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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29005
[Bug 29005] Add option to send ACCTDETAILS notice for new patrons added via
patron imports
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30214
[Bug 30214] Send ACCTDETAILS notice for new patrons added via self registration
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[Bug 30237] Rename and rephrase AutoEmailOpacUser system preference
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--- Comment #15 from Martin Renvoize  ---
Good call.. I can try to add that one lunchtime this week :)

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--- Comment #14 from Katrin Fischer  ---
(In reply to Martin Renvoize from comment #13)
> Does that cover everything?

Almost! I think the original idea here was to have a button for manual
sending/resending of a notice. So maybe we could add that to the 'More' menu if
possible? 

It could also be useful if patrons don't give an email address at first, but
add one later.

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--- Comment #13 from Martin Renvoize  ---
Does that cover everything?

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[Bug 17648] ACCTDETAILS notice doesn't show in the notices tab in staff
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--- Comment #12 from Martin Renvoize  ---
Self registration done, bug 30214

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[Bug 30214] Add option to send ACCDETAILS notice for new patrons added via self
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--- Comment #11 from Martin Renvoize  ---
Patron imports done.. see bug 29005

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[Bug 29005] Add support for AutoEmailUser similar to AutoEmailOpacUser to
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--- Comment #10 from Martin Renvoize  ---
Right.. bug 27812 is now PQA and will now send a notice whenever a new patron
is added via the staff client via memberentry.. and bug 17648 is signed off and
moves the notice into the message queue..

Now it's time to come back to this and look at enabling the notice in some
other places, like patron imports, opac registrations (maybe at the
confirmation stage?) etc.

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--- Comment #9 from Lucy Vaux-Harvey  ---
I agree it would be good if the Welcome email could be sent to self-registered
patrons (without the password included - see bug 27812).  We have library
customers who would like to use this facility.

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--- Comment #8 from David Cook  ---
This would be good for self-registered patrons too. I feel like there is a
separate bugzilla ticket for that...

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--- Comment #7 from Barbara Johnson  ---
+1 Sending a welcome email is a really great way to engage new users.  Owen's
suggestion for how this could work sounds great.

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--- Comment #6 from Katrin Fischer  ---
(In reply to Owen Leonard from comment #5)
> It seems odd to me that the AutoEmailOpacUser preference ONLY works if
> you're adding someone from the staff interface. A more comprehensive
> solution might add a flag to the patron account so that a cron job could
> send the notice to any new (unflagged) accounts periodically, whether they
> were created by self-registration, patron import, or manually via the staff
> interface.
> 
> If we did it like that it would be relatively easy to trigger the re-sending
> of a notice by toggling the flag on the patron's acccount, thereby putting
> them back into the notification queue.

+1

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--- Comment #5 from Owen Leonard  ---
It seems odd to me that the AutoEmailOpacUser preference ONLY works if you're
adding someone from the staff interface. A more comprehensive solution might
add a flag to the patron account so that a cron job could send the notice to
any new (unflagged) accounts periodically, whether they were created by
self-registration, patron import, or manually via the staff interface.

If we did it like that it would be relatively easy to trigger the re-sending of
a notice by toggling the flag on the patron's acccount, thereby putting them
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--- Comment #4 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Hi Fiona,

we were thinking about a new feature here - not quite the same as the
ACCTDETAILS. Maybe it would be good to file a separate bug about the problems
you describe? I know that the email is often not send because people miss
filling in one of the required fields the first go. Having a look at how to
improve this would be good.

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--- Comment #3 from Fiona Borthwick  ---
One of our customers reported that they were not receiving these welcome email
messages either.  As it turns out they leave the username and password fields
blank and Koha generates them upon saving.

So in effect I suppose that this is a 2 stage registration too but it would be
nice if the email could be sent.  After all they want the username and password
generated automatically for a reason.

It also makes sense that an email is sent if username and password are
generated automatically as the borrower will need to know this information as
it is not entered manually.

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--- Comment #2 from Liz Rea (CatalystIT) l...@catalyst.net.nz ---
You could, in theory, have the email grab the circ rules for that patron
category from the actual rules, so they are always right (as of the time the
email is sent).

I like this idea quite a lot.

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--- Comment #1 from Katrin Fischer katrin.fisc...@bsz-bw.de ---
AutoEmailOpacUser will only work, if you create a new patron from scratch and
finish the registering process in one session. If you use patron data import no
mails are sent out when the account is created. If I understood correctly the
library wanted an option to do it manually or when actually activating an
account.

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