KR> Antenna length (2nd try)

[Glenn Martin]

On 11/4/2011 6:23 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
> I have an antenna as seen onhttp://www.advancedaircraft.com/   ( the
> 5I or 5T.   The antenna is a bit pricey, ( I got mine for free many years
> ago) but you could probably build one for less than $20.


The AAE VHF-5T antenna is a folded dipole (as you recall, I recommended 
that type in an earlier post). This will be pre- tuned, and although it 
will have some minor detuning introduced by ANY installation, that is 
not a major issue, making this probably the BEST antenna to be used in 
the KR. It has lower received noise than the standard antennas used. 
Best installation: Place 1/2 of it up inside the tail and the other 
half  secured safely down below the tail inside the empennage. Keep the 
antenna as straight as you can when installing it in your plane, and as 
close to straight up and down as the plane permits. Bends in the antenna 
will adversely effect it's impedance and radiation pattern. This will 
also give the antenna the proper polarization (comm antennas should be 
vertical polarized) Building the same antenna from scratch is easy,  
getting the original 300 ohm impedance to reduce to 50 ohms is not. The 
MATCHED and TUNED antenna is what costs you the 150 or so bucks. WELL 
WORTH THE COST if your not an radio guy. SEE?? All that damned schooling 
DID pay off!!!

-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> Bob Lee

[Glenn Martin]

I'm sorry. I sent this before but forgot to change the subject line 
accordingly. Apologies for cluttering things up!

Does anyone know Bob Lee's latest email address? (N52BL) I tried
contacting him at his flyboybob.com email address, but it got kicked
back to me as undeliverable.
-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> Gathering hats and shirts

[Glenn Martin]

Does anyone know Bob Lee's latest email address? (N52BL) I tried 
contacting him at his flyboybob.com email address, but it got kicked 
back to me as undeliverable.
-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> Re: antenna length

[Glenn Martin]

On 11/4/2011 6:23 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
> I have an antenna as seen onhttp://www.advancedaircraft.com/   ( the
> 5I or 5T.   The antenna is a bit pricey, ( I got mine for free many years
> ago) but you could probably build one for less than $20.


The AAE VHF-5T antenna is a folded dipole (as you recall, I recommended 
that type in an earlier post). This will be pre- tuned, and although it 
will have some minor detuning introduced by ANY installation, that is 
not a major issue, making this probably the BEST antenna to be used in 
the KR. It has lower received noise than the standard antennas used. 
Best installation: Place 1/2 of it up inside the tail and the other 
half  secured safely down below the tail inside the empennage. Keep the 
antenna as straight as you can when installing it in your plane, and as 
close to straight up and down as the plane permits. Bends in the antenna 
will adversely effect it's impedance and radiation pattern. This will 
also give the antenna the proper polarization (comm antennas should be 
vertical polarized) Building the same antenna from scratch is easy,  
getting the original 300 ohm impedance to reduce to 50 ohms is not. The 
MATCHED and TUNED antenna is what costs you the 150 or so bucks. WELL 
WORTH THE COST if your not an radio guy. SEE?? All that damned schooling 
DID pay off!!!

-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> Gathering hats and shirts

[cruz...@frontiernet.net]

OK thanks Larry. Let me know what I owe you including shipping to area code 
14883. J.Cruz, 60 crumtown road, spencer, ny 14883.

From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:15:29 PM
Subject: KR> Gathering hats and shirts



This is for those that have ordered Gathering hats / 
shirts.  Following is a list of names and info needed.  PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.

Michael Turner -  paid, will mail soon.

The following names, I have a mailing address and will mail soon.  I 
will e-mail you with the exact amount owed and address to send check.

Collin Cleland
Stephen Tate
Howard Goodwin
Joe Cruz
Paulo Montanaro

The following have requested a hat or shirt but I do not have a 
mailing address.  Please e-mail me at  ( fles...@frontier.com ) with 
an address where you want the hat / shirt shipped.  I will then 
e-mail you with an exact amount owed and address to send the check.

Chuck Pullen
Dennis Dyer
Gavin Magill
Jeff Scott
Josh Choitz
Steve Bennett

If you want a Gathering hat or shirt and your name is not on the 
list, I will post the sizes and number of hats and shirts available 
after the list is cleared.  I should have several in the "large" and 
"extra large" size.  I will hopefully get a reply from those on the 
list and have "extras" info available by the weekend.

Thanks for your patients..

Larry Flesner



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KR> Re: antenna length

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 05:43 PM 11/4/2011, you wrote:
>The range of my radio is nothing short of awesome.  I routinely hear 
>communications from 200 miles out,
>Mark Langford
+

I have an antenna as seen on  http://www.advancedaircraft.com/  ( the 
5I or 5T, I don't recall which) which is tie-wrapped to a cross 
member in the tail cone with the top and bottom ends bent forward to 
fit,  a hand held JRC radio ($250 from A.S.&S.) with a coax of 
unknown length, and I've talked to Langford at a distance of 135 
sm.  The antenna is a bit pricey, ( I got mine for free many years 
ago) but you could probably build one for less than $20.

