Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[dcook]

I have a fair number of libraries using EDS (in Australia), and EBSCO doesn't 
use Z39.50 for any of them.

EBSCO harvests the records using OAI-PMH and then they use the ILS-DI API for 
the RTA (Real Time Availability). I think Wolters Kluwer's Ovid does the same 
thing. 

Joel, if "find @attr 1=12 59" is failing, I'd say it's either an 
implementation-specific indexing or searching issue. I can assure you that 
999$c is indexed as "Local-Number" by default. I use it all the time and have 
for years. 

David Cook
Software Engineer
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St
Ultimo, NSW 2007
Australia

Office: 02 9212 0899
Online: 02 8005 0595

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:10:18 -0300
From: Tomas Cohen Arazi 
To: Michael Sutherland 
Cc: koha 
Subject: Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index
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I believe EDS uses Z39.50 to query item statuses, real-time.

El vie., 23 oct. 2020 a las 8:47, Michael Sutherland ()
escribió:

> Joel,
>
> Since Koha is OAI-PMH compliant, you could have EBSCO harvest the 
> catalog and ingest it into EDS.  Then everything in your catalog will 
> be searchable in EDS.  When Virginia Tech was using EDS, I had it done 
> this way.  Are you hosted or have you installed Koha on your own? I 
> suggest speaking to your EBSCO implementation team for EDS; feel free 
> to mention us if you think it will help.
>
> Also, another suggestion; you might think about switching to Elastic 
> Search because you can map what MARC tags are searchable such as the 
> 999$c for the biblionumber.
>
> Best,
> Michael
> _
> *Michael J. Sutherland*
> University Libraries
> Virginia Tech
> sudrl...@vt.edu | 540.231.9669 <+15402319669>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:19 PM Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
>
> > This is EBSCO Discovery. The service is connecting successfully, but 
> > then getting now no results back from this query:
> >
> > find @attr 1=12 59
> >
> > They see:
> >
> > Received SearchResponse.
> > Search was a bloomin' failure.
> > Number of hits: 0, setno 1
> > Resultset status: none
> > records returned: 0
> >
> > I honestly have no idea what that means, but they're telling me it 
> > indicates 999$c is not indexed. How else could I address this?
> >
> > Joel Coehoorn
> > Director of Information Technology
> > 402.363.5603
> > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> >
> > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> > assistance.*
> >
> >
> > The mission of York College is to transform lives through 
> > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service 
> > to God, family, and society
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:11 PM Katrin Fischer 
> >  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joel,
> > >
> > > the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is 
> > > local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules 
> > > Koha is installed with.
> > >
> > > Katrin
> > >
> > > On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the 
> > > > biblionumber to
> > the
> > > > zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery
> service,
> > so
> > > > the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding 
> > > > and
> our
> > > > subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index
> > > >
> > > > But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs 
> > > > index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and 
> > > > other
> > > things
> > > > like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Joel Coehoorn
> > > > Director of Information Technology
> > > > 402.363.5603
> > > > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> > > >
> > > > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for 
> > > > technical
> > > > assistance.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mission of York College is to transform lives through 
> > > > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong 
> > > > service
> to
> > > > God, family, and society
> > > > 

Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[Tomas Cohen Arazi]

I believe EDS uses Z39.50 to query item statuses, real-time.

El vie., 23 oct. 2020 a las 8:47, Michael Sutherland ()
escribió:

> Joel,
>
> Since Koha is OAI-PMH compliant, you could have EBSCO harvest the catalog
> and ingest it into EDS.  Then everything in your catalog will be searchable
> in EDS.  When Virginia Tech was using EDS, I had it done this way.  Are you
> hosted or have you installed Koha on your own? I suggest speaking to your
> EBSCO implementation team for EDS; feel free to mention us if you think it
> will help.
>
> Also, another suggestion; you might think about switching to Elastic
> Search because you can map what MARC tags are searchable such as the 999$c
> for the biblionumber.
>
> Best,
> Michael
> _
> *Michael J. Sutherland*
> University Libraries
> Virginia Tech
> sudrl...@vt.edu | 540.231.9669 <+15402319669>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:19 PM Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
>
> > This is EBSCO Discovery. The service is connecting successfully, but then
> > getting now no results back from this query:
> >
> > find @attr 1=12 59
> >
> > They see:
> >
> > Received SearchResponse.
> > Search was a bloomin' failure.
> > Number of hits: 0, setno 1
> > Resultset status: none
> > records returned: 0
> >
> > I honestly have no idea what that means, but they're telling me it
> > indicates 999$c is not indexed. How else could I address this?
> >
> > Joel Coehoorn
> > Director of Information Technology
> > 402.363.5603
> > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> >
> > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> > assistance.*
> >
> >
> > The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> > God, family, and society
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:11 PM Katrin Fischer  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joel,
> > >
> > > the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is
> > > local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules Koha
> > > is installed with.
> > >
> > > Katrin
> > >
> > > On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the biblionumber to
> > the
> > > > zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery
> service,
> > so
> > > > the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding and
> our
> > > > subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen this link:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index
> > > >
> > > > But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs
> > > > index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and other
> > > things
> > > > like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Joel Coehoorn
> > > > Director of Information Technology
> > > > 402.363.5603
> > > > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> > > >
> > > > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> > > > assistance.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> > > > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service
> to
> > > > God, family, and society
> > > > ___
> > > >
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Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[Michael Sutherland]

Joel,

Since Koha is OAI-PMH compliant, you could have EBSCO harvest the catalog
and ingest it into EDS.  Then everything in your catalog will be searchable
in EDS.  When Virginia Tech was using EDS, I had it done this way.  Are you
hosted or have you installed Koha on your own? I suggest speaking to your
EBSCO implementation team for EDS; feel free to mention us if you think it
will help.

