Re: [Koha] Not for Loan

[Jonathan Druart]

Hello Victoria,

If you want even more magic you can try the "Update SQL" button that
appears on the report list view when a report is using the old
biblioitems.marcxml fields.

See those screenshots: https://snag.gy/j17fdl.jpg and
https://snag.gy/1i063z.jpg

Regards,
Jonathan

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 05:23 Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel <
mavicsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it worked like magic.
> Thank you so much for your help.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:19 PM Bob Birchall  wrote:
>
> > Ah yes, sorry.
> > Replace each occurrence of marcxml with metadata
> >
> > That should do it.
> > Bob
> >
> > On 23/10/18 6:51 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:
> >
> > We are using 17.11.10.
> > I followed your instructions but i'm still getting the same error
> message.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Bob Birchall  wrote:
> >
> >> On 23/10/18 6:16 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:
> >> > Hi.
> >> >
> >> > I copied this SQL report
> >> >
> >> > SELECT
> >> >  CONCAT(' detail.pl?biblionumber=
> >> ',b.biblionumber,
> >> > '\">', b.title, '' ) AS Title,
> >> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> >> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="b"]') AS "Subtitle",
> >> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> >> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="n"]') AS "Part name",
> >> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> >> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="p"]') AS "Part",
> >> >  b.author AS 'Author',
> >> >  b.copyrightdate AS 'Year',
> >> >  i.barcode AS Barcode,
> >> >  i.itemcallnumber AS 'Callnumber',
> >> >  i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN items i USING (
> >> > biblionumber ) LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi USING ( biblionumber ) WHERE
> >> > i.notforloan = '1'ORDER BY b.title
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > but I'm got this message when I ran it.
> >> >
> >> > *The following error was encountered:*
> >> > The database returned the following error:
> >> > Unknown column 'bi.marcxml' in 'field list'
> >> > Please check the log for further details.
> >> > Return to previous page
> >> > <
> >>
> http://192.168.1.18:8080/cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl?reports=23=Run%20this%20report#
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
> >>
> >> Hi, do three things:
> >> - delete LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi and replace it with LEFT JOIN
> >> biblio_metadata bi
> >> - at FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN insert a space between b and LEFT
> >> - at i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM insert a space between Type' and FROM
> >>
> >> The marcxml was taken out of the biblioitems table and put in a separate
> >> biblio_metadata table a couple of versions back. You haven't said what
> >> version you are using, but it must be relatively recent?
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Bob Birchall
> >> Calyx
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> > Registered Librarian, 3892
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Koha] Not for Loan

[Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel]

Yes, it worked like magic.
Thank you so much for your help.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:19 PM Bob Birchall  wrote:

> Ah yes, sorry.
> Replace each occurrence of marcxml with metadata
>
> That should do it.
> Bob
>
> On 23/10/18 6:51 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:
>
> We are using 17.11.10.
> I followed your instructions but i'm still getting the same error message.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Bob Birchall  wrote:
>
>> On 23/10/18 6:16 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I copied this SQL report
>> >
>> > SELECT
>> >  CONCAT('> ',b.biblionumber,
>> > '\">', b.title, '' ) AS Title,
>> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
>> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="b"]') AS "Subtitle",
>> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
>> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="n"]') AS "Part name",
>> >  ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
>> > '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="p"]') AS "Part",
>> >  b.author AS 'Author',
>> >  b.copyrightdate AS 'Year',
>> >  i.barcode AS Barcode,
>> >  i.itemcallnumber AS 'Callnumber',
>> >  i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN items i USING (
>> > biblionumber ) LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi USING ( biblionumber ) WHERE
>> > i.notforloan = '1'ORDER BY b.title
>> >
>> >
>> > but I'm got this message when I ran it.
>> >
>> > *The following error was encountered:*
>> > The database returned the following error:
>> > Unknown column 'bi.marcxml' in 'field list'
>> > Please check the log for further details.
>> > Return to previous page
>> > <
>> http://192.168.1.18:8080/cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl?reports=23=Run%20this%20report#
>> >
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
>>
>> Hi, do three things:
>> - delete LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi and replace it with LEFT JOIN
>> biblio_metadata bi
>> - at FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN insert a space between b and LEFT
>> - at i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM insert a space between Type' and FROM
>>
>> The marcxml was taken out of the biblioitems table and put in a separate
>> biblio_metadata table a couple of versions back. You haven't said what
>> version you are using, but it must be relatively recent?
>>
>> HTH,
>> Bob Birchall
>> Calyx
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>
>
> --
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> Registered Librarian, 3892
>
>
>

