KR> Fuel capacity

2015-08-24 Thread David Mullins
On my 3XL KR2S the Stub wing tanks calculated out to 14.5 Gal each.
They are aluminum following the contour of the airfoil between the
Spars. My stub wings are 2 feet long.  The Header tank, I am guest-a-mating
at 18-20 Gal. I will have to find that out when I fill it.

Dave Mullins
Nashua NH




On 8/23/2015 7:55 PM, Paul VISK via KRnet wrote:
> Yesterday I filled my out board wing tank and found it holds 10 gallons. With 
> my stub wing tanks of 4 gallons each.  I want to add a 10 gl header tank to 
> help with cg. Total of 38 gallons. What are some of fuel capacity of some of 
> the bigger tanks out there?  I'm thinking this might be a little to much. 
> I'll be putting on  a 3.0L Carvair.
>
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KR> Fuel capacity

2015-08-24 Thread Tommy Waymack
Good morning,My KR2 has a 24 gallon header tank.As mark says it is not user
friendly when working behind the panel.For day time VFR it is not a big
problem but once you start into high tech land it becomes an issue.An
example of flying long distance would be the trip made from Cross City
FL.to Pine Bluff,AR nonstop with an early GPS for hikers.5 hours 17
minutes.All the water bottles were full and some were emptied out the
landing gear holes.At 4 gallons per hour there was about 45 minutes
reserve[maybe].
What I remember is taking a lot of time to get out of the plane.The early
astronauts must have been a lot more heroic than I thought.Not many people
will ever spend that much time in the air unless they REALLY want to.It was
my personal best.Tommy W.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:36 AM, David Mullins via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> On my 3XL KR2S the Stub wing tanks calculated out to 14.5 Gal each.
> They are aluminum following the contour of the airfoil between the
> Spars. My stub wings are 2 feet long.  The Header tank, I am guest-a-mating
> at 18-20 Gal. I will have to find that out when I fill it.
>
> Dave Mullins
> Nashua NH
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/23/2015 7:55 PM, Paul VISK via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I filled my out board wing tank and found it holds 10 gallons.
>> With my stub wing tanks of 4 gallons each.  I want to add a 10 gl header
>> tank to help with cg. Total of 38 gallons. What are some of fuel capacity
>> of some of the bigger tanks out there?  I'm thinking this might be a little
>> to much. I'll be putting on  a 3.0L Carvair.
>>
>> Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705
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KR> Foam

2015-08-24 Thread ml at n56ml.com


KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread laser147 at juno.com
There seems to be a lot of concern about having so much fuel capacity
that the flight will be so lengthy that the pilot's bladder capacity will
be exceeded.  Pilots & aircraft manufacturers solved this problem in the
early days of aviation and I'm astonished that some members of the KR
community are apparently oblivious of this aspect of aviation history. 
For situations where pilot or passenger bladder capacity is exceeded or
about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".  
These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.


>From Wikipedia:

> "Many high-performance light aircraft, helicopters and some smaller
turboprop aircraft use bladder tanks."

Now you know!  You can buy them ready to go or we can build them
ourselves.  Naturally we would want to build our own bladder tanks.  

I don't have one and must confess I've had to make occasional emergency
descents to strange airports whose residents were startled to see my tiny
plane appearing unexpectedly out of the blue at high speed only to
disappear into the bushes.   Putting in a bladder tank has been on my
to-do list since the beginning but it has so far not become enough of a
critical issue to actually do it.

Mike
KSEE


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KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread Joe. E. Wallace
However, relief tubes do not require dumping?!

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

> 
> about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".  
> These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.




KR> Foam

2015-08-24 Thread Robert Dunleavy
I also received my plans, thanks Steve..robert duneavy 


 On Monday, August 24, 2015 12:38 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet  wrote:



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KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread Paul VISK
Tony,?I'm ?on the same page as you are. I would love to have the range to be 
able to fly from Seattle to Ketchikan Ak. or Miami to the Turks and Caicos 
Islands non stop. It might be by my self but what a trip.I have a medical 
condition which requires me to drink a lot of water. ?Bladder relief has never 
been an issue with me being an over the road truck driver and the most I can 
drive now is eight hours without a thirty minuet ?break.?
Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: Tony King via KRnet  Date: 8/24/2015  4:45 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Tony King  Subject: Re: KR> Fuel 
Capacity 
Mike,

I can't tell whether your tougue is firmly in your cheek there - I think it
must be.? I always understood bladder tanks were an alternative approach to
having fuel vents, since the tank expands and contracts according to the
volume of fuel remaining.

For me there's little correlation between fuel capacity/range and bladder
capacity (or other elements of in flight comfort).? I want extended range
(well beyond bladder capacity) so I can go somewhere interesting and come
home again without refuelling.? There are lots of places in Australia where
fuel's not so readily available as it seems to be in the US.

Cheers,

Tony

On 25 August 2015 at 06:20, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet 
wrote:

> There seems to be a lot of concern about having so much fuel capacity
> that the flight will be so lengthy that the pilot's bladder capacity will
> be exceeded.? Pilots & aircraft manufacturers solved this problem in the
> early days of aviation and I'm astonished that some members of the KR
> community are apparently oblivious of this aspect of aviation history.
> For situations where pilot or passenger bladder capacity is exceeded or
> about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".
> These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.
>
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> > "Many high-performance light aircraft, helicopters and some smaller
> turboprop aircraft use bladder tanks."
>
> Now you know!? You can buy them ready to go or we can build them
> ourselves.? Naturally we would want to build our own bladder tanks.
>
> I don't have one and must confess I've had to make occasional emergency
> descents to strange airports whose residents were startled to see my tiny
> plane appearing unexpectedly out of the blue at high speed only to
> disappear into the bushes.?? Putting in a bladder tank has been on my
> to-do list since the beginning but it has so far not become enough of a
> critical issue to actually do it.
>
> Mike
> KSEE
>
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KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread peter
Relief tubes are vital for most flights, long or short, because drinking enough 
water to keep hydrated results in safer landings and safer taxi speeds (better 
mental acuity, and fewer bodily distractions in the last hour of confinement.) 
In the summer I freeze a water bottle to sit on during the hot climb to 
altitude, and drink it during the cruise portion. I learned this from 
motorcycle touring where dehydration is a killer. Peter




KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
 The first part of  a relief tube is uphill. Residual fluid has to
 go somewhere. Think Gravity, Virg


 On 8/24/2015 5:19 PM, Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet wrote:
> However, relief tubes do not require dumping?!
>
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
>
>> about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".
>> These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.
>
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KR> Less than 10 days to the Gathering!

2015-08-24 Thread John Bouyea
That's right; the 2015 KR Gathering at McMinnville just around the corner.

Quick update; 

*Dan stopped by this evening to pick up the check from Steve Glover
forwarding the funds remaining from the 2014 Chino Gathering @ $3266.12.
Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering books.

*I flew Saturday morning before the wildfire smoke brought visibility to
less than the VFR 3 mile limitation. The rest of Saturday and all Sunday we
had vis from 1.5 to 2 miles. If you're flying in, please check both TFRs and
weather conditions before you launch.

*Dan says the banquet menu will feature chicken parm or flank steak so bring
your appetite! 

*I've got an air-to-air camera platform arranged for Mark L. to wield his
magic. Sure hope I get the chance for one of his signature photos!

*No promises but Dan's working on a mystery guest!



Looking forward to seeing you soon at McMinnville.



John Bouyea

N5391M/ KR2

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR





KR> Fuel Capacity

2015-08-24 Thread jon kimmel
I was hoping my somewhat tongue in cheek comment would cause some stir.

https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
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