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--- Comment #18 from M. Tompsett  ---
(In reply to Marjorie Barry-Vila from comment #16)
> Is anyone planning on following up on this bug?

Until the work flow becomes clearly defined, something can't be written
properly, as noted in comment #15. So, I don't think this bug is going to leave
Failed QA purgatory, except to be snuffed out with a RESOLVED / WONT FIX,
because fixing something without a clear definition doesn't work.

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--- Comment #17 from Pascale Nalon  ---
We, at Mines ParisTech, aren't involved anymore in this bug, because we don't
catalog anymore in Koha.

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--- Comment #16 from Marjorie Barry-Vila  ---
Is anyone planning on following up on this bug?

Regards,

Marjorie

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--- Comment #14 from M. Tompsett mtomp...@hotmail.com ---
Having encountered horrific ISBN problems a while back, I get the feeling that
warning people about bad ISBNs is the best we should do, because sometimes
companies use invalid ISBNs.

Anyone going to follow up on this?

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--- Comment #15 from Tomás Cohen Arazi tomasco...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to M. Tompsett from comment #14)
 Having encountered horrific ISBN problems a while back, I get the feeling
 that warning people about bad ISBNs is the best we should do, because
 sometimes companies use invalid ISBNs.
 
 Anyone going to follow up on this?

Mark, the unanswered question is what the workflow would be?

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--- Comment #13 from M. Tompsett mtomp...@hotmail.com ---
By the way, this still needs to happen. Though, there is a nice NormalizeISBN
function in C4::Koha now. :)

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Is anyone planning on following up on this bug?

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--- Comment #11 from Paul A pau...@aandc.org ---
(In reply to comment #10)
 (In reply to comment #9)
  (In reply to comment #8)
   (In reply to comment #7)
[snip] 
 I would say can't save an invalid ISBN.
 So, if the subfield is empty, then it's OK.
 That could be cool to move it to $z automatically ($z is also the invalid
 isbn for UNIMARC ;-) ), but could also be discussed, as it may trouble users.

Just talked to our cataloguers. They tell me that you *must* save invalid ISBNs
(for whatever reason of 'invalid' - checksum, from a Z39.50 import, published
in the book) but that it might be cool to move it to $z automatically. They
would see this immediately and decide (or not) to investigate. They suggest
that they should have the option of recording it in the $a, particularly if
it's a failed checksum, but printed in the book.

However, there would be a *presentation* problem: the ISBN field in many/most
staff and OPAC pages comes up empty (only prints the $a, not the $z although
the various search functions do appear to find the biblio with the $z.) We feel
that (at least) the OPAC should display the ISBN, possibly with an invalid
annotation although this might lead to end-user confusion. Savvy end-users
might go to the 'MARC view', but both the 'Normal view' and the 'ISBD view'
imply that the ISBN doesn't exist.

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--- Comment #10 from Paul Poulain paul.poul...@biblibre.com ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 (In reply to comment #8)
  (In reply to comment #7)
   I don't think a check like this can be done with a value_builder plugin. 
   If
   I am wrong, a value_builder plugin would definitely be better, but the
   plugins aren't -- so far as I understand -- used for validation but rather
   as helpers for setting fields.
  
  You can put a hook on entering or leaving a field. If you put a hook on
  leaving ISBN field, then it will be a validation. We use that for some
  plugins already. The ... on the right are not necessary used to open a
  popup, then can be used to do a check as well.
 
 How would the workflow be in case of bad ISBN Paul? Can't save unless put in
 the $z field? Do u still suggest validating it on the perl side or the
 onLeave thing should use the same javascript code?

I would say can't save an invalid ISBN.
So, if the subfield is empty, then it's OK.
That could be cool to move it to $z automatically ($z is also the invalid isbn
for UNIMARC ;-) ), but could also be discussed, as it may trouble users.

I suggest validating on the onLeave, so at browser side, as your current patch
do. (javascript is required to run staff interface, I'm fine with that)

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--- Comment #6 from Paul Poulain paul.poul...@biblibre.com ---
QA comment:
* I think I should fail QA the patch as it is written : there is a plugin/value
builder system in Koha, that is used for a lot of things, like coded fields,
but not only. Why didn't you use this system ? It would not need to check
between MARC21/UNIMARC/NORMARC, and no need of a syspref. look in
cataloguing/value_builder/, where plugins are. The addbiblio.pl part could
easily be ported to value_builder_checkisbn.pl, so the change should not be too
hard to do.

* passes koha-qa.pl

failing QA, but asking katrin's opinion, as she's the QA manager.

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--- Comment #7 from Jared Camins-Esakov jcam...@cpbibliography.com ---
(In reply to comment #6)
 QA comment:
 * I think I should fail QA the patch as it is written : there is a
 plugin/value builder system in Koha, that is used for a lot of things, like
 coded fields, but not only. Why didn't you use this system ? It would not
 need to check between MARC21/UNIMARC/NORMARC, and no need of a syspref. look
 in cataloguing/value_builder/, where plugins are. The addbiblio.pl part
 could easily be ported to value_builder_checkisbn.pl, so the change should
 not be too hard to do.
 
 * passes koha-qa.pl
 
 failing QA, but asking katrin's opinion, as she's the QA manager.

I don't think a check like this can be done with a value_builder plugin. If I
am wrong, a value_builder plugin would definitely be better, but the plugins
aren't -- so far as I understand -- used for validation but rather as helpers
for setting fields.

