KR> Pancake Breakfast
This Saturday, 9/18/10, EAA479 in Diamondhead MS will host a fund raising pancake breakfast. The money raised helps support our Young Eagles program. The location is at airport 66y and starts at 900 AM. Come enjoy the warmth of the folks here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and ruin your diet at the same time. It should be beautiful weather and I hope to see some of my KR friends again. -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> Swift fuel
Wow, that's quite a lot. To put that into perspective, that would be an extra 20 pounds of useful load out of my gross for a full fuel load. Pete. Ballina, Australia. On 15/09/2010 10:59, joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com wrote: > The fuel weights 1 pound more than Av gas per gallon
KR> Gathering Hair Dryer
If you left your Hair Dryer at the KR Gathering rescuing a rained out cell phone please contact me off line so I can get it back to you! Bob Lee mailto: flyboyb...@gmail.com
KR> Pancake Breakfast
will probably be on a Boy Scout bike ride. if for some reason it gets cancelled I will try to make it. may have to drive. Was at the hangar yesterday and discovered a fuel leak in the plane. mechanic can't even look at it until friday. I doubt it will be ready by the weekend. Ray --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Glenn Martin wrote: From: Glenn Martin Subject: KR> Pancake Breakfast To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 7:52 AM This Saturday, 9/18/10, EAA479 in Diamondhead MS will host a fund raising pancake breakfast. The money raised helps support our Young Eagles program. The location is at airport 66y and starts at 900 AM. Come enjoy the warmth of the folks here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and ruin your diet at the same time. It should be beautiful weather and I hope to see some of my KR friends again. -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Pancake Breakfast
I'll keep you informed about future events. By the Way, I notified the FCC about that interference we had on the way back from i39. They were VERY concerned, but will likely need more folks to report it so they can locate that guy. If anyone has any radio interference form CB or other sources you can report them to the FCC on the following page: http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm Be sure to annotate the Frequency and time, what center or tower you were talking to, your Lat and Longitude, altitude and anything else relevent. Interference to our communications is not to be taken lightly. I got the plane up on sawhorses now, but broke the rear elevator spar in the process. I was going to make it removable anyway, so I'm glad it happened. The grain seemed unacceptable to me and it might have been an accident waiting to happen. -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
I am still struggling with high oil temps. 230/240. I have done several things to lower under cowling temps including completely redoing my baffles (again) which included care and concern around the standard oil cooler which is mounted in standard location on top of motor. ( GPAS 2180 VW) I have even had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated via Jet Hot coatings which coats pipes inside and out. The reasoning for this is I have a remote oil cooler and thought radiant heat from exhaust might be heating the oil via the remote oil cooler feed and return lines. I also had new Aeroquip oil lines made with braided stainless shields and also added heat shielding external on the remote oil cooler lines. I also just wanted to get rid of that cloth heat tape that absorbs mosture and lower under cowl temps in general as well as stop the rusting of my exhaust. Jet Hot is a great product. If you look at the pics of my plane, or if you seen it at the gathering this year, you will notice a lip along the lower exit area of the lower cowl. This lip extends about 1.5 inches rearward and below the fuse leaving a gap of about 1.5 to 2.0 inches between this lip and the bottom of the fuse. I also have a cut out area for the exhaust and front landing gear. I mention this so as to give an idea of the exit area size of the lower pressure side of the cowling. I also have incorporated an RV6 intake scoop that feeds fresh air to my cone style carb filter. (maybe I should shrowd the air cleaner up to the scoop intake to illimnate residual or access air coming into the intake side of the lower cowl.) My upper cowl is standard KR2 openings. Some at the gathering mentioned needing to go to a larger Revmaster oil cooler in order to cool the larger displacement 2180. I appreciate those thoughts. But, I have seen KR-2's with 2180 using the standard VW top mounted oil cooler too. SB mentioned that I probably should take some aluminum and make a slight upward bend in it and mount it to that lip along the exit area of the lower cowl. So as to decrease the actual exit area of my lower cowl. ( I hope I said that right SB) That said, it makes me wonder if the lip on the lower cowling is acting like a cowl induction ( Ala 71 Chevelle SS hood) and ram air inducing a higher pressure into my lower cowl? I am kinda thinking there might be something to that. Its strange because I do not remember having high oil temps problems the first 50 hours or so of flying the plane. It just seemed to start happening one hot Summer day while doing a lot of flying, takes offs and landings and carrying two people on board. But, I could be wrong, it may have had temp problems in in my busy and excited moments of flying I just didn't notice. In fact my passenger and also a pilot was the one that first noticed it. Wee had been been flying for a couple hours before he noticed or said anything. So we landed. That's when I decided to tighten up my baffling by redo, ceramic coating my exhaust and other little things. Nothing has changed it. So, I have been trying to look at others KR sites to get a better look at their lower cowlings but not able to see good enough pics to compare with mine. I have been trying to us the archives on this but not having any luck getting it (archive to work) So, I am looking for any additional thoughts, pics or information as I get ready to go back to the drawing board as they say and try to resolve this. I am also reviewing my white papers and books on this and would appreciate any one who may have actually had this experience who could share some insight. Jeff York KR-2 Lexington, Georgetown Airport hanger A-5 Mt Vernon 2011 Georgetown, Scott County for 2012