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Re: [Koha] Not for Loan

[Bob Birchall]

Ah yes, sorry.
Replace each occurrence of marcxml with metadata

That should do it.
Bob

On 23/10/18 6:51 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:

We are using 17.11.10.
I followed your instructions but i'm still getting the same error message.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Bob Birchall > wrote:


On 23/10/18 6:16 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I copied this SQL report
>
> SELECT
>      CONCAT('http://detail.pl?biblionumber=>',b.biblionumber,
> '\">', b.title, '' ) AS Title,
>      ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="b"]') AS "Subtitle",
>      ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="n"]') AS "Part name",
>      ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
> '//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="p"]') AS "Part",
>      b.author AS 'Author',
>      b.copyrightdate AS 'Year',
>      i.barcode AS Barcode,
>      i.itemcallnumber AS 'Callnumber',
>      i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN items i USING (
> biblionumber ) LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi USING ( biblionumber ) WHERE
> i.notforloan = '1'ORDER BY b.title
>
>
> but I'm got this message when I ran it.
>
> *The following error was encountered:*
> The database returned the following error:
> Unknown column 'bi.marcxml' in 'field list'
> Please check the log for further details.
> Return to previous page
>


>
> Can anyone tell me what is wrong?

Hi, do three things:
- delete LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi and replace it with LEFT JOIN
biblio_metadata bi
- at FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN insert a space between b and LEFT
- at i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM insert a space between Type' and FROM

The marcxml was taken out of the biblioitems table and put in a
separate
biblio_metadata table a couple of versions back. You haven't said
what
version you are using, but it must be relatively recent?

HTH,
Bob Birchall
Calyx
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Re: [Koha] Not for Loan

[Bob Birchall]

On 23/10/18 6:16 pm, Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel wrote:

Hi.

I copied this SQL report

SELECT
 CONCAT('', b.title, '' ) AS Title,
 ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="b"]') AS "Subtitle",
 ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="n"]') AS "Part name",
 ExtractValue(bi.marcxml,
'//datafield[@tag="245"]/subfield[@code="p"]') AS "Part",
 b.author AS 'Author',
 b.copyrightdate AS 'Year',
 i.barcode AS Barcode,
 i.itemcallnumber AS 'Callnumber',
 i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN items i USING (
biblionumber ) LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi USING ( biblionumber ) WHERE
i.notforloan = '1'ORDER BY b.title


but I'm got this message when I ran it.

*The following error was encountered:*
The database returned the following error:
Unknown column 'bi.marcxml' in 'field list'
Please check the log for further details.
Return to previous page


Can anyone tell me what is wrong?


Hi, do three things:
- delete LEFT JOIN biblioitems bi and replace it with LEFT JOIN 
biblio_metadata bi

- at FROM biblio bLEFT JOIN insert a space between b and LEFT
- at i.itype AS 'Item Type'FROM insert a space between Type' and FROM

The marcxml was taken out of the biblioitems table and put in a separate 
biblio_metadata table a couple of versions back. You haven't said what 
version you are using, but it must be relatively recent?


HTH,
Bob Birchall
Calyx
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Re: [Koha] Not for Loan

[Jonathan Druart]

Hello,

There is a cross at the right of the input value, click it and it will
clear the field.
https://screenshots.firefox.com/Ssdo3yMMiSmdk673/pro.kohadev.org

Regards,
Jonathan

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 at 00:45 Ma. Victoria H. Silva-Manuel <
mavicsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi.
> we just recently upgraded to version 17 from 3 and i noticed that in item
> field "Not for loan" there is no more blank option that when you choose
> will make the item available.
> how do i make an item with "Not for loan" status available?
> thanks.
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Re: [Koha] Koha Circulation loan days is not calculating properly.

