Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices

2017-01-04 Thread Katrin 

Hi Radek,

sorry, missed to send my question to the list earlier today. I am not 
sure if <> ever worked for those, we have only used it for 
DUEDGST and PREDUEDGST so far. Could you file a bug? I think the count 
needs to be updated every time a checkout/return is recorded.


Katrin

On 04.01.2017 13:25, Radek Šiman wrote:

Hi Katrin,

we tried it in CHECKIN/CHECKOUT/RENEWAL as I remember (a month or two 
ago).


Radek

Dne 04.01.17 v 12:44 Katrin Fischer napsal(a):

Hi Radek,
do you mean the due/predue digests or the checkout and checkin notices?
Katrin
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 04. Januar 2017 um 11:53 Uhr
*Von:* "Radek Šiman" <radek.si...@centrum.cz>
*An:* koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
*Betreff:* Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices
Hi,

we also really appreciate the TT option to have in notices. We tried it
and faced a problem especially with those digest letters. If you use
digests only, most of the letter is prepared for the first round and
then its updated with iterated data items as they come. This means that
placeholders like <> are not updated anymore so we can see
letters saying eg. "you returned 3 items", but in the fact there is much
more of them listed in:

<>

Maybe it's a bug and not a TT issue...?

Regards
Radek

Dne 04.01.17 v 8:24 Katrin napsal(a):
> +1 to what Bob said. I think we need the old syntax to be fully
> working at least for a longer transition time.
>
> I can see that TT will allow us to have even nicer notices than we
> have now, so looking forward to having the option.
>
> I think documentation will be really important in order to have
> libraries use the feature. We have some special constructs with the
> current syntax now. It would be nice to have mapping on how to achieve
> the same output or similar with the new TT syntax. I am thinking of
> things like:
>
> <<date_due|dateonly>>
> <>
> <>
> <>
> ...
>
> Katrin
>
> On 03.01.2017 12:40, Bob Birchall wrote:
>> Its good to see the commitment to keeping the existing syntax as an
>> alternative to the new syntax - thank you!. There are a massive
>> number of existing notice templates in Koha libraries and libraries
>> could face a significant cost to switch to the new syntax. So as
>> long as the path involves introducing the new but retaining the old
>> as an alternative, we're in favour.
>> Thanks for the initiative.
>> Bob Birchall
>> Calyx
>>
>> On 02/01/17 22:01, Jonathan Druart wrote:
>>> Silence will be considered as an agreement.
>>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 16:03 Kyle Hall <kyle.m.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey All!
>>>>
>>>> As you may know, Koha 16.11 supports the use of Template Toolkit
>>>> markup in
>>>> Koha's slips and notices. This provides huge benefits over our 
current

>>>> bespoke syntax, such as
>>>> A) Consistency, we have odd tags like <>
>>>> B) Flow control, for example, we can hide labels for fields that
>>>> are empty
>>>> C) Flexible, for example, maybe you want to mask part of a patrons
>>>> name on
>>>> a print slip, with TT it's easy!
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan and I would really like to get moving on making Template
>>>> Toolkit
>>>> the defacto way to deal with slips and notices in Koha. This is 
not a

>>>> trivial undertaking, and we'd like to get it done in time for the
>>>> 17.05
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>> To do this we will:
>>>> A) Port all slips and notices to TT syntax
>>>> B) Enable TT syntax in the slips and notices editor
>>>> C) Document the new TT syntax of slips and notices
>>>>
>>>> These tasks will be accomplished on bugs 15278, 15277, and 15276
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to stress that the existing Slips and Notices 
syntax will

>>>> continue to work in 17.05, and you will *not* need to update your
>>>> existing
>>>> templates during the 17.05 upgrade process.
>>>>
>>>> We are looking for community input on this project before we
>>>> proceed. Let
>>>> us know what you think!
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kylehall.info
>>>> ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
>>>> Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
&

Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices

2017-01-04 Thread Radek Šiman 

Hi,

we also really appreciate the TT option to have in notices. We tried it 
and faced a problem especially with those digest letters. If you use 
digests only, most of the letter is prepared for the first round and 
then its updated with iterated data items as they come. This means that 
placeholders like <> are not updated anymore so we can see 
letters saying eg. "you returned 3 items", but in the fact there is much 
more of them listed in:


<>

Maybe it's a bug and not a TT issue...?