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
Jeff - I have some information attributed to John Thorp (but I can't point you to the source). He indicated that the total inlet size in sq inches should be the hp *.35. The exit air needs to be 2.5 times the exit air. I too had some oil cooling problems on my c-85 and found the exit air plays just as much in the cooling as the inlet air. In fact my exit outlet ended up being @ 2.85 times larger and I still see 200-210 degrees in mid-summer ( it does come down to 190-195 in cruise flight). I also played with a lip and it didn't help so I removed it. Hope this helps some. Rick Human N202RH Houston, Tx
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
Good info and stats to use to do some re-measuring of said inlet and outlet. Jeff York KR-2 Lexington, Georgetown Airport hanger A-5 Mt Vernon 2011 Georgetown, Scott County for 2012 - Original Message From: R. Human To: KRnet Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 1:40:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180 Jeff - I have some information attributed to John Thorp (but I can't point you to the source). He indicated that the total inlet size in sq inches should be the hp *.35. The exit air needs to be 2.5 times the exit air. I too had some oil cooling problems on my c-85 and found the exit air plays just as much in the cooling as the inlet air. In fact my exit outlet ended up being @ 2.85 times larger and I still see 200-210 degrees in mid-summer ( it does come down to 190-195 in cruise flight). I also played with a lip and it didn't help so I removed it. Hope this helps some. Rick Human N202RH Houston, Tx ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
Just for the heck-of-it, check your temperature gauge. You just never know.. Lynn N37LH -- From: "Jeff York" Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:04 AM To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180 > I am still struggling with high oil temps. 230/240. I have done several > things > to lower under cowling temps including completely redoing my baffles > (again) > which included care and concern around the standard oil cooler which is > mounted > in standard location on top of motor. ( GPAS 2180 VW)
KR> Gathering
Having driven from and back to Kansas this is the first opportunity to read and respond on the net. To our host Dana, Thanks, the Kentucky experience was very nice and had a good time camping. Willie's talk was a highlight for me. Dana's metal work sparked a bunch of ideas and I will be looking at AS&S and Wicks for parts and part numbers. To all I spoke to renews the enthusiasm to build. Thanks all and I will be at Mt. Vernon next year. Glenn I will contact you off net. Allan Fink
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
Jeff. Is your Carb air intake sealed to the air filter so as not to let any of that air into the lower cowel at all? -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
One other thought..In the VW Bug, isn't the finned oil pan subject to cooling air (separate from the Cooling for the jugs) from under the vehicle as it drives? If thats so , then it stands to reason that mayby they should have it in the planes also. i know that lots or perhaps NONE of the planes do it that way..but the question still begs answering. -- Glenn Martin KR2 N1333A 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> high oil temps VW 2180: a webpage
this page seems to have a lot of info: http://www.vw-resource.com/overheating.html -- Glenn Martin
KR> Prop for VW 1835
I have a Sterba 54 X 54 that will not be used till next season. Paul OReilly KR2 Stretched N7970K Derry, NH - Original Message - From: "Brad Ankerstar" To: "Krnet" Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:02:38 PM Subject: KR> Prop for VW 1835 I will be needing a replacement prop for N774A in the next several weeks. The prop bank is a little sparse, so if anyone has a 52 x 44, 45, 46, or 47, that you want to sell, or loan, contact me directly. 774A flew briefly on a Sterba 52x44 but I really don't know how much pitch I would like. I found a table that calculates theoretical cruise performance with various prop combinations. Does anyone know of a formula or table to estimate climb performance? Brad Ankerstar ankerst...@embarqmail.com 1 513 313-9265 cell ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re: Transponder Installation
> > I have mentioned this before but here ya go; I know a fellow who built a composite airplane got it flying and would start to feel sick during longer flights. With some digging and thinking he realized the transponder antenna was mounted under his seat and that is what made him feel sick. I don't know if we all are affected the same or if he was an exception but based on his case I would put an aluminum shield between the antenna and my body. All of the aluminum factory built airplanes I have owned have the transponder antenna sticking out the bottom of the airplane about 10 or 12 inches behind the firewall pretty much below the radio stack so running the antenna cable is short and easy. The aluminum skin is the shield between the antenna and the humans. Maybe the 3 or 4 inch antenna can mostly be inside with just the end ball sticking out. I am not sure if that is enough of the antenna sticking out, maybe a radio guru can let us know. There are composite type antennas available that get buried into foam cores and glassed over. Larry H.
