seems to be fairly efficient while
still providing the needed information to locate the book for more in-depth
cataloguing.
ELaine


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Hillyard, Cecil
chilly...@washoecounty.uswrote:

 In our fast add framework we have added a default value to the 952 tag
 subfield 3 Materials specified and bound which shows up on checkin.  It
 alerts staff that this is a Fast add and needs to be looked at by someone
 for evaluation.  We also have a default public note the says it is a fast
 add item.

 Also our 245 has FAST ADD as a default to which  staff are supposed to
 add the item title.

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 Critical fields are missing so that if the book is returned and reshelved,
 the staff might not be able to find it again using the fast add record in
 Koha (our shelving system is Byzantine at best, and made worse by current
 building works).

 It's not just completeness of data, but keeping track of these books and
 their records, and making sure they are updated. Because of the legacy card
 catalogue, they also need to go back to the cards, check for other copies,
 add item records (and location information) for them and remove the cards
 from the catalogue (not to mention add subject headings, etc).

 If I set the template to default to Hide in Opac, and include a 588 that
 says Fast Add it should be easier to find the records that need attention
 and make sure they're taken care of in a timely fashion.
 Yes, I know a lot of this could be solved if they would only place a hold
 on the books that they issue using a Fast Add record, but that hasn't
 worked so far.
 It's a little tricky trying to manage and train staff eight time zones
 away, but we're mostly coping.

 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Owen Leonard oleon...@myacpl.org wrote:
  This hasn't worked well for various reasons. The Fast Add framework
  is lacking in critical fields. I've added a few, but there are still
  more that we need.
 
  If this is for a fast add and you're going to update the record later,
  why do you need more fields? Is the completeness of the record the
  only issue preventing the Fast Add method from working?
 
-- Owen
 
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Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and
Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send
an e-mail first. I work off site)
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Re: [Koha] Template or framework?

2013-10-07 Thread Owen Leonard
 This hasn't worked well for various reasons. The Fast Add framework is
 lacking in critical fields. I've added a few, but there are still more
 that we need.

If this is for a fast add and you're going to update the record later,
why do you need more fields? Is the completeness of the record the
only issue preventing the Fast Add method from working?

  -- Owen

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Athens County Public Libraries
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Re: [Koha] Template or framework?

2013-10-07 Thread Elaine Bradtke
Critical fields are missing so that if the book is returned and
reshelved, the staff might not be able to find it again using the fast
add record in Koha (our shelving system is Byzantine at best, and made
worse by current building works).

It's not just completeness of data, but keeping track of these books
and their records, and making sure they are updated. Because of the
legacy card catalogue, they also need to go back to the cards, check
for other copies, add item records (and location information) for them
and remove the cards from the catalogue (not to mention add subject
headings, etc).

If I set the template to default to Hide in Opac, and include a 588
that says Fast Add it should be easier to find the records that need
attention and make sure they're taken care of in a timely fashion.
Yes, I know a lot of this could be solved if they would only place a
hold on the books that they issue using a Fast Add record, but that
hasn't worked so far.
It's a little tricky trying to manage and train staff eight time zones
away, but we're mostly coping.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Owen Leonard oleon...@myacpl.org wrote:
 This hasn't worked well for various reasons. The Fast Add framework is
 lacking in critical fields. I've added a few, but there are still more
 that we need.

 If this is for a fast add and you're going to update the record later,
 why do you need more fields? Is the completeness of the record the
 only issue preventing the Fast Add method from working?

   -- Owen

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 Athens County Public Libraries
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Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
--
Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
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--Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
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