Re: [Koha] memc missing

2011-04-29 Thread Paul

At 04:53 AM 4/30/2011 +0700, Mizst Audens wrote:
The name is actually CGI::Session::Driver::memcached. The text is cut off 
when displayed by the utility.


Thanks - and yes indeed - that's why I wrote below that I suspected 
libcache-memcached-perl, but that we're apparently up-to-date:


paul@server2:~/koha3.4/koha-3.04.00.000$ sudo apt-get install 
libcache-memcached-perl

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
libcache-memcached-perl is already the newest version.

Any ideas where the missing memc[ached] might be found?

Best - Paul



--Mizst


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Paul 
mailto:pau...@aandc.orgpau...@aandc.org wrote:

During checks prior to installing 3.4, I found:

paul@server2:~/koha3.4/koha-3.04.00.000$ 
./http://koha_perl_deps.plkoha_perl_deps.pl -u -m
Module Name                   Current Version      Required 
Version

Module Required
-
CGI::Session::Driver::memc    0 *                  0.04
Graphics::Magick              1.3.12 *             1.3.5

Does anyone know where CGI::Session::Driver::memc might be found? I thought
it could be libcache-memcached-perl but we seem to be up-to-date.

Many thanks,

Paul
Tired old sys-admin

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Re: [Koha] memc missing

2011-04-29 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
I think it's optional. I don't have it, and my installation works fine, so
far as I can tell. If you're concerned, the module is in CPAN. It looks like
libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl was pulled from Debian in 2009
(maybe?), and a new package has been prepared by none other than Robin
Sheat.

Regards,
Jared

2011/4/29 Paul pau...@aandc.org

  At 04:53 AM 4/30/2011 +0700, Mizst Audens wrote:

 The name is actually CGI::Session::Driver::memcached. The text is cut off
 when displayed by the utility.


 Thanks - and yes indeed - that's why I wrote below that I suspected
 libcache-memcached-perl, but that we're apparently up-to-date:

 paul@server2:~/koha3.4/koha-3.04.00.000$ sudo apt-get install
 libcache-memcached-perl
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 libcache-memcached-perl is already the newest version.

 Any ideas where the missing memc[ached] might be found?

 Best - Paul


 --Mizst


 On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Paul pau...@aandc.org wrote:
  During checks prior to installing 3.4, I found:

 paul@server2:~/koha3.4/koha-3.04.00.000$ ./koha_perl_deps.pl -u -m
 Module Name                   Current Version      Required
 Version
 Module Required
 -
 CGI::Session::Driver::memc    0 *                  0.04
 Graphics::Magick              1.3.12 *             1.3.5

 Does anyone know where CGI::Session::Driver::memc might be found? I thought
 it could be libcache-memcached-perl but we seem to be up-to-date.

 Many thanks,

 Paul
 Tired old sys-admin

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Re: [Koha] memc missing

2011-04-29 Thread Mizst Audens
I don't know about Debian, but I've had more than my fair share of problems
with packages from Ubuntu repo, and usually a compile from upstream source
fixes the problems. I remember a case with php5-gd where Debian refuses to
update their repo to the new version, causing widespread problems for any
php app relying on image scaling. For a while, the only way to fix it was to
compile from upstream source. So you see where I'm coming from.

But besides that, an immediately visible benefit is that you don't have to
go hunt for package names in repos if you use cpan. You can just grab the
name that's given by the dependency checker.

--Mizst


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Chris Cormack ch...@bigballofwax.co.nzwrote:

 2011/4/30 Mizst Audens mizs...@gmail.com:
  Sorry for misunderstanding. Normally you get perl modules from CPAN like
  this:
  $ cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached
  That's usually a safer bet than relying on distro repository. Normally
 you'd
  fall back to the repo when there's a conflict of some sort, or it fail to
  compile.
  I thought you tried cpan without the -ached part so it could not be found
 at
  first.

 I disagree, I would thoroughly recommend that if you are using Debian
 you should always use the packaged version first, and only use CPAN if
 it isn't packaged.
 That way you get the added security of the debian security team
 looking at your bugs, system upgrades don't break your locally
 installed modules, and a myriad of other reasons.

 Having said that, for this one, you can either grab the package from
 sid (unstable) and dpkg -i it on, or use dh-make-perl or as a last
 resort CPAN it on.

 It obviously missed the cut for squeeze.

 Chris

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Re: [Koha] memc missing

2011-04-29 Thread Chris Cormack
On 30 April 2011 11:47, Mizst Audens mizs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know about Debian, but I've had more than my fair share of problems
 with packages from Ubuntu repo, and usually a compile from upstream source
 fixes the problems. I remember a case with php5-gd where Debian refuses to
 update their repo to the new version, causing widespread problems for any
 php app relying on image scaling. For a while, the only way to fix it was to
 compile from upstream source. So you see where I'm coming from.
 But besides that, an immediately visible benefit is that you don't have to
 go hunt for package names in repos if you use cpan. You can just grab the
 name that's given by the dependency checker.
 --Mizst

Way off topic for the koha list now, so if you want to continue
discussing why you think using packages  is worse than compiling from
source, feel free to email me off list.  (I do have counterpoints for
everything you just mentioned :))

Chris
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Re: [Koha] memc missing

2011-04-29 Thread Mizst Audens
I'd say it's relevant for Koha deployers, but I'll email you. :-)

--Mizst

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Chris Cormack ch...@bigballofwax.co.nzwrote:

 On 30 April 2011 11:47, Mizst Audens mizs...@gmail.com wrote:
  I don't know about Debian, but I've had more than my fair share of
 problems
  with packages from Ubuntu repo, and usually a compile from upstream
 source
  fixes the problems. I remember a case with php5-gd where Debian refuses
 to
  update their repo to the new version, causing widespread problems for any
  php app relying on image scaling. For a while, the only way to fix it was
 to
  compile from upstream source. So you see where I'm coming from.
  But besides that, an immediately visible benefit is that you don't have
 to
  go hunt for package names in repos if you use cpan. You can just grab the
  name that's given by the dependency checker.
  --Mizst

 Way off topic for the koha list now, so if you want to continue
 discussing why you think using packages  is worse than compiling from
 source, feel free to email me off list.  (I do have counterpoints for
 everything you just mentioned :))

 Chris

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