Regards
Radek

Dne 04.01.17 v 8:24 Katrin napsal(a):
+1 to what Bob said. I think we need the old syntax to be fully 
working at least for a longer transition time.


I can see that TT will allow us to have even nicer notices than we 
have now, so looking forward to having the option.


I think documentation will be really important in order to have 
libraries use the feature. We have some special constructs with the 
current syntax now. It would be nice to have mapping on how to achieve 
the same output or similar with the new TT syntax. I am thinking of 
things like:


<>
<>
<>
<>
...

Katrin

On 03.01.2017 12:40, Bob Birchall wrote:
Its good to see the commitment to keeping the existing syntax as an 
alternative to the new syntax - thank you!.   There are a massive 
number of existing notice templates in Koha libraries and libraries 
could face a significant cost to switch to the new syntax.  So as 
long as the path involves introducing the new but retaining the old 
as an alternative, we're in favour.

Thanks for the initiative.
Bob Birchall
Calyx

On 02/01/17 22:01, Jonathan Druart wrote:

Silence will be considered as an agreement.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Jonathan

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 16:03 Kyle Hall  wrote:


Hey All!

As you may know, Koha 16.11 supports the use of Template Toolkit 
markup in

Koha's slips and notices. This provides huge benefits over our current
bespoke syntax, such as
A) Consistency, we have odd tags like <>
B) Flow control, for example, we can hide labels for fields that 
are empty
C) Flexible, for example, maybe you want to mask part of a patrons 
name on

a print slip, with TT it's easy!

Jonathan and I would really like to get moving on making Template 
Toolkit

the defacto way to deal with slips and notices in Koha. This is not a
trivial undertaking, and we'd like to get it done in time for the 
17.05

release.

To do this we will:
A) Port all slips and notices to TT syntax
B) Enable TT syntax in the slips and notices editor
C) Document the new TT syntax of slips and notices

These tasks will be accomplished on bugs 15278, 15277, and 15276
respectively.

I would like to stress that the existing Slips and Notices syntax will
continue to work in 17.05, and you will *not* need to update your 
existing

templates during the 17.05 upgrade process.

We are looking for community input on this project before we 
proceed. Let

us know what you think!

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
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Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices

2017-01-03 Thread Katrin 
+1 to what Bob said. I think we need the old syntax to be fully working 
at least for a longer transition time.


I can see that TT will allow us to have even nicer notices than we have 
now, so looking forward to having the option.


I think documentation will be really important in order to have 
libraries use the feature. We have some special constructs with the 
current syntax now. It would be nice to have mapping on how to achieve 
the same output or similar with the new TT syntax. I am thinking of 
things like:


<>
<>
<>
<>
...

Katrin

On 03.01.2017 12:40, Bob Birchall wrote:
Its good to see the commitment to keeping the existing syntax as an 
alternative to the new syntax - thank you!.   There are a massive 
number of existing notice templates in Koha libraries and libraries 
could face a significant cost to switch to the new syntax.  So as long 
as the path involves introducing the new but retaining the old as an 
alternative, we're in favour.

Thanks for the initiative.
Bob Birchall
Calyx

On 02/01/17 22:01, Jonathan Druart wrote:

Silence will be considered as an agreement.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Jonathan

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 16:03 Kyle Hall  wrote:


Hey All!

