[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 koha-US bug tracker changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bugzi...@koha-us.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 George Williams (NEKLS) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||geo...@nekls.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #10 from Christopher Brannon --- Perhaps Koha could just have an option for both email and SMS that if an email or number for SMS is given, it automatically just sends a verification link to the destination. The address is listed as unverified in the patron account and unusable until the patron responds. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 Katrin Fischer changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |In Discussion --- Comment #9 from Katrin Fischer --- I think having the library send a verification email and flagging verified or problematic emails in Koha would be totally ok. But I think using any kind of outsite tool, API or website would be a big no-no in terms of data privacy and I also agree with Marcel that we should not implement it within Koha. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 Marcel de Rooy changed: What|Removed |Added CC||m.de.r...@rijksmuseum.nl --- Comment #8 from Marcel de Rooy --- I have my doubts whether this should be part of Koha as ILS. I suppose that you could process/parse the mail logs from an internal mail server (if being used) in a "neighboring application" and support changing mail queue status and/or patron email address etc. via REST API in order to signal that there are issues with this address. Perhaps we need a flag to temporarily block email. Just brainstorming.. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #7 from Katrin Fischer --- But how do those tools operate and should we be using them? If you use a web service, it will know that you requested information about a certain email, giving them more information. I might not know much about how this works, but I would not want the library to use a third party vendors software and give them my email (GDPR etc.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #6 from Christopher Brannon --- (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #5) > Would it not also be dangerous/a security issue if such a service existed? > Guessing email addresses and testing them would be a great activity for > spammers or even people who want to sell email addresses to spammers. Regardless, tools exist. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer --- Would it not also be dangerous/a security issue if such a service existed? Guessing email addresses and testing them would be a great activity for spammers or even people who want to sell email addresses to spammers. But I like the idea of having users verify their emails and flagging verified ones. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #4 from David Cook --- (In reply to Christopher Brannon from comment #3) > (In reply to David Cook from comment #2) > > There's no simple way to test the existence of an email address before > > actually trying to send an email. > > There are sites that will test. Like https://email-checker.net/. It even > seems to offer an API. Even if it isn't 100%, it could offer a way to say > to staff, hey, something might be wrong here. Better verify. And then we > can mark if it has been verified. As I said before, there are entire software systems devoted to this, yes. If you look at the "How do we verify an email" section of https://email-checker.net/, you'll see that it's a multi-step process and not 100%. Koha already checks the email address format. Previously, we've talked a bit about checking the domain name and MX records, but it never went anywhere. As for simulating sending a message, that's more complex. Perhaps this is an area where a Koha plugin hook could be added. > > However, perhaps there could be a better way of falling back to another > > method if one fails. > > > > Also, Koha could include an "email_verified" column. Many systems will ask > > you to verify your email. That could be a worthwhile addition to Koha for > > sure. > > Yes, I have actually filed another bug somewhere asking for that very thing. > Maybe someday. :) If you sponsor the change, it'll be more likely to get done. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #3 from Christopher Brannon --- (In reply to David Cook from comment #2) > There's no simple way to test the existence of an email address before > actually trying to send an email. There are sites that will test. Like https://email-checker.net/. It even seems to offer an API. Even if it isn't 100%, it could offer a way to say to staff, hey, something might be wrong here. Better verify. And then we can mark if it has been verified. > However, perhaps there could be a better way of falling back to another > method if one fails. > > Also, Koha could include an "email_verified" column. Many systems will ask > you to verify your email. That could be a worthwhile addition to Koha for > sure. Yes, I have actually filed another bug somewhere asking for that very thing. Maybe someday. :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 David Cook changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dc...@prosentient.com.au --- Comment #2 from David Cook --- There's no simple way to test the existence of an email address before actually trying to send an email. There are whole software systems that combine a number of different methods to try to guess if an email address is valid, but even then it's essentially an educated guess. So I don't think that aspect would be something included in Koha. -- However, perhaps there could be a better way of falling back to another method if one fails. Also, Koha could include an "email_verified" column. Many systems will ask you to verify your email. That could be a worthwhile addition to Koha for sure. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
[Koha-bugs] [Bug 33633] Check if email exists
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33633 --- Comment #1 from Christopher Brannon --- And yes, I know that every server is different, but we could teach Koha the responses of different mail servers. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Koha-bugs mailing list Koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-bugs website : http://www.koha-community.org/ git : http://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