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--- Comment #8 from Paul Poulain paul.poul...@biblibre.com ---
(In reply to comment #7)
 I don't think a check like this can be done with a value_builder plugin. If
 I am wrong, a value_builder plugin would definitely be better, but the
 plugins aren't -- so far as I understand -- used for validation but rather
 as helpers for setting fields.

You can put a hook on entering or leaving a field. If you put a hook on leaving
ISBN field, then it will be a validation. We use that for some plugins already.
The ... on the right are not necessary used to open a popup, then can be used
to do a check as well.

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--- Comment #9 from Tomás Cohen Arazi tomasco...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 (In reply to comment #7)
  I don't think a check like this can be done with a value_builder plugin. If
  I am wrong, a value_builder plugin would definitely be better, but the
  plugins aren't -- so far as I understand -- used for validation but rather
  as helpers for setting fields.
 
 You can put a hook on entering or leaving a field. If you put a hook on
 leaving ISBN field, then it will be a validation. We use that for some
 plugins already. The ... on the right are not necessary used to open a
 popup, then can be used to do a check as well.

How would the workflow be in case of bad ISBN Paul? Can't save unless put in
the $z field? Do u still suggest validating it on the perl side or the onLeave
thing should use the same javascript code?

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[SIGNED-OFF] Bug 906 - ISBN Check

In the MARC editor, have the ISBN checked. This feature is syspref-driven [1].
The patch adds the following javascript functions to cataloguing/addbiblio.tt:

 - _NormalizeISBN (for sanitizing the ISBN before algorithm checking)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum10 (for validating the checksum digit)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum13 (idem)
 - IsISBNOk (extract the isbn from the corresponding field, call the proper
checker functions, return the string message)

The Check function was hooked to call IsISBNOk and build a proper message
dialog. AreMandatoriesNotOk got its message string rearranged too.

To test:
- Apply the patch, run updatedatabase.pl so the new syspref gets included on
the DB.
- Try adding a record: no matter what you introduce on the corresponding ISBN
field Koha will behave as usual.
- Go to the Sysprefs editor, under 'Cataloguing' set RequireValidISBN to
'Require'.
- Reload your marc editor
- Try different ISBN to see how it behaves:
  -- test cases --
  * Empty ISBN should not stop you from saving your record.
  * Valid ISBN idem [2].
  * Wrong ISBN should make Koha warn you and ask you to fix it [3].

[1] Added RequireValidISBN syspref.
[2] Valid ISBN10: 291409891X
  ISBN13: 9784873113685
[3] Try To+

Sponsored-by: Universidad Nacional de Córdoba
Signed-off-by: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel bgkrie...@gmail.com

Comment: Work as described. No errors.
Tested with 10 and 13 ISBN, and random string.

Suggestion: If problem is in check digit, could suggest
correct value?

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Bug 906 - ISBN Check

In the MARC editor, have the ISBN checked. This feature is syspref-driven [1].
The patch adds the following javascript functions to cataloguing/addbiblio.tt:

 - _NormalizeISBN (for sanitizing the ISBN before algorithm checking)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum10 (for validating the checksum digit)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum13 (idem)
 - IsISBNOk (extract the isbn from the corresponding field, call the proper
checker functions, return the string message)

The Check function was hooked to call IsISBNOk and build a proper message
dialog. AreMandatoriesNotOk got its message string rearranged too.

To test:
- Apply the patch, run updatedatabase.pl so the new syspref gets included on
the DB.
- Try adding a record: no matter what you introduce on the corresponding ISBN
field Koha will behave as usual.
- Go to the Sysprefs editor, under 'Cataloguing' set RequireValidISBN to
'Require'.
- Reload your marc editor
- Try different ISBN to see how it behaves:
  -- test cases --
  * Empty ISBN should not stop you from saving your record.
  * Valid ISBN idem [2].
  * Wrong ISBN should make Koha warn you and ask you to fix it [3].

[1] Added RequireValidISBN syspref.
[2] Valid ISBN10: 291409891X
  ISBN13: 9784873113685
[3] Try To+

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Bug 906 - ISBN Check

In the MARC editor, have the ISBN checked. This feature is syspref-driven [1].
The patch adds the following javascript functions to cataloguing/addbiblio.tt:

 - _NormalizeISBN (for sanitizing the ISBN before algorithm checking)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum10 (for validating the checksum digit)
 - _CheckISBNChecksum13 (idem)
 - IsISBNOk (extract the isbn from the corresponding field, call the proper
checker functions, return the string message)

The Check function was hooked to call IsISBNOk and build a proper message
dialog. AreMandatoriesNotOk got its message string rearranged too.

To test:
- Apply the patch, run updatedatabase.pl so the new syspref gets included on
the DB.
- Try adding a record: no matter what you introduce on the corresponding ISBN
field Koha will behave as usual.
- Go to the Sysprefs editor, under 'Cataloguing' set RequireValidISBN to
'Require'.
- Reload your marc editor
- Try different ISBN to see how it behaves:
  -- test cases --
  * Empty ISBN should not stop you from saving your record.
  * Valid ISBN idem [2].
  * Wrong ISBN should make Koha warn you and ask you to fix it [3].

[1] Added RequireValidISBN syspref.
[2] Valid ISBN10: 291409891X
  ISBN13: 9784873113685
[3] Try To+

Edit: forgot to mention my sponsor.

Sponsored-by: Universidad Nacional de Córdoba

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 906] ISBN Check

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http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906

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