Re: KR> New, old member

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Welcome back.

Can anyone help with the starter?

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 3:35 AM Gary Sack via KRnet 
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> Hi all, I am Gary Sack and have flown N81JM a retractable KR II for thirty
> years. I used to correspond when the KR newsletter was on paper...I'm not
> much of a computer person.
> My question is...does anyone know what starter will fit on  HAPI 1834
> case? Ideally, a modern geared starter?
> One comment concerning rockers. When I bought her, she had ball rockers
> which the seller had proudly installed. Over the years, I had two slip off
> the valve stems. One went unnoticed till I checked the valves. The other
> caused compression loss in that cylinder during a long cross country. You
> bet I noticed. I have replaced the heads and have gone back to stock
> rockers with no problems since.
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KR> 2019

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

The dates for our gathering will be Sept 26-28 (thur-fri) 2019. This is the
week after zenith. I just got done talking with Sebastian at zenith.

Ken Hurley
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Re: KR> Gathering

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'll fly over the Rockies next year and see ya. Making that stop in
Montrose.

Ken Hurley

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 11:49 AM Roger Bulla via KRnet 
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> Kim and I returned to Grand Junction yesterday. It was a great flight
> across the Midwest and a spectacular ride over the Colorado Rockies.
>
> It was a great Gathering. Good to see everyone.
>
> Thanks to all who worked to make it happen.
>
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Re: KR> Painting the engine mount

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Shop around and have it powder coated. It'll last a lifetime. No do overs.

Ken Hurley

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 5:44 AM Ppaulvsk via KRnet 
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> As I mentioned before my initial weight and balance  came out ok.  I don't
> need to reposition my engine.I'm looking at options of painting my engine
> mount. I know powder coating is an option but I don't know anything about
> it and is relatively expensive.  Does anyone have any suggestions.
>
>
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Re: KR> lost watch?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Now you know why I use stream gauges.

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 5:06 PM Flesner via KRnet 
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> On 9/17/2018 3:11 PM, Ken Hurley via KRnet wrote:
> > When the battery runs down it's only correct 2 times @ day. Does that
> > help?
> >
> > Ken Hurley
>
> +++
>
> When the battery runs down on this one it will never be correct again.
>
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Re: KR> lost watch?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

When the battery runs down it's only correct 2 times @ day. Does that
help?

Ken Hurley

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 12:42 PM Flesner via KRnet 
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>
> Someone left a watch in the hangar bathroom.  Identify it and give me a
> mailing address.
>
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> Gathering meals

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Thank you Larry for taking care of this. The food was excellent for the LSA
expo. Can't wait to get there tomorrow evening.

Ken Hurley

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 2:18 PM Larry via KRnet  wrote:

>
> Gathering attendees,
>
> I made the trip to Mt.Vernon, still here, to start setting up.  I spoke
> with Sean at the restaurant and he indicated he has gotten several calls
> concerning food and restaurant hours.  Sean has agree to stay open for
> meals after his Friday lunch.  Here is the schedule, *cast in stone*, of
> hours and menu.  Please direct any further questions to me personally.
> PLEASE REMEMBER, AFTER FRIDAY LUNCH, THE RESTAURANT IS ONLY OPEN TO
> SERVE THE KR CROWD.  DO YOUR BEST TO SHOW SEAN WE APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS
> AND GIVE HIM YOUR BUSINESS AND DON'T FORGET TO TIP.Flat rate means
> "no tax", straight up amount and includes drinks.  Eat dinner in the
> commons area Friday evening and enjoy the live music at 6:00PM,
> including the "Sanding Song #2" and for Larry Howell, "Yep, I'm
> officially old".
>
> *WILKEY’S- KR GATHERING - MEAL SCHEDULE*
>
> Friday Evening – September 14 – 5:30-6:30pm - Dinner
>
> $10.00 Flat
>
> Salad Bar, Beef Manhattan, Chicken Fried Steak, Small Buffet, Dessert,
> Drink
>
> Saturday Morning – September 15 – 7:30-9:00am - Breakfast
>
> $8.00 Flat
>
> Eggs, Meat, Biscuits and Gravy, Toast, Coffee, Juice, Soda
>
> Saturday Lunch – September 15 – 11:00-1:00pm – Lunch
>
> $8.00 Flat
>
> Burgers, Brats, Fries, Salad Bar, Drink
>
> Saturday Evening – September 15 – 5:30-7:00pm – Dinner
>
> $11.00 Flat
>
> Full Buffet: Salad Bar, Hot Bar with Veggies and Meats, Dessert Bar &
> Ice Cream
>
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Re: KR> Mt.Vernon weather this week

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Sure beats what I experienced this past Midwest LSA Expo. See you all
Thursday.



