Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Chris Cormack 
Hi all

Just to reassure people no Koha is no more ad friendly than anything else. (Ads 
are just content). AdBlock is not particularly sophisticated in how it works 
and just blocks lots of things that ads might use. Consequently it breaks a lot 
of websites that also use those things.

As I mentioned ads are just content, blocking content is hard, breaking some of 
the web browsers functionality is easier. So it does that.

Chris


On 19 November 2016 4:21:38 AM NZDT, Michael Kuhn  wrote:
>Hi Marjorie
>
>> I was the same problem and it was fault of my plugin ADBlock.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/
>>
>> Try without ADblock enable.
>
>Thank you very much for your suggestion! Yes, this did it!
>
>I deactivated Adblock in Mozilla Firefox, this time also the "Advanced 
>constraints" of 773 $t could be opened (while 773 $w and all other 
>fields could be opened with Adblock activated).
>
>So this means Koha is ad-friendly? I hope not. However, of course I did
>
>reactivate Adblock.
>
>I also made note of this in the filed bug 
>https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17660
>
>Best wishes: Michael
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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Owen Leonard 
> The field may not be editable directly

The issue is about modifying the framework, not about entering data
into the MARC entry form.

And the explanation has been found: A conflict with Adblock. I think
it's safe to diable Adblock for your Koha installation!

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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Mark Tompsett 
Greetings,

The field may not be editable directly, but when I encountered something 
similar (not this field specifically) the other day, I discovered that there 
was a little icon beside the field that popped up a page which let me build 
what was needed to fill in the data. That's just my suggestion without 
looking, so take with a grain of salt. Though, if true, it is far better 
than directly editing the data. :)

GPML,
Mark Tompsett 

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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Kuhn 

Hi Paul


I also tried to unload the framework as an XML file and to edit it
with vi - unfortunately the file has about 4.4 million characters in
only 28 lines! vi seems not to be able to edit a file with such
extremely long lines and just gets stuck, eating up 100% of cpu.


A bit of-topic for Koha, this used to be a problem years ago -- but [at
least] 64-bit vim should open it OK.


Maybe, but I use 64-bit vim and isn't it a bit unusual having such 
extremely long lines in an exported file? I would prefer a more 
structured file with more lines that are editable more easily (if ever 
needed).



How to solve this? Is this a bug?


For your 773$t, what do you get if you run a "report" (replace xxx with
your framework code):

SELECT tagsubfield, hidden FROM marc_subfield_structure where
frameworkcode='xxx' and tagfield=773;


In the meantime I was already able to change the XML file using vi, so 
the output is this, as expected, and this is working:


mysql> SELECT tagsubfield, hidden FROM marc_subfield_structure where 
frameworkcode='SVK' and tagfield=773;

+-++
| tagsubfield | hidden |
+-++
| 0   | -6 |
| 3   | -6 |
| 4   | -6 |
| 6   | -6 |
| 7   | -6 |
| 8   | -6 |
| 9   | -6 |
| a   | -6 |
| b   | -6 |
| d   | -6 |
| g   | -6 |
| h   | -6 |
| i   | -6 |
| k   | -6 |
| m   | -6 |
| n   | -6 |
| o   | -6 |
| p   | -6 |
| q   | -6 |
| r   | -6 |
| s   | -6 |
| t   |  0 |
| u   | -6 |
| w   |  0 |
| x   | -6 |
| y   | -6 |
| z   | -6 |
+-++
27 rows in set, 1 warning (0.01 sec)

As pointed out by Marjorie Barry-Vila it is actually a problem created 
by the use of Adblock (which I love - Adblock, not the problem).



We don't use 773, so "hidden" is set to -6; if the latest interface
doesn't allow you to change that, you could of course "INSERT" it in
mysql (Disclaimer: all things like "last resort", "backup", be careful,
not in production, only if you're comfortable...)


I will however make notice of this, it is always good to know more about 
the internal structure.


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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Paul A 

At 03:32 PM 11/18/2016 +0100, Michael Kuhn wrote:
[snip]
But also $t (for the title) is needed. There, when clicking on "Advanced 
constraints", nothing happens, so the tab will not open to mark the field 
"Editor". Instead, if "Basic constraints" is open, it will close "Basic 
constraints", but still "Advanced constraints" will not open.


I also tried to unload the framework as an XML file and to edit it with vi 
- unfortunately the file has about 4.4 million characters in only 28 
lines! vi seems not to be able to edit a file with such extremely long 
lines and just gets stuck, eating up 100% of cpu.


A bit of-topic for Koha, this used to be a problem years ago -- but [at 
least] 64-bit vim should open it OK.



How to solve this? Is this a bug?


For your 773$t, what do you get if you run a "report" (replace xxx with 
your framework code):


SELECT tagsubfield, hidden FROM marc_subfield_structure where 
frameworkcode='xxx' and tagfield=773;


We don't use 773, so "hidden" is set to -6; if the latest interface doesn't 
allow you to change that, you could of course "INSERT" it in mysql 
(Disclaimer: all things like "last resort", "backup", be careful, not in 
production, only if you're comfortable...)


Best -- Paul



Best wishes: Michael
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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Kuhn 

Hi Marjorie


I was the same problem and it was fault of my plugin ADBlock.
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/

Try without ADblock enable.


Thank you very much for your suggestion! Yes, this did it!

I deactivated Adblock in Mozilla Firefox, this time also the "Advanced 
constraints" of 773 $t could be opened (while 773 $w and all other 
fields could be opened with Adblock activated).


So this means Koha is ad-friendly? I hope not. However, of course I did 
reactivate Adblock.


I also made note of this in the filed bug 
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17660


Best wishes: Michael
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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Kuhn 

Hi Jonathan


Recreate against master, please open a new bug report.
This is very weird, I did not manage to find why this tab causes problem.
Did you find another one?


Thanks! I created the following bug:
* https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17660

I remember having this problem before already (Koha 3.18) but I was 
solving it then using the editor. When meeting an error the first time I 
always think I have done something wrong myself...


If I'll find other tabs with this behaviour I will add notice about them 
to bug 17660.


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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Kuhn 

Hi


I'm working with Koha 16.05.05.

I'm trying to change a copy of the standard framework. To catalogue sets
with volumes we will need to unhide MARC field 773 in the framework.

It is no problem to unhide 773 $w by clicking on "Advanced constraints"
and marking the field "Editor", the click "Save changes".

But also $t (for the title) is needed. There, when clicking on "Advanced
constraints", nothing happens, so the tab will not open to mark the
field "Editor". Instead, if "Basic constraints" is open, it will close
"Basic constraints", but still "Advanced constraints" will not open.

I also tried to unload the framework as an XML file and to edit it with
vi - unfortunately the file has about 4.4 million characters in only 28
lines! vi seems not to be able to edit a file with such extremely long
lines and just gets stuck, eating up 100% of cpu.

Except on my own Koha installation I also tested this on the Catalyst
demo installtion, it is same thing there.
* http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz/

How to solve this? Is this a bug?


I was now able to edit the XML file in a very painful way... however in 
the part of the XML file decribing field 773 $t I found some characters 
like this:


-6

and I replaced them by

0

Now the behaviour while editing of the framework is still as described 
above (tab "Advanced constraints" won't open). But when actually using 
the framework during catalogueing, the MARC field 773 is there with both 
configured subfields $t and $w.


I guess this shouldn't be like this. Is this a bug?

Best wishes: Michael
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Re: [Koha] Field 773 $t not editable in any framework

2016-11-18 Thread Jonathan Druart 
Michael,

Recreate against master, please open a new bug report.
This is very weird, I did not manage to find why this tab causes problem.
Did you find another one?

Cheers,
Jonathan

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 at 15:32 Michael Kuhn  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm working with Koha 16.05.05.
>
> I'm trying to change a copy of the standard framework. To catalogue sets
> with volumes we will need to unhide MARC field 773 in the framework.
>
> It is no problem to unhide 773 $w by clicking on "Advanced constraints"
> and marking the field "Editor", the click "Save changes".
>
> But also $t (for the title) is needed. There, when clicking on "Advanced
> constraints", nothing happens, so the tab will not open to mark the
> field "Editor". Instead, if "Basic constraints" is open, it will close
> "Basic constraints", but still "Advanced constraints" will not open.
>
> I also tried to unload the framework as an XML file and to edit it with
> vi - unfortunately the file has about 4.4 million characters in only 28
> lines! vi seems not to be able to edit a file with such extremely long
> lines and just gets stuck, eating up 100% of cpu.
>
> Except on my own Koha installation I also tested this on the Catalyst
> demo installtion, it is same thing there.
> * http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz/
>
> How to solve this? Is this a bug?
>
> Best wishes: Michael
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