As you may know, Koha 16.11 supports the use of Template Toolkit 
markup in

Koha's slips and notices. This provides huge benefits over our current
bespoke syntax, such as
A) Consistency, we have odd tags like <>
B) Flow control, for example, we can hide labels for fields that are 
empty
C) Flexible, for example, maybe you want to mask part of a patrons 
name on

a print slip, with TT it's easy!

Jonathan and I would really like to get moving on making Template 
Toolkit

the defacto way to deal with slips and notices in Koha. This is not a
trivial undertaking, and we'd like to get it done in time for the 17.05
release.

To do this we will:
A) Port all slips and notices to TT syntax
B) Enable TT syntax in the slips and notices editor
C) Document the new TT syntax of slips and notices

These tasks will be accomplished on bugs 15278, 15277, and 15276
respectively.

I would like to stress that the existing Slips and Notices syntax will
continue to work in 17.05, and you will *not* need to update your 
existing

templates during the 17.05 upgrade process.

We are looking for community input on this project before we 
proceed. Let

us know what you think!

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
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Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices

2017-01-03 Thread Bob Birchall 
Its good to see the commitment to keeping the existing syntax as an 
alternative to the new syntax - thank you!.   There are a massive number 
of existing notice templates in Koha libraries and libraries could face 
a significant cost to switch to the new syntax.  So as long as the path 
involves introducing the new but retaining the old as an alternative, 
we're in favour.

Thanks for the initiative.
Bob Birchall
Calyx

On 02/01/17 22:01, Jonathan Druart wrote:

Silence will be considered as an agreement.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Jonathan

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 16:03 Kyle Hall  wrote:


Hey All!

As you may know, Koha 16.11 supports the use of Template Toolkit markup in
Koha's slips and notices. This provides huge benefits over our current
bespoke syntax, such as
A) Consistency, we have odd tags like <>
B) Flow control, for example, we can hide labels for fields that are empty
C) Flexible, for example, maybe you want to mask part of a patrons name on
a print slip, with TT it's easy!

Jonathan and I would really like to get moving on making Template Toolkit
the defacto way to deal with slips and notices in Koha. This is not a
trivial undertaking, and we'd like to get it done in time for the 17.05
release.

To do this we will:
A) Port all slips and notices to TT syntax
B) Enable TT syntax in the slips and notices editor
C) Document the new TT syntax of slips and notices

These tasks will be accomplished on bugs 15278, 15277, and 15276
respectively.

I would like to stress that the existing Slips and Notices syntax will
continue to work in 17.05, and you will *not* need to update your existing
templates during the 17.05 upgrade process.

We are looking for community input on this project before we proceed. Let
us know what you think!

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
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Re: [Koha] Template Toolkit Syntax for Slips & Notices

2017-01-02 Thread Jonathan Druart 
Silence will be considered as an agreement.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,
Jonathan

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 16:03 Kyle Hall  wrote:

> Hey All!
>
> As you may know, Koha 16.11 supports the use of Template Toolkit markup in
> Koha's slips and notices. This provides huge benefits over our current
> bespoke syntax, such as
> A) Consistency, we have odd tags like <>
> B) Flow control, for example, we can hide labels for fields that are empty
> C) Flexible, for example, maybe you want to mask part of a patrons name on
> a print slip, with TT it's easy!
>
> Jonathan and I would really like to get moving on making Template Toolkit
> the defacto way to deal with slips and notices in Koha. This is not a
> trivial undertaking, and we'd like to get it done in time for the 17.05
> release.
>
> To do this we will:
> A) Port all slips and notices to TT syntax
> B) Enable TT syntax in the slips and notices editor
> C) Document the new TT syntax of slips and notices
>
> These tasks will be accomplished on bugs 15278, 15277, and 15276
> respectively.
>
> I would like to stress that the existing Slips and Notices syntax will
> continue to work in 17.05, and you will *not* need to update your existing
> templates during the 17.05 upgrade process.
>
> We are looking for community input on this project before we proceed. Let
> us know what you think!
>
> Kyle
>
> http://www.kylehall.info
> ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
> Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
> Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
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