[Ashok Francis]

Thanks a lot Mr. Vinod ji. It is mentioned as unique leave. I have removed
it. It is working greatly. Thank you so much for your help. God bless you.
Kind Regards,
W. Ashok Francis
Librarian
New Delhi

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:48 AM, vinod mishra  wrote:

> Check holiday calendar setup
>
>
> With Regards,
>
> Vinod Kumar Mishra,
> Assistant Librarian,
> Biju Patnaik Central Library (BPCL),
> NIT Rourkela,
> Sundergadh-769008,
> Odisha,
> India.
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> relationship divorced from spiritual is body without soul" -- Mahatma
> Gandhi*
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Ashok Francis <
> ashokfrancis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have defined Circulation and fine rules for my library. Here I have
>> defined 7 loan days for students. But when the circulation time, it is
>> calculating for 8 days suddenly. It was working very well in the beginning
>> but suddenly from last two days it is showing 8 days. I couldn't
>> understand
>> the problem here. Please anyone can suggest me what should I do?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ashok Francis
>> Librarian
>> New Delhi
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Re: [Koha] Koha Circulation loan days is not calculating properly.

[vinod mishra]

Check holiday calendar setup


With Regards,

Vinod Kumar Mishra,
Assistant Librarian,
Biju Patnaik Central Library (BPCL),
NIT Rourkela,
Sundergadh-769008,
Odisha,
India.
Mob:91+9439420860
Website: http://mishravk.com/
ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/-0003-4666-7874

*"Spiritual relationship is far more precious than physical. Physical
relationship divorced from spiritual is body without soul" -- Mahatma
Gandhi*

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Ashok Francis 
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I have defined Circulation and fine rules for my library. Here I have
> defined 7 loan days for students. But when the circulation time, it is
> calculating for 8 days suddenly. It was working very well in the beginning
> but suddenly from last two days it is showing 8 days. I couldn't understand
> the problem here. Please anyone can suggest me what should I do?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ashok Francis
> Librarian
> New Delhi
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Re: [Koha] ***UNCHECKED*** Importing Loan History

[Owen Leonard]

 Will there be any problem if I import transaction history through
 offline circulation process? I have around 50 transactions.

I don't know if any of the offline circulation methods have been
tested with that many transactions. However, it wouldn't really be a
transaction history since all the transactions would be added with
the date of the import.

I would think it would be more straightforward to add the data
directly to the issues table, but I've never done it myself so I don't
know how to advise you go about it.

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Re: [Koha] ***UNCHECKED*** Importing Loan History

[Galen Charlton]

Hi,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Owen Leonard oleon...@myacpl.org wrote:
 I would think it would be more straightforward to add the data
 directly to the issues table, but I've never done it myself so I don't
 know how to advise you go about it.

Assuming that the historical loans to be loaded are for items that
have been returned, they should be loaded into the old_issues table.

Regards,

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Re: [Koha] Importing Patron Loan History (old_issues)

[Robin Sheat]

jbarker schreef op vr 11-04-2014 om 06:26 [-0700]:
 I tried to export our loans history data from our old ILS to koha
 3.14,
 using:
 load data local infile '/PATHTO/importloanstest.csv' into table
 koha.old_issues fields terminated by ',' enclosed by '' lines
 terminated
 by'\n';
 
 and got the following error:
 ERROR 1452 (23000): Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key
 constraint fails (`koha`.`old_issues`, CONSTRAINT `old_issues_ibfk_1`
 FOREIGN KEY (`borrowernumber`) REFERENCES `borrowers`
 (`borrowernumber`) ON
 DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE SET NULL)

This is saying that you're attempting to reference a borrower that
doesn't actually exist.


 So i'm just wondering how other people got their loans history into
 koha
 from their old ILS?

I tend to write scripts to do it, for example:

https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/source/395f9d788acf79df53d2c878837ce7cb72b08467:migration/Liberty/circ.pl

One thing it does do is discard any records that have a non-existent
borrower or item number, as the software that it comes from keeps them
around even when they're quite meaningless.

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Re: [Koha] Inter Library Loan Module

[Owen Leonard]

 I looked through the documentation for Koha (
 http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/index.html) and could not find an
 interlibrary loan module for version 3.8.

The FulfILLment project (http://fulfillment-ill.org/) was supposed to
fill that gap, but I haven't heard any news out of them in ages.

 -- Owen

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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Kurt Bodling]

Niall,
Ah, that’s a question for the magicians at PTFS.  All I remember at the moment 
was that the change was something they had to do for us, it wasn’t something I 
could change myself in the Koha administrative settings.  I’ve been dredging 
through old emails, too, and can’t nail down one in which just what happened 
got explained.