Thanks

Ken Hurley
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On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 8:57 PM Flesner via KRnet 
wrote:

>
>
>
> *Monday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 75. North northwest wind 3 to 6 mph.
> *Monday Night*
> Partly cloudy, with a low around 56. Calm wind.
> *Tuesday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 77. Calm wind becoming east around 5 mph
> in the afternoon.
> *Tuesday Night*
> Partly cloudy, with a low around 58. Light east northeast wind.
> *Wednesday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 80. East wind 3 to 6 mph.
> *Wednesday Night*
> Partly cloudy, with a low around 62. East northeast wind 3 to 5 mph.
> *Thursday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 83. Northeast wind 3 to 5 mph.
> *Thursday Night*
> Partly cloudy, with a low around 65. Light northeast wind.
> *Friday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 84. Calm wind becoming north around 5 mph
> in the afternoon.
> *Friday Night*
> Partly cloudy, with a low around 66. Light north wind.
> *Saturday*
> Mostly sunny, with a high near 86. Calm wind becoming north around 6 mph
> in the afternoon.
>
> If I were a politician I'd say I am a one man weather committee for the
> Gathering this year.  Not being a politician I'll defer to a higher
> power.
>
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Re: KR> Gathering meals

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

It was great seeing you today. Future weather forecast is KR GO! I'll see
everyone next Thursday. Unfortunately it driving mode instead of flying
mode.

Ken Hurley

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 7:05 PM Flesner via KRnet  wrote:

>
>
> Gathering attendees,
>
> I made the trek to Mt.Vernon today to see the Light Sport Expo and to
> talk to Chris and Sean (restaurant) and finalize plans for the
> Gathering.  My primary concern was with Sean and the restaurant.
>
> The restaurant hours are lunch, Monday thru Friday, closed weekends.
> Sean will open Saturday evening to feed us before the awards program.
> Here is the schedule on food:
>
> No breakfast at the restaurant any morning.
>
> Restaurant open for lunch Friday till 2:00PM
>
> Closed Saturday.  Open at 5:30 for dinner and cleanup.
>
> The only reason Sean is open Saturday evening is for the KR crowd. I
> will stop short of demanding that everyone eat there before the awards
> program but he is only doing this for us so lets show our appreciation
> and all eat there before the Awards program.  It will be his regular
> buffet with desserts and drinks.  Cost will be a flat $10 plus $1 or $2
> for drinks, no tax and don't forget to tip the help.  In the past I
> included a tip for the help when I paid for the banquet.
>
> Bottom line, no need to buy a banquet meal ticket this year.  Just show
> up and eat before the 7:00P.M. Awards program.  It all takes place in
> the terminal commons area.
>
> In the past Donnie had coffee and some breakfast items for us.  With
> Sean having just lost his father a couple of weeks back and just trying
> to keep the restaurant open for the two events, this week and next,  I
> didn't feel it was right to press him for any more than we are getting
> now.  Express your appreciation if possible.
>
> I spoke with Chris and he will find out at their Tuesday EAA meeting if
> they will have pizza for us (with a donation) for the Friday evening
> music event at 6:00P.M. and maybe a cookout for Saturday lunch.  I'll
> know by mid week.
>
> Hat and shirt sales will be limited to the hours between 10:00 and
> 2:00PM this year so we don't have to ask someone to man the table for 6
> or 7 hours a day.  If you didn't order a hat / shirt but want one, check
> to see if we have extras left for purchase.
>
> I'll post any additional info as I get it.
>
> Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Marty Roberts sold great plains. I'll look up who bought it.