KR> dumb KR stuff
I had my Transponder antenna inside my fuselage behind the seat. When the plane was facing the ATC antenna they could not receive the Transponder, When I changed my heading they would receive it. I left it there for about 6 months and 3 cross country trips ( Florida, New Mexico, Illinois all from Texas) and when I returned I put it back under the plane. All I could figure was the engine got in the way of the signal. --- On Mon, 9/13/10, Mark Langford wrote: From: Mark Langford Subject: KR> dumb KR stuff To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:57 PM Several of us talked about doing a forum on "KR hints and other stuff" at the Gathering, but somehow we never got around to doing it. So I'll throw this out and encourage others to share a tidbit or two of knowledge they've arrived at during their building and/or flying KRs. One really dumb thing I did was locate my transponder antenna on the bottom of my plane. I'm not sure what I was thinking there, as it just hangs out in the breeze collecting oil and exhaust, and it could be just as easily mounted INSIDE the fuselage and work just fine. It is possible for oil on the antenna to change the characteristics such that the antenna is not as well matched to the transponder (SWR), degrading performance and potentially damaging the transponder. At least that's what a local EE and avionics whiz told me after my first transponder mysteriously croaked. Inside the fuselage makes a lot more sense, and that's where I put it this afternoon. It took about 15 minutes to move it. One more tidbit that may save your airplane from total destruction is this...while at Corvair Wings and Wheels a few years ago I noticed my seat had a 6" "cut" in it. Closer examination showed the thing was burned. I deduced that the sun had done it by way of the canopy, but couldn't reproduce it. Last year I noticed a charred place on the glare shield...still couldn't figure out the exact mechanism. Last weekend at my father's farm I landed and flipped open the canopy, then started smelling smoke about a minute later. I noticed a super bright patch of sunlight on the glare shield, and the paint was smoking! It turns out the canopy isn't acting like a magnifying glass, but as a parabolic reflector instead. If the canopy is open on a dry clear day, and the sun is low enough to be shining in the back side of the canopy, it can be focused into a spot about the size of a dime and set something on fire! So be forewarned...don't leave your forward tilting canopy open with the inside facing the sun. See http://www.n56ml.com/misc/100912275sm.jpg for a photo of previous charring damage and the "sun spot". The charred spot could easily have become a burning KR, but apparently I closed the canopy before it spontaneously combusted. This all points out why using aviation-certified construction materials would be a stellar idea... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re: Transponder Installation
how close to the com antenna can you put the transponder antenna ? an one know. thanks Rhonda > [Original Message] > From: Larry > To: KRnet > Date: 9/15/2010 5:45:22 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Re: Transponder Installation > > > > > I have mentioned this before but here ya go; > I know a fellow who built a composite airplane got it flying and would start to feel sick during longer flights. With some digging and thinking he realized the transponder antenna was mounted under his seat and that is what made him feel sick. I don't know if we all are affected the same or if he was an exception but based on his case I would put an aluminum shield between the antenna and my body. All of the aluminum factory built airplanes I have owned have the transponder antenna sticking out the bottom of the airplane about 10 or 12 inches behind the firewall pretty much below the radio stack so running the antenna cable is short and easy. The aluminum skin is the shield between the antenna and the humans. Maybe the 3 or 4 inch antenna can mostly be inside with just the end ball sticking out. I am not sure if that is enough of the antenna sticking out, maybe a radio guru can let us know. There are composite type antennas available that get buried into foam cores and glassed over. > > Larry H. > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re: Transponder Installation
close...@earthlink.net wrote: > how close to the com antenna can you put the transponder antenna ? an > one know. > thanks Rhonda > > General practice is to seperate antennas by three wavelengths or more.. In this case, 36 inches will work (>3 wavelengths of the transponder signal). Normally the transponder antenna is on bottom and the comm antenna on top. They are markedly different in their frequencies so one normally will not act as a good antenna for the other's frequency, further reducing their interaction. Remember to install a good ground plane for each antenna you install, or it will not be a usable antenna. -- Glenn Martin (N5PQ) Martek Mississippi Electronic Repair KR2 N1333A Other assorted bragging rights 13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd. Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> Swift fuel
