Re: [Koha] RDA questions WAS: Re: Flippin' Yanks
One can use MarcEdit to batch edit/add RDA fields to existing records. It will add 33x, 34x, 38x. It will change 260 to 264 and it will expand some abbreviations. One problem has arisen in 3.12. That if you use frameworks other than default when you export your existing records to MarcEdit, have it do its stuff and them reimport them back into Koha they get reimported as the default framework. __ Cecil Hillyard Washoe County Library Reno, Nevada -Original Message- From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Ramon Andiñach Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:45 PM To: koha mailing list Subject: [Koha] RDA questions WAS: Re: Flippin' Yanks Non-professional here, so apologies if these are dumb questions. I'm happy to be pointed at links in the right direction. If I'm understanding correctly, RDA itself is akin to AACR2 in that it contains lists of acceptable terms and how to use them; but different in that it's built on a different data storage framework (FRBR rather than MARC). I gather from reading that Koha will now deal with FRBR and MARC. So, I'm wondering; 1. Are many existing library catalogues doing the complete switch to RDA and FRBR, or are most doing the partial switch that Libraries Australia is doing (RDA on MARC)? 2. Would a switch be something that could be automated easily? Say a script that adapts AACR2 records in Koha to RDA records? 3. Would the Z39.50 server standard still service RDA/FRBR records, or just */MARC records? Probably got some others, but those are the three running around in my head at the moment. Cheers, -ramon. On 03/10/2013, at 02:25 , glaws wrote: RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! Greg On 10/02/2013 01:40 PM, Magnus Enger wrote: tirsdag 1. oktober 2013 skrev glaws følgende: This does, of course, present the perfect opportunity for a strong progressive organization outside the U.S. to step in and become the New Marc Master of the World. Or we could take it as an opportunity to leave MARC on the scrap heap of history and embrace current technologies instead... :-) Best regards, Magnus Enger Libriotech.no ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] RDA questions WAS: Re: Flippin' Yanks
* Ramon Andiñach (cust...@westnet.com.au) wrote: Non-professional here, so apologies if these are dumb questions. I'm happy to be pointed at links in the right direction. If I'm understanding correctly, RDA itself is akin to AACR2 in that it contains lists of acceptable terms and how to use them; but different in that it's built on a different data storage framework (FRBR rather than MARC). Ive never seen RDA implemented in anything other than MARC, I would love to see it something else. All I have ever seen of RDA in the wild is MARC21 with some new fields. I gather from reading that Koha will now deal with FRBR and MARC. So, I'm wondering; 1. Are many existing library catalogues doing the complete switch to RDA and FRBR, or are most doing the partial switch that Libraries Australia is doing (RDA on MARC)? That's all I have seen. 2. Would a switch be something that could be automated easily? Say a script that adapts AACR2 records in Koha to RDA records? Nope, thats one of the major problems, there isn't a nice way to move a record from AACR2 to RDA 3. Would the Z39.50 server standard still service RDA/FRBR records, or just */MARC records? Probably got some others, but those are the three running around in my head at the moment. Basically I am not a fan of RDA in the slightest, I think it is holding libraries back, not moving them forward. https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/369632875689172992 I have a faint hope that Bibframe might provide something more useful http://bibframe.org/ But I also dread it will suffer the same designed by committees fate that RDA did. People are bound to disagree with me, and that's the great thing about Koha. They can send patches to implement stuff if they want. But you won't catch me doing any more work on RDA stuff :) I'm far more interested in what Oslo Public library are doing with RDF Chris Cheers, -ramon. On 03/10/2013, at 02:25 , glaws wrote: RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! RDA! Greg On 10/02/2013 01:40 PM, Magnus Enger wrote: tirsdag 1. oktober 2013 skrev glaws følgende: This does, of course, present the perfect opportunity for a strong progressive organization outside the U.S. to step in and become the New Marc Master of the World. Or we could take it as an opportunity to leave MARC on the scrap heap of history and embrace current technologies instead... :-) Best regards, Magnus Enger Libriotech.no ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] RDA questions WAS: Re: Flippin' Yanks
At 12:05 PM 10/3/2013 +1300, Chris Cormack wrote: * Ramon Andiñach (cust...@westnet.com.au) wrote: [snip] Basically I am not a fan of RDA in the slightest, I think it is holding libraries back, not moving them forward. +1 emphatically People are bound to disagree with me, and that's the great thing about Koha. They can send patches to implement stuff if they want. But you won't catch me doing any more work on RDA stuff :) MARC may or may not be the ultimate, but it works for m|billions of biblio records world wide. Improving, for the sake of ethereal improvement only, what's not broken is normally an expensive pipe-dream. Best - Paul ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