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 12:35 PM tinyauto--- via KRnet 
wrote:

>
> I know the guy that owned it passed away, but thought someone else took
> over.
>
>
> Kevin in Missouri
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Terence Teer via KRnet 
> To: krnet 
> Cc: Terence Teer 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 10:25 am
> Subject: KR> Great Plains Aircraft?
>
> Does anyone know if Great Plains Aircraft is still around? Issues? I’ve
> ordered a few things from them about two weeks ago ( online ) with no
> response. Tried calling them to order but no response. Email with no
> response. Voice mail says “Don’t leave message, call when open”. No luck on
> all accounts. What gives?Terry
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Re: KR> Fixed landing gear KR2

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Mine has never ran correctly (I'm not the original purchaser either). Gonna
take a couple of months in shipping and repairing. I'll be flying next year.

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 6:03 AM Chris Kinnaman via KRnet 
wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Is there a recall on Rotec TBIs? I have 2 in boxes plus one on my R3600
> and I'm not the original purchaser of any of them.
>
> Chris K
>
>
> On 8/26/2018 7:50 PM, Ken Hurley via KRnet wrote:
> > Rotec has thrown a slow down. I've got to send my throttle body to
> > Australia. 2 months of delay.
> >
> > Ken Hurley
> >
> >
>
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Re: KR> Fixed landing gear KR2

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Rotec has thrown a slow down. I've got to send my throttle body to
Australia. 2 months of delay.

Ken Hurley

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 8:36 PM Mike Sylvester via KRnet 
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> Ken, it's time to get busy flying. You're so close to being in the air and
> now you're gonna add another six months.
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
>
> Cell no.205-966-3854
>
>
> ________
> From: KRnet  on behalf of Ken Hurley via
> KRnet 
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:22 PM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Ken Hurley
> Subject: KR> Fixed landing gear KR2
>
> After some serious checking out I'm going to change my retrac landing
> gear to fixed. If anyone has any parts for this and you're going to the
> gathering next month I'd pick them up there.
>
>
>
> Thanks
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KR> Fixed landing gear KR2

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

After some serious checking out I'm going to change my retrac landing
gear to fixed. If anyone has any parts for this and you're going to the
gathering next month I'd pick them up there.

Also I have a KR2 (boat only with wings) with a boat trailer I'd like to
sell. I could bring it to the gathering as well. For pictures go the F/B (
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211982232182355&set=gm.778517342318622&type=3&theater&ifg=1
) and if you want the plane and trailer $1,300.

I also have a 1835 VW with an Ellison Throttle Body and a EIS 2,000 $2,500
and prop. If you want everything I will talk turkey.

Cash only

Cell,,,, 417-324-2196 (text).



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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Awesome

Ken Hurley

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 7:07 AM Richard Kaczmarek via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Lesson I have learned over the years is go with one that is ground
> adjustable. This will let you dial everything in better. We went from a
> fixed pitch to a ground adjustable and thou the original prop worked great
> the new prop got us more. We started with our original setting and the
> plane actually performed a bit better. We figured this was because it was a
> different prop and different manufacturer from the old original one. After
> about 10 we decided to play with the pitch. 2 degs got us another 100 fpm
> climb and about 5knots more cruise.
>
> Richard
> Fast Little Airplanes
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 1:22 AM Christopher Pryce via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Dan Weseman at flywithspa.com sells Sensenich props that are custom
> > designed for Corvairs.
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I've bought a prop from them and it has worked very well.

https://www.facebook.com/CulverProps/



Thanks

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:47 AM Pete Klapp via KRnet 
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> Netters
>
> The time has come to purchase a prop for me project. Not sure which one I
> will purchase (Sensnich, Prince, Sterba) but I'm not sure what info is
> needed. My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 HP at 3100 RPM
> which will probably be WOT for take-off. what other info do I need to
> supply to a prop manufacturer.
>
> Pete Klapp, almost done building N729PK,
>
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KR> 2019

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Hi gang, can't wait to see everyone in Mt. Vernon, IL next month.

After much deliberation,,, I will not make a proposal to host the KR event
in 2019.



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Re: KR> Mogas Blues.

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

All I've seen around here is 91. That's what I'm gonna use. However if
you're gonna use that it is recommended that you have a recirculation
(insulated) love installed if you're using a throttle body system.