Now you can put in less fuel and still go the same distance. Seems that there is always something to complain about. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Pete Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:30 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Swift fuel Wow, that's quite a lot. To put that into perspective, that would be an extra 20 pounds of useful load out of my gross for a full fuel load. Pete. Ballina, Australia. On 15/09/2010 10:59, joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com wrote: > The fuel weights 1 pound more than Av gas per gallon ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Approach Systems APIC
Has anybody heard anything about the demise of Approach Systems, maker of the APIC flight software? I bought the latest version of their "Pro" software in early August, but only got an automated reply and no license file to make it work past the evaluation period. I also had trouble loading the XMLink driver for WX weather due to a missing driver. Four emails and two phone messages later and I've heard no reply from them. It sure looks like there's nobody home there. Just be forewarned not to send any money their way, as you may be left with nothing but a charge to your credit card. Having said that, anybody got a recommendation for inexpensive but usable moving map GPS/XM weather flight software that'll run on a laptop or a tablet? I've tried FlightPrep, but it was too expensive, cumbersome, and a tad buggy for my taste. The cumbersome and buggy part is probably fixed now, but it's still not inexpensive enough for somebody who only needs weather maybe three times a year. APIC was an improvement in several ways (and it was free up until recently), but I guess when it's free the company runs the risk of folding in hard times. Any suggestions would be welcome... Thanks, Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> Approach Systems APIC
Mark, -- ran across this software a while back when it was Free... but now it has a fee... does have all that you ask for check it out and don't let the name fool you. It has PC, handheld and smartphone interface. They use to have a trial period before you brought. I have not look at the site in a while. George Kolasinski KVPC On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mark Langford wrote: > Has anybody heard anything about the demise of Approach Systems, maker of > the APIC flight software? I bought the latest version of their "Pro" > software in early August, but only got an automated reply and no license > file to make it work past the evaluation period. I also had trouble loading > the XMLink driver for WX weather due to a missing driver. Four emails and > two phone messages later and I've heard no reply from them. It sure looks > like there's nobody home there. Just be forewarned not to send any money > their way, as you may be left with nothing but a charge to your credit card. > > Having said that, anybody got a recommendation for inexpensive but usable > moving map GPS/XM weather flight software that'll run on a laptop or a > tablet? I've tried FlightPrep, but it was too expensive, cumbersome, and a > tad buggy for my taste. The cumbersome and buggy part is probably fixed > now, but it's still not inexpensive enough for somebody who only needs > weather maybe three times a year. APIC was an improvement in several ways > (and it was free up until recently), but I guess when it's free the company > runs the risk of folding in hard times. Any suggestions would be welcome... > > Thanks, > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- George Kolasinski 770 712-0638
KR> still struggeling with high oil temps VW 2180
I concur with checking your temp gauge. Many bad and expensive decisions have been made using incorrect oil temperature gauges/probes. Better that it's reading high than low however. I fight oil temps every summer with my GP2180. I've also got the Jet Coat pipes and a standard VW oil cooler. I use 240º as an ultimate red line and treat it as a semi-emergency if it ever gets that high. In the summer on climbout it's easy to hit 240º if I'm not careful. I am careful though, and stage climb. In the winter or at altitude my set-up is perfect so I haven't made any changes. I've played with oil viscosity - Steve says a lighter oil will dissipate heat faster but I've seen no difference using lighter oil and have gone back to 20/50 (full synthetic). It's good that you are concerned about the high temps as heat is the killer of VW engines. A Revmaster cooler would be a very nice solution and probably a necessity if you fly two up in the hot season. Since mine is a single seat I can get away with what I've got as long as I watch it . . . and I do. On hot days it's tedious gradually working up to the cooler air above without overheating the engine. What you are experiencing is pretty normal I think. These engines put out a lot of heat when working hard in an airplane. The standard VW oil cooler was designed for car use. Mike KSEE EXPOSED: Make $99/hr Online BREAKING NEWS: People are beating the recession by working at home. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c9185a71ebc51b1895m04vuc