I bit the bullet and ordered me an IFly 700 GPS this morning. I've 
been wanting one for six months or more.  Getting a "re-conditioned" 
unit for $499.  I was told that a new software update is coming soon 
to give a "3-D" terrain screen as well as being able to rotate the 
unit 90 degrees so the 7 inch side is vertical. Can't wait. :-) 
:-)  With my new exhaust, new GPS, new artificial horizon instrument 
, I'm beginning to think I have a real airplane.  I may even get my 
transponder wired up that I've had in the panel for the last eight 
years. The "inop" sign is beginning to look a bit tattered. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> Re: antenna length

[Mark Langford]

Pete Klapp wrote:

>>I've read Glenn Martin's explanation for the 20.3" antenna length that you 
>>used. I have no knowledge on this subject, so I'll just follow these 
>>recommendations. I do have another question. Did you cut the coax to a 
>>multiple of the wavelength?<<

I did cut mine to a multiple of 20.3, and I also used the toroidal baluns that 
Jim Weir recommends.  I also have a friend that's an electrical engineer and 
HAM radio buff drop by and check the SWR, and he said it was perfect..."don't 
change a thing".  

The range of my radio is nothing short of awesome.  I routinely hear 
communications from 200 miles out, and have talked several times with Joe 
Horton at ranges in the 175 mile range.  That aint bad for a homemade antenna 
made of copper foil...  

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com 

KR> Building washout into the wing.

[GaryH]

So if I understand this correctly, the plans I have show both spars angled
up 5 inches at the ends.  Then the wing rib templates are configured to
provide the correct incidence and washout.

Gary Hamilton

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:44 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Building washout into the wing.

I see no one has answered your question.  Setting the angles on the spars is
what creates the correct washout.  Once that is done, and you keep it that
way through the installation of the foam, sanding, and glass layup, it will
be right in the end.

I have not ever had to do this because both of my KRs came to me as projects
that already had this done, but that is how I understand it is done.

Someone who knows otherwise, please advise.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

if you keep the  horizontal line on the 
airfoil plans.will the washout be correct when you go  to fiberglass or 
is that something you have to still build in the wing?


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KR> test

[Eric j Pitts]

Got you Laud and clear

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Dene Collett  wrote:

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> Dene Collett
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> South Africa
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-- 
Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Indiana
HTTP://eric.pitts.mystarband.net/KR2S.html

"Life should NOT be a  journey to the grave with the  intention of
arriving  safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but  rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally
worn  out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

KR> test

[Dene Collett]

Regards

Dene Collett

Avlec Projects cc

Port Elizabeth

South Africa

KR> antenna length

[Glenn Martin]

On 11/4/2011 8:38 AM, Pete Klapp wrote:
> Mark / Netters
> I'm just getting back to this antenna thing.
> Any assistance greatly appreciated.
>   
>
>
The length of the coaxial cable should not make any difference so long 
as the antenna is adjusted properly. I have a recommendation for 
everyone. Many Amateur Radio operators have a 'MFJ VHF antenna analyzer" 
(or some such antenna analyzer, grid dip meter, swr meter,etc) and would 
likely be happy to assist you in getting your antenna length cut for the 
proper length. Call your local Amateur Radio Club, explain that you are 
trying to get your aircraft VHF comm antenna adjusted properly  and see 
if there is someone with an analyzer who would be willing to help. That 
really is the easiest way to be certain: use a pro. Hand the guy 50 or 
so  bucks for his trouble. I'm already doing that on a Wag Aero Sport 
Trainer at the local airport.
-- 
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS

KR> test

[Dene Collett]

Hi Mac
No, my reason for changing was that I finally joined the modern world! Up
until now I have been on an antiquated dialup connection because I live out
in the sticks and there wasn't a single broadband ISP that serviced the
area. That has changed and thus the new e mail address.

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth 
South Africa

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mac McConnell-Wood
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 4:54 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> test

Receiving you loud and clear in wet and windy Blighty!
I got hacked recently...took over my contact list and sent spurious
e/m's to all.
Had to change my address but lost all my contacts.
Some of the bast***'s con money out of your friends by pleading poverty or
financial embarrassment.
Did that cause you to change address?

KR> test

[Mac McConnell-Wood]

Receiving you loud and clear in wet and windy Blighty!
I got hacked recently...took over my contact list and sent spurious
e/m's to all.
Had to change my address but lost all my contacts.
Some of the bast***'s con money out of your friends by pleading poverty or
financial embarrassment.
Did that cause you to change address?

All the best Dene

Mac ..Sold my KR2 some years ago and missing it ever since!




On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Dene Collett  wrote:

> Testing new mail programme.
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> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa
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KR> antenna length

[Pete Klapp]

Mark / Netters
I'm just getting back to this antenna thing. I was out west in Montana for 
several weeks.
I've read Glenn Martin's explanation for the 20.3" antenna length that you 
used. I have no knowledge on this subject, so I'll 
just follow these recommendations. I do have another question. Did you cut the 
coax to a multiple of the wavelength?
20.3" times "X" prior to terminating the coax with a BNC connector at the comm 
radio?
Any assistance greatly appreciated.
Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK,
Canton, OH

KR> test

[Dene Collett]

Testing new mail programme.

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
Port Elizabeth 
South Africa