Ken Hurley

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 5:40 PM Ppaulvsk via KRnet 
wrote:

> The private  airport I fly out of (1IL4) just put in a fuel tank for
> ethanol-free gas.  But the problem is it's only 91 octane.  I've noticed
> most gas stations have 93 octane.Question,  Is 91 octane normal for ethanol
> free or is 93 octane available ethanol free.
>
>
> Paul ViskBelleville Il.618-406-4705
>  Original message From: Mike T via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> Date: 8/11/18  3:24 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> Cc: Mike T  Subject: Re: KR>
> Mogas Blues.
> I wish FBOs at airports would just sell ethanol-free auto gas.  Then people
> could use it with confidence or blend it with 100 LL to get whatever lead
> level they wanted.
>
> Mike Taglieri
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 12:07 PM Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> wrote:
>
> > A few months would be about the right timing.  I started using this
> > particular station/blend (Murphy Oil, Ash Flat, AR) in March or April.
> In
> > July, I suddenly had failures in my fueling rig and multiple leaks in the
> > fuel tanks and fuel system in one plane.  The other plane only shows
> > etching of the (hirshman) slosh compound in the tanks.
> >
> > The fueling rig and my planes have been running on Mogas from a single
> > source in NM for many years.  Never saw any sign of degradation to the
> > fueling rig or the fuel systems on the planes.  The problem is that all
> we
> > can test for is presence of Alcohol.  I tested each 100 gallon load of
> fuel
> > purchased, and tested the fuel after draining it back out of the planes.
> > No alcohol was present.  I don't know what was blended with this fuel to
> > cause the damage, so don't know how to test or ask other vendors about
> > their fuels.  Testing by putting the integrity of my fuel systems at risk
> > is folly.  That effectively renders Mogas unsafe for me to use in the
> > future.
> >
> > Thanks for the research and discussion.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:49 PM
> > From: "Jeff York via KRnet" 
> > To: KRnet 
> > Cc: "Jeff York" 
> > Subject: Re: KR> Mogas Blues.
> > Jeff Scott,
> > As promised I was finally able to run down my next door neighbor from
> > Valvoline.
> >
> > Im going to try and glean this down as,we talked about your situation for
> > over an hour. He said that the mogas you started using just since April
> > could not by itself have compromised your fuel system. He said that they
> > sold to Marathon a few years back but that only a few refineries exsist
> in
> > the USA. About 6 or so. That they, Marathon and most refiners refine just
> > gas and that the additives are put in at the blending station at the time
> > the tanker truck is filling. That blending stations contain the additives
> > per the brands specifications. Now, not knowing the additives of the
> > different mogas locations or brands you used or the state requirements
> and
> > differences between the two different states you bought your mogas, he is
> > not sure of your mogas formula which even same brand in two different
> > states could make for different additive blends of the same brand. All
> this
> > said, he thinks your fuel system when it was introduced to mogas from a
> > different state had a different additive that reacted to the compromised
> > fuel system resulting in you fuel system break downs. He said this takes
> > considerable time but cautioned aircraft with fuel systems that are not
> > using fuel components not capable of ethanol may be subject to fuel
> > contamination or damage when flown on a cross country and the different
> > blend bought at a different state or location may result in an issue.
> But,
> > he thinks the issue would not be immediate. Hense it took a few months
> for
> > your issues to arise. I hope I explained that correctly.
> >
> > Jeff York
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018, 8:36 PM Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > After years of running Mogas in both the O-200 in my KR, and the O-320
> in
> > > my SuperCub, I have run into a particularly nasty bunch of Mogas after
> > > moving to Arkansas. In NM, I had a good source for alcohol free premium
> > > Mogas and burned it for y

Re: KR> Mogas Blues.

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'm using Eaton Synflex Solstice 4247-041 Air Brake Performance. Meets
SAEJ844 Type A 1/4" OD. DOT 1913 (08/14). It is used on semi's air braking
system which can withstand high consentrations of alcohol (if the air line
freezes in the winter they pour several ounces of alcohol to thaw the lines
out).






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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet 
wrote:

> Netters
>
> Does anyone know of a particular fuel hose that is not affected by
> ethanol-laced fuel. I need to find a suitable hose to complete my fuel line
> to the Ellison fuel injector.
>
> Pete Klapp
>
>
> 
> From: KRnet  on behalf of Mark Langford via
> KRnet 
> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2018 3:42 PM
> To: Jeff Scott via KRnet
> Cc: Mark Langford
> Subject: Re: KR> Mogas Blues.
>
>   See enclosed photo of what some
> chemicals can to do high quality aircraft hose, not to mention carbs,
> pumps, etc.
>
>
> Check out the enclosed photo
>
> Mark Langford
> m...@n56ml.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
> Mark Langford's KR2S<http://www.n56ml.com/>
> www.n56ml.com
> Mark Langford's Homebuilt Airplane and Online Builder's Manual. Updated
> January 2017 - Another update to the KR2 refurb project, N891JF.. Just to
> let you know that I am still flying, and I now have 1130 hours on the plane.
>
>
>
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Re: KR> Mogas Blues.