All the catalog behaviours are the same as ever, it was just a change in the 
OPAC wording that appears after I click the “not for loan” status in the Item 
Record  952  $7.
Kurt
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
 Estate, Museum  Gardens

From: Niall ODriscoll [mailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:14 PM
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Kurt Bodling
Subject: RE: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

Thanks, Kurt

Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it something that 
can be done out of the box?

The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in 
administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings to go 
with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours.

If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that status 
still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that this doesn't 
happen in your catalogue with your example.

Niall



Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) | NSW 
Parliamentary Library | 
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 | ph. 02 9230 2481


 Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.orgmailto:kbodl...@mountvernon.org 
 11/18/2011 1:17 am 
We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available – Non-circulating”
See, for example,
http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
 Estate, Museum  Gardens
P.O. Box 110
Mount Vernon, VA 22121
Phone: 703-799-6835
Fax: 703-799-8698
Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.orgabout:kbodl...@mountvernon.org


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[mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nzmailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

Hi

we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the 
display of items marked not for loan.

If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record 
(items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in 
red), the same as if all items are on loan.

However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what 
we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the 
library.

However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public 
note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan.

I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare 
Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you 
attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to 
make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second 
copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of 
the other item types for reporting purposes.

Any feedback gratefully received.

Niall






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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Wagner, Jane]

We have some custom code on Kurt’s server right now, but you should be able
to accomplish the same thing with a jquery.  In the syspref opacuserjs, try
something like this:

$(document).ready(function(){

$(span:contains('No copies available')).replaceWith(Available Online.);

});

The above assumes that ‘No copies available’ is the text string you’re
trying to replace with ‘Available Online.’ – adjust to the text you want.



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Senior Project Manager

LibLime, a division of PTFS

Content Management and Library Solutions

11501 Huff Court

North Bethesda, MD  20895

(301) 654-8088 x 151

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*From:* koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:
koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Bodling
*Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2011 9:44 AM
*To:* Niall ODriscoll; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
*Subject:* Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable



Niall,

Ah, that’s a question for the magicians at PTFS.  All I remember at the
moment was that the change was something *they* had to do for us, it wasn’t
something I could change myself in the Koha administrative settings.  I’ve
been dredging through old emails, too, and can’t nail down one in which
just what happened got explained.



All the catalog behaviours are the same as ever, it was just a change in
the OPAC wording that appears after I click the “not for loan” status in
the Item Record  952  $7.

Kurt

Kurt A. Bodling

Technical Services Librarian

George Washington's Mount Vernon

 Estate, Museum  Gardens



*From:* Niall ODriscoll
[mailto:niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.auniall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au]

*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:14 PM
*To:* koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Kurt Bodling
*Subject:* RE: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable



Thanks, Kurt



Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it something
that can be done out of the box?



The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in
administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings to
go with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours.



If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that status
still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that this doesn't
happen in your catalogue with your example.



Niall







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Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230
2481



 Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.org 11/18/2011 1:17 am 

We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available –
Non-circulating”

See, for example,

http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272

Kurt A. Bodling

Technical Services Librarian

George Washington's Mount Vernon

 Estate, Museum  Gardens

P.O. Box 110

Mount Vernon, VA 22121

Phone: 703-799-6835

Fax: 703-799-8698

Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org about:kbodl...@mountvernon.org





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*Subject:* [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable



Hi



we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the
display of items marked not for loan.



If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record
(items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in
red), the same as if all items are on loan.



However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what
we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the
library.



However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a
public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for
loan.



I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and
Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a
flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we
would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular
item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to
keep as part of one of the other item types for reporting purposes.



Any feedback gratefully received.



Niall













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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Kurt Bodling]

We had our hosting service change the wording to Available - Non-circulating
See, for example,
http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
 Estate, Museum  Gardens
P.O. Box 110
Mount Vernon, VA 22121
Phone: 703-799-6835
Fax: 703-799-8698
Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org

From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] 
On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

Hi

we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with the 
display of items marked not for loan.

If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record 
(items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available (in 
red), the same as if all items are on loan.

However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when what 
we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only within the 
library.

However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a public 
note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for loan.

I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and Rare 
Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a flag if you 
attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that we would like to 
make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a particular item type (eg. second 
copies of some reports, etc.), and which we'd like to keep as part of one of 
the other item types for reporting purposes.

Any feedback gratefully received.

Niall






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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Adalid Ortiz]

I setup ITEMS like:

Libro (Reference, General stacks, other colecctions, etc.)
VHS
Tesis
etc.

