Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-08-04 Thread Elaine Bradtke
Show Analytics works fine for our serials.  It doesn't work for our bound
volumes of pamphlets, etc.
Maybe because it's a different format / Itemtype?
Elaine


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Hernandez, Heather 
heather_hernan...@nps.gov wrote:

 Hi--

 I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our parent records do
 link to the children in both our staff client and in our opac.  E.g., our
 record for Sea Stories Magazine:


 http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27435

 Has as part of this display, Analytics: Show analytics
 
 http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea%20stories%20magazine
 .
 

 And if you click on Show analytics, a browse list of all the
 analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain
 links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent
 record--they don't seem necessary.  We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater
 Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on
 their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature.  We do love this
 linking, though!

 Cheerio!
 heather
 ~~
 Heather Hernandez
 Technical Services Librarian
 San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center
 heather_hernan...@nps.gov
 415-561-7032 (voice)   415-556-3540 (fax)
 http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm

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Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and
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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-08-04 Thread Katrin Fischer
Hi Elaine,

you are right - it's the material type. Currently the link will only
show up on all serial records.

Katrin

Am 04.08.2014 um 21:13 schrieb Elaine Bradtke:
 Show Analytics works fine for our serials.  It doesn't work for our bound
 volumes of pamphlets, etc.
 Maybe because it's a different format / Itemtype?
 Elaine
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Hernandez, Heather 
 heather_hernan...@nps.gov wrote:
 
 Hi--

 I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our parent records do
 link to the children in both our staff client and in our opac.  E.g., our
 record for Sea Stories Magazine:


 http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27435

 Has as part of this display, Analytics: Show analytics
 
 http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea%20stories%20magazine
 .
 

 And if you click on Show analytics, a browse list of all the
 analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain
 links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent
 record--they don't seem necessary.  We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater
 Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on
 their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature.  We do love this
 linking, though!

 Cheerio!
 heather
 ~~
 Heather Hernandez
 Technical Services Librarian
 San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center
 heather_hernan...@nps.gov
 415-561-7032 (voice)   415-556-3540 (fax)
 http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm

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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-31 Thread Hernandez, Heather
Hi--

I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our parent records do
link to the children in both our staff client and in our opac.  E.g., our
record for Sea Stories Magazine:

http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27435

Has as part of this display, Analytics: Show analytics
http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea%20stories%20magazine.


And if you click on Show analytics, a browse list of all the
analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain
links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent
record--they don't seem necessary.  We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater
Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on
their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature.  We do love this
linking, though!

Cheerio!
heather
~~
Heather Hernandez
Technical Services Librarian
San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center
heather_hernan...@nps.gov
415-561-7032 (voice)   415-556-3540 (fax)
http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm

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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-30 Thread Elaine Bradtke
Perhaps I misunderstood the question.
Our 773 links (from child /constituent part record to parent/host work in
the OPAC
The 774 links don't (from parent/host to child/constituent part) do not
work in the OPAC, (or staff interface). In fact, they won't even display,
even with the subfield settings set to display in OPAC and staff interface.

In our case, this doesn't matter too much because the link from constituent
part to host is more important - at least for our users.  The host record
gives information on location and availability, etc. and has a 520 field to
list all the constituent parts. But it would be nice if the 774 fields
worked as they should.


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Giuseppe Angilella 
giuseppe.angile...@ct.infn.it wrote:

 Dear Elaine,

 thank you very much for your kind feedback.


 On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:

  We  manually input our 774 fields.


 That's ok, but does it result in cross-links to the constituent parts in
 the host item's OPAC?

 Many thanks!

 Giuseppe.




-- 
Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and
Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send
an e-mail first. I work off site)
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Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
---
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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-30 Thread Giuseppe Angilella

Dear Elaine,

I think I figured out.

I've explicitly found out that Currently Koha doesn't support 774 fields 
for display. See: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics


However, it should amount to changing the XSLT stylesheet for displaying 
OPAC details. This is defined in Koha system's preference variable: 
OPACXSLTResultsDisplay, which is normally set to default.


I gather that Koha uses

/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl

as its default XSL stylesheet for displaying OPAC details of a record 
(Normal view). I could indeed locate the section in that file dealing 
with a 773 MARC datafield, if present, and it shouldn't be too difficult 
to clone that section for 774 datafields.


This would only solve the display part of the cross-links issue, as the 
easy procedure to add analytics (773 datafield) to a constituent item 
would not automatically add analytics (774 datafield) to the corresponding 
host item. That should be presently done manually, as you said.


Many thanks and best regards,

Giuseppe.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:


Perhaps I misunderstood the question.Our 773 links (from child /constituent
part record to parent/host work in the OPAC
The 774 links don't (from parent/host to child/constituent part) do not work
in the OPAC, (or staff interface). In fact, they won't even display, even
with the subfield settings set to display in OPAC and staff interface.

In our case, this doesn't matter too much because the link from constituent
part to host is more important - at least for our users.  The host record
gives information on location and availability, etc. and has a 520 field to
list all the constituent parts. But it would be nice if the 774 fields
worked as they should.


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Giuseppe Angilella
giuseppe.angile...@ct.infn.it wrote:
  Dear Elaine,

  thank you very much for your kind feedback.

  On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:

We  manually input our 774 fields. 


That's ok, but does it result in cross-links to the constituent parts
in the host item's OPAC?

Many thanks!

Giuseppe.




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Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel    +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and
Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an
e-mail first. I work off site)
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Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
---

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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-29 Thread Elaine Bradtke
We  manually input our 774 fields.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Giuseppe Angilella 
giuseppe.angile...@ct.infn.it wrote:

 Hi,

 when a Link to host item is added to a constituent record, the
 appropriate 773 Marc datafield is created in the constituent record, and
 populated with the appropriate subfields referring to the host item. Then,
 the OPAC for the constituent record does show the link to the host record.

 The converse seems not to be the case, i.e. no corresponding 774 Marc
 datafield is created in the host record, and no link appears in the host
 record's OPAC.

 Is this a feature, is it my mistake, or a bug?

 Many thanks and best regards,

 Giuseppe.

 P.S. I am aware that this issue has been issued before (also in this
 mailing list), but I could not find an answer.
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English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel+44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and
Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send
an e-mail first. I work off site)
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Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
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Re: [Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-29 Thread Giuseppe Angilella

Dear Elaine,

thank you very much for your kind feedback.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:


We  manually input our 774 fields. 


That's ok, but does it result in cross-links to the constituent parts in 
the host item's OPAC?


Many thanks!

Giuseppe.
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[Koha] cross-links in analytics

2014-07-28 Thread Giuseppe Angilella

Hi,

when a Link to host item is added to a constituent record, the 
appropriate 773 Marc datafield is created in the constituent record, and 
populated with the appropriate subfields referring to the host item. Then, 
the OPAC for the constituent record does show the link to the host record.


The converse seems not to be the case, i.e. no corresponding 774 Marc 
datafield is created in the host record, and no link appears in the host 
record's OPAC.


Is this a feature, is it my mistake, or a bug?

Many thanks and best regards,

Giuseppe.

P.S. I am aware that this issue has been issued before (also in this 
mailing list), but I could not find an answer.

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