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'm sealing my wing tanks with a product from KBS Coatings
(KBS-Coatings.com). Randy,  877-548-9323 ext 123, was very helpful. I hope
to eliminate future problems.

Ken Hurley

On Aug 4, 2018 7:36 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet"  wrote:

After years of running Mogas in both the O-200 in my KR, and the O-320 in
my SuperCub, I have run into a particularly nasty bunch of Mogas after
moving to Arkansas.  In NM, I had a good source for alcohol free premium
Mogas and burned it for years with no issues at all.  But after moving to a
new area, other than testing for alcohol, how does one verify that the
mogas being sold is free of any detrimental chemicals?

In April I started running a new brand of premium Mogas (everything where I
moved is new to me).  Testing for Alcohol showed it to be alcohol free.
This summer I was away from the planes for a few weeks.  When I got back to
them, the flow meter on my fueling rig had failed (plastic gear that runs
submerged in fuel failed), there were several leaks in my fueling rig,
including the fuel nozzle and the hoses.  At the same time, both tanks in
my supercub developed leaks and the O-rings in my primer failed.  I'm not
sure what kind of additive is in this fuel, but whatever it is dissolves
epoxy, pipe dopes, and damages neoprene rubber.Impressive.  I was in a
real panic as I had been running this stuff in both planes.

I have spent the last 2 weeks working on the fueling rig and the planes,
and trying to assess the damage to the planes.  What I found is, the epoxy
tanks in the SuperCub are both compromised and leaking at points where
there were penetrations through the tanks for various plumbing parts like
the fuel drains and fuel pickups.  I will have to cut the tanks open and
repair from the inside, which will give me a chance to better assess the
damage.  Additionally, the O-rings in my 2 year old primer failed.  New
O-rings and some fuel lube fixed the primer problem.

The fueling rig in my truck (12V fuel pump, flow meter, filter assy, and
fuel nozzle all mounted to a 110G steel tank) had to have new hoses, the
1-1/2 and 2 inch piping had to be dismantled and put back together with new
pipe dope.  The fuel meter had to be replaced.  And the fuel nozzle needs
new O-rings.

I drained the tanks on the KR, which are also epoxy, but were sloshed with
an alcohol resistant slosh compound 22 years ago.  Upon inspection I can
see that the fuel etched the surface of the slosh compound, but I can't
find any peeling or flaking compound; and I have no leaks.  So at least the
KR is OK for now.

Not looking for advice, but am putting this out there for discussion.  I'd
love to hear ideas about how one verifies that the fuel is good other than
testing for alcohol.  I don't need to hear about the wonders of vinylester
as that was an unknown at the time my KR was built, and the tanks in the
Cub were already built when I bought the project.

For now, the KR is still flyable.  But it is unlikely I'll complete the
fuel tank and wing repairs to the SuperCub before late fall.

-Jeff Scott
Cherokee Village, AR
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KR> KR2

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Well I'm getting closer to having my plane ready to fly. Last coat of
primer and final sanding. Gonna seal my wing tanks Friday. The entire plane
will be ready for paint by Tuesday night. Yep they're is light at the end
of the tunnel and it isn't a train. I'll post some pictures on FB.

Ken Hurley
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Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

That sounds great.

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 7:00 PM Flesner via KRnet  wrote:

> On 7/9/2018 6:14 PM, Ken Hurley via KRnet wrote:
> > Can we have this on the agenda for our gathering this year?
> >
> > Ken Hurley
>
> +++
>
>
> As this is a "pilots only" issue I'd suggest it be an agenda item for a
> campfire meeting.  One hand to hold a cold one and the other to vote with.
>
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Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Can we have this on the agenda for our gathering this year?