Also, another suggestion; you might think about switching to Elastic
Search because you can map what MARC tags are searchable such as the 999$c
for the biblionumber.

Best,
Michael
_
*Michael J. Sutherland*
University Libraries
Virginia Tech
sudrl...@vt.edu | 540.231.9669 <+15402319669>



On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:19 PM Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:

> This is EBSCO Discovery. The service is connecting successfully, but then
> getting now no results back from this query:
>
> find @attr 1=12 59
>
> They see:
>
> Received SearchResponse.
> Search was a bloomin' failure.
> Number of hits: 0, setno 1
> Resultset status: none
> records returned: 0
>
> I honestly have no idea what that means, but they're telling me it
> indicates 999$c is not indexed. How else could I address this?
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> *jcoeho...@york.edu *
>
> *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> assistance.*
>
>
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> God, family, and society
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:11 PM Katrin Fischer 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is
> > local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules Koha
> > is installed with.
> >
> > Katrin
> >
> > On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the biblionumber to
> the
> > > zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery service,
> so
> > > the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding and our
> > > subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.
> > >
> > > I've seen this link:
> > >
> > > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index
> > >
> > > But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs
> > > index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and other
> > things
> > > like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.
> > >
> > > Joel Coehoorn
> > > Director of Information Technology
> > > 402.363.5603
> > > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> > >
> > > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> > > assistance.*
> > >
> > >
> > > The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> > > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> > > God, family, and society
> > > ___
> > >
> > > Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> > > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
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Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[Katrin Fischer]

Hi Joel,

999$c is definitely indexed. Have you checked other searches like title
searches give correct results and your Koha is set up as a Z39.50 target
correctly?

Maybe try 9002 as listed in etc / zebradb / ccl.properties:

biblionumber 1=9002

Katrin

On 22.10.20 22:19, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:

This is EBSCO Discovery. The service is connecting successfully, but
then getting now no results back from this query:

find @attr 1=12 59

They see:

Received SearchResponse.
Search was a bloomin' failure.
Number of hits: 0, setno 1
Resultset status: none
records returned: 0

I honestly have no idea what that means, but they're telling me it
indicates 999$c is not indexed. How else could I address this?



Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *




*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for
technical assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service
to God, family, and society


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:11 PM Katrin Fischer
mailto:katrin.fischer...@web.de>> wrote:

Hi Joel,

the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is
local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules Koha
is installed with.

Katrin

On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the
biblionumber to the
> zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery
service, so
> the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding
and our
> subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.
>
> I've seen this link:
>
> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index
>
> But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs
> index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and
other things
> like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> *jcoeho...@york.edu 
mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>>*
>
> *Please contact helpd...@york.edu 
mailto:helpd...@york.edu>> for technical
> assistance.*
>
>
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong
service to
> God, family, and society
> ___
>
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Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[Coehoorn, Joel]

This is EBSCO Discovery. The service is connecting successfully, but then
getting now no results back from this query:

find @attr 1=12 59

They see:

Received SearchResponse.
Search was a bloomin' failure.
Number of hits: 0, setno 1
Resultset status: none
records returned: 0

I honestly have no idea what that means, but they're telling me it
indicates 999$c is not indexed. How else could I address this?

Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:11 PM Katrin Fischer 
wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is
> local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules Koha
> is installed with.
>
> Katrin
>
> On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
> > Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the biblionumber to the
> > zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery service, so
> > the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding and our
> > subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.
> >
> > I've seen this link:
> >
> > https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index
> >
> > But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs
> > index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and other
> things
> > like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.
> >
> > Joel Coehoorn
> > Director of Information Technology
> > 402.363.5603
> > *jcoeho...@york.edu *
> >
> > *Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
> > assistance.*
> >
> >
> > The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> > God, family, and society
> > ___
> >
> > Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
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Re: [Koha] Add 999$c to Zebra index

[Katrin Fischer]

Hi Joel,

the biblionumber should already be indexed, the index name is
local-number. You can also see this in the default matching rules Koha
is installed with.

Katrin

On 22.10.20 22:03, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:

Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for adding the biblionumber to the
zebra index? I need it to set up integration with a discovery service, so
the discovery search can include both our Koha catalog holding and our
subscribed online resources that are not in Koha.

I've seen this link:

https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index

But it's not clear on whether or why to use index_data_field vs
index_sub_fields, how to pick the right attribute number, and other things
like that, and I can't find any more complete documentation.

Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society
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