In the ITEM type LIBRO group Reference books, Monographs, and all printed 
colecctions.
In Authorized values define CCODE like AG (Acervo general), C (Consulta o 
referencia), etc.

And finally in the add ITEM info (Library, Colecction, Copy number, barcodes, 
etc.) I select Not for loan for books that not circulate. Works fine for me. 
The Not available tags refers to title with no ITEMS.

Saludos,

Felipe Adalid Ortiz Anzaldo
Bibliotecario de sistemas
Universidad Iberoamericana Tijuana
Biblioteca Loyola
http://clavius.tij.uia.mx
Ave. Centro Universitario 2501
Playas de Tijuana
22200, Tijuana, B.C.
0 664 630-1577 Ext. 623
ada...@tij.uia.mx
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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Niall ODriscoll]

Thanks, Kurt
 
Do you know if they had to make a change to the coding, or is it
something that can be done out of the box?
 
The Not for loan status is controlled by an Authorized value in
administration - which only appears to allow you to create new wordings
to go with the status of not for loan - rather than change behaviours. 
 
If I set up an Available - Non-circulating value, items with that
status still show on the results screen as unavailable. I note that
this doesn't happen in your catalogue with your example.
 
Niall
 
 
 
Niall O'Driscoll | Assistant Manager, Information Resources (Acting) |
NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph.
02 9230 2481


 Kurt Bodling kbodl...@mountvernon.org 11/18/2011 1:17 am 

We had our hosting service change the wording to “Available –
Non-circulating”
See, for example, 
http://librarycatalog.mountvernon.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=17272

Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
 Estate, Museum  Gardens
P.O. Box 110
Mount Vernon, VA 22121
Phone: 703-799-6835
Fax: 703-799-8698
Email: kbodl...@mountvernon.org

 

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[mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Niall ODriscoll
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:34 AM
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

 

Hi

 

we'd be interesting to hear how other libraries using Koha deal with
the display of items marked not for loan.

 

If you give an item the status of not for loan in the item record
(items.notforloan = 1) the display in the OPAC is No items available
(in red), the same as if all items are on loan. 

 

However we think this is possibly a bit confronting for our users when
what we're trying to say is that the item is *available* - but only
within the library. 

 

However if you get rid of the not for loan status and rely on, say, a
public note, there is no flag at checkout that the item is not meant for
loan.

 

I know this can also be controlled using item types - our Reference and
Rare Books item types display as Available on the OPAC, but present a
flag if you attempt to loan them out. However there are many items that
we would like to make not for loan that don't neatly fit into a
particular item type (eg. second copies of some reports, etc.), and
which we'd like to keep as part of one of the other item types for
reporting purposes.

 

Any feedback gratefully received.

 

Niall

 

 

 

 

 

 

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NSW Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au |ph.
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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[Niall ODriscoll]

Thanks Felipe
 
which version of Koha are you using? We are on 3.2, and the behaviour we see on 
our version is that records with items attached which are flagged not for 
loan show as unavailable in search results (as if they are on loan). From 
having a look at your catalogue, this is not the case for you.
 
Niall
 
 
 
 
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Parliamentary Library | niall.odrisc...@parliament.nsw.gov.au | ph. 02 9230 2481


 Adalid Ortiz ada...@tij.uia.mx 11/18/2011 4:54 am 
I setup ITEMS like:

Libro (Reference, General stacks, other colecctions, etc.)
VHS
Tesis
etc.

In the ITEM type LIBRO group Reference books, Monographs, and all printed 
colecctions.
In Authorized values define CCODE like AG (Acervo general), C (Consulta o 
referencia), etc.

And finally in the add ITEM info (Library, Colecction, Copy number, barcodes, 
etc.) I select Not for loan for books that not circulate. Works fine for me. 
The Not available tags refers to title with no ITEMS.

Saludos,

Felipe Adalid Ortiz Anzaldo
Bibliotecario de sistemas
Universidad Iberoamericana Tijuana
Biblioteca Loyola
http://clavius.tij.uia.mx
Ave. Centro Universitario 2501
Playas de Tijuana
22200, Tijuana, B.C.
0 664 630-1577 Ext. 623
ada...@tij.uia.mx

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Re: [Koha] Not for loan items and Unavailable

[adalid]

Ah, ok... actually we are in 3.4 but 3 or 4 monts ago was 3.2. Maybe  
the display template that we setup, XLST instead of default.



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