Ken Hurley

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 6:02 PM Mark Wegmet via KRnet 
wrote:

> Another smaller option would be Burlington Municipal (KBUU) which is a
> smaller non-towered airport with a nice paved runway and easy access to
> town. Again, contact with airport management would be needed - I don't know
> if they allow camping or have enough facilities for a large group, although
> the FBO is accessible 24/7 with prior notice. Details are on the site.
> Check
> http://www.burlington-wi.gov/130/Airport for contact info. It is also
> about
> the same distance by air and avoids the melee around Whitman and the
> surrounding airports.
>
> Mark W.
> N952MW
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Langford
> via KRnet
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 6:48 AM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: m...@n56ml.com
> Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 2019
>
> Mark Wegmet wrote:
>
> > A fair number of folks use Kenosha Regional (KENW) as a stopping
> > off/practice location.
>
> I guess I'm borderline anti-social, but I'd rather stop at a small
> airport that's not so popular.  I think the idea is a great onewe
> used to go to Mark Jones' place in Stevens Point, and we had a blast
> hanging out and swapping stories, cooking out, and have a beer or two
> the night before, leaving early the next morning.  I do like the idea of
> furthering this tradition, and second the motion of finding a suitable
> place next year to do this...maybe even this year.   I regret that it'll
> cost us money to stay in a hotel, but it'll be worth it to get in early,
> beating the crosswinds and more importantly, the traffic. It might even
> be possible to camp at the airport, if we can get that lucky. It also
> helps us get a great parking space out in front of Homebuilders
> Headquarters, and eliminates a lot of potential weather problems when
> you're only a half hour away.
>
> One thing I'd like to add to Larry's excellent OSH writeup is to feel
> free to go back to Ripon if things get too bunched up in front of you.
> It wouldn't be an OSH arrival if several folks didn't descend or climb
> up in front of you, gutting your gap in half.  It makes maintaining 90
> knots and 1800' a lot harder than it sounds.  One year I went back to
> Ripon twice before I finally got lucky and made it all the way in.  The
> best way for KRs to do this is to all go in together, with our speed,
> altitude, and spacing all set up as we get to Ripon, forcing everybody
> else to work around us.  If we go in early though, traffic shouldn't be
> a big deal.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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KR> 4 Sale

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I have a KR2 for sale (no engine or gauges). Make offer. I have a 1835 with
Ellison and EIS 2,000 that I would sell with it or just the airplane. The
place where I have it stored has sold. Here's the link:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211982232182355&set=gm.778517342318622&type=3&theater&ifg=1



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KR> Oshkosh 2019

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

How about organizing a location close to Oshkosh that we meet at and then
fly together to Oshkosh? We got a year to plan.

Can we talk about it at our gathering in September?

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Re: KR> Update

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Thank you Larry.

Ken Hurley

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 10:50 AM Flesner via KRnet 
wrote:

> On 7/8/2018 10:41 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet wrote:
> Whoever has this web site, can you please update it? Also I can't remember
> the web address for 2018 listing.
> http://krgathering.com/
> Ken Hurley
> 
>
> I think that Steve at NVaero has that site.
>
> The site for the KR Gathering this year is   www.krgathering.net
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Update

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Whoever has this web site, can you please update it? Also I can't remember
the web address for 2018 listing.

http://krgathering.com/



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KR> July 7 & 8

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I posted some pics of a steam engine and threshing equipment on the Rand
Robinson FB page. Fly up Saturday and enjoy the day. MO9, Miller, MO!

Ken Hurley
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Re: KR> OSH Gathering - Time to Poke the Bears!

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I was looking at hosting the event in 2019 at MO9, Miller, Missouri.
However I would yield to an Oshkosh event (when you host it's hard to fly
in). Meeting new KR people would be interesting.

Anyone else have any input?

Ken Hurley

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 8:14 PM svd via KRnet  wrote:

> Seems like a good time to stir the muck and get a little hate from ya all.
>
> How about having the KR Gathering at AirVenture?  I would be happy to help
> organize.
>
> Yes - AirVenture is crowded and difficult - especially to fun fly during
> the event.  But it is also a central unifying event - one which attracts
> folk from all over the world - even New Zealand!
>
> Flying in/out of OSH is a little more challenging than an deserted
> mid-west uncontrolled field - but it is remarkably easy if you can read
> (notams) and have a radio.
>
> I (and most of us I am guessing) have to prioritize our free time and can
> only really make one big airplane event a year (if that). While I would
> love to attend a KR Gathering, I can not yet justify the costs in time and
> $ in light of the many other demands.
>
> IMHO greater attendance of a OSH KR Gathering and public exposure trumps
> bucolic. In addition to a wider audience, an AirVenture KR Gathering could
> more easily draw on outside expertise and attendees could learn from the
> unparalleled gathering of resources and vendors gathered at OSH.
>
> Yes, the one or two KR’s  that show up at OSH don’t draw much interest,
> but I imagine that might be different with 10 or 20.
>
> I am aware that the “choosing” mechanism for where to “Gather” is at the
> “Gather” and not here in a publicly available venue.  But I thought I’d
> just put it out there.  If the only “vote that counts” for choosing where
> to Gather is _only_ at the gathering, then it very neatly excludes the
> concerns of anyone not at the gathering (by definition).
>
>
> All that and I am not even going to make OSH this year.  But next year I
> will work on at least a KR meet up at OSH.
>
> Cheers,
> Owen Hughes
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KR> KR2

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'm working on my KR2 to get it flying this month. I may need some
guideance on getting the FAA blessing to fly it. I'll make a list of what I
think I need and post later. While it's 90 degrees + on earth, it isn't
that hot in the air! I've never flown a tail dragger. I've got a few
friends that fly them all the time and are will to help teach me the ground
procedures!

Up in the air this month,,,,,, is my goal!



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Re: KR> A successful first flight for another KR2S

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

And they're both expensive. And at least the plane wants to fly.

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

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> There is nothing better than flying! (well maybe one).
>
>
> Joe Nunley Baker Florida
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Re: KR> A successful first flight for another KR2S

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Roger where at in Oklahoma?

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:12 AM RB via KRnet  wrote:

> All,
> I logged .5 hrs  yesterday in 738EM.   Flys great, I think.  I planned on
> running another h/speed taxi since some time has passed from previous run.
> Well, I just kept the throttle in and pulled back  on the stick and off it
> went.  Typical KR touches required on pitch and roll. Heading out for more
> today.  Sorry.  No photos of a KR grin.  It was there.
> Let the testing commence.
>
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> Oklahoma
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Re: KR> KR-2 currency/training

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I couldn't find the link. Please repost.

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Tue, May 15, 2018, 3:06 PM Rene Ffrench via KRnet 
wrote:

> Bruce,   Here's a link to a really interesting student trainer!!!   KR-2S
>
> Cheers,
> R'
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Jeff Carney via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Been out of the cockpit for nearly a year. Previously flying weekly if
> not
> > daily.  Need help getting current in my KR-2.
> > Located in northern middle Tn. will do anything legal and moral to get
> the
> > right help.
> > Thanks, Jeff Carney
> > 615-406-9210
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On May 15, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On the front page of this morning's Barnstormers email was Ken Thomas's
> > KR-2S.  Ken was a big man, and built it to fit a big man.  I only saw
> this
> > plane briefly a number of years ago, but it looked to be a really nice
> KR.
> > With the 6 cyl Jabiru, it's also a good performer.  Currently listed at
> > $13,900.
> > >
> > > <https://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=1365768>
> > >
> > > -Jeff Scott
> > > Cherokee Village, AR
> > >
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KR> KR2 & 1835 VW engine for sale

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I have a KR2 and a 1835 VW engine for sale, $3,000 OBO I will seel just the
plane for $800 OBO.

KR2 info at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/KR2S.aircraft/

It was a Tri-cycle converted to tail (modifications worked).

VW Motor, Ellison Throttle Body, Diehl case, EIS system.

If you want more info contact me.



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Re: KR> new KR synergy in the southeast/midwest

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Hey Rob,,, if you wait long enough I'll be flying!

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 7:39 PM Robert7721 via KRnet 
wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> I am hoping to find the time to get down and see Ken, but it has been a
> rough spring. I had delayed a couple KR maintenance issues and finally have
> that cleared up. Now my job is so hectic it might take away a few more
> weekends. Oh I dream of retirement!  So it is probably a month out before I
> can make a fly out commitment.  So don't wait up for me, I'll join in soon
> as I am able.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > There are more KRs around and we should get together occasionally.  Rob
> Schmitt and I should meet up at Kingsley Field near Springfield, MO some
> time soon.  Ken Hurley can join us there.  That's a short flight for us.
> Once Roger Baalman gets his time flown off, he can join us.  That's close
> enough Terry Chizak will likely join in if he's not off to some other end
> of the country.  Maybe we can coax Russ Barnett to fly his 150/150 over to
> join us as it's really close by for him. Maybe we can even get Stephen
> Teate to fly up in his hot rod KR once he gets his time flown off.  What do
> you say Rob?  I've scoped out the restaurant at Kingsley.  The food and
> setting couldn't be better.  We should do a trial run soon.
> >
> > Mark, Larry and I had a good time yesterday. The FBO at Bolivar, TN was
> very quiet and very accommodating. Had a nice room where we could sit and
> talk before we headed off for home. Had a nice car for us to use. Could
> only have been better if Mike, Robert & Steve Bray
> > had been able to make it.  We did demonstrate a complete inaptitude for
> ground navigation, but the rural tour was pleasant.
> >
> >  -Jeff Scott
> > Cherokee Village, AR
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 at 5:00 AM
> > From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> > Cc: m...@n56ml.com
> > Subject: KR> new KR synergy in the southeast/midwest
> > KRnetHeads,
> >
> > Now that the sucky winter is finally over, the KRs are coming out to see
> > the world again. Last weekend I met Joe Horton in Lewisburg, West
> > Virginia, for lunch. We met halfway between his place in Pennsylvania
> > and mine in Alabama. We sat in the airport restaurant and talked for a
> > couple of hours, and got to log some KR time too!
> >
> > This weekend I met up with Jeff Scott and Larry Flesner in Bolivar, in
> > far western Tennessee, the center spot between Jeff, Larry, me, Mike
> > Sylvester, and Robert Pesak. Mike would have been there, but was
> > parking planes at his home airport next to the Taladega race track, and
> > Robert was busy getting Roger Baalman some KR stick time. We'll do this
> > again, maybe monthly or so, as it's a quick trip for all of us, and we
> > can sit around and talk KRs, aviation, and just about anything, with
> > good friends we've had for decades now. Bolivar had a very
> > accommodating airport, an awesome courtesy car (pristine "police chief's
> > car), and a few decent places to eat nearby. Lewisburg had a very nice
> > airport restaurant right there at the airport, but I'm not entirely
> > convinced that I didn't get food poisoning from the salad I had there.
> > Whatever it was, it was good for four days off from work and now missing
> > from my life (drugs are a wonderful thing), so I'm not complaining!
> >
> > My point is, the fact that Mike and Robert have recently spread their KR
> > wings and are all over the skies now, and Jeff is a lot closer in
> > Arkansas, we are now only an hour or two apart by KR time machine.
> > Let's get some more KRs in the air, and have more "KR flash mobs"
> > showing up at local airports all over the countryand the world! You
> > guys don't know what you're missing! Don't be like so many KR
> > builders.just not getting anything done, eventually selling it for
> > partsget your butt in gear and do something constructive!
> >
> > Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> > ML "at" N56ML.com
> > www.N56ML.com[http://www.N56ML.com]
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KR> KR2 for sale

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I have a project KR2 for sale. I'll post pic on F/B
https://www.facebook.com/groups/KR2S.aircraft/

It was a flying plane at one time. Some hanger rash but sound. If you want
a VW1835 with Ellison and EIS system you can purchase both or just the
airplane.



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Re: KR> Sun N Fun

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

And here in SW Missouri SNOW!

I'm glad you had fun in the sun.

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 9:20 AM Mike Sylvester via KRnet 
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> Hey Guys, Got home from SNF about 10:00 last night. With stops for gas and
> meals it was about 10 hours of driving. Yes we drove, wanted to fly but
> would not have been able to get home with the weather sitting over Alabama.
> Had a good time and the weather down there was awesome. A little
> disappointed in the shortage of homebuilts but I'm sure the weather kept
> people from flying like it did me. The closest thing I saw to a KR was Bill
> Clapp promoting his Saberwing aircraft and Corvair engines. I see all the
> differing kits and think to myself, I could build that, Then I come to my
> senses and realize it's time to put some hours on the one I already have.
> Call me for lunch when the weather clears !!!
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
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> Birmingham,AL.
>
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Re: KR> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Gotta get bigger tires.

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On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 5:57 PM Joe via KRnet  wrote:

>
>
> Try northern Wisconsin, 12-15 inches of snow and high winds.
>
> Joe
>
> -From: "Flesner via KRnet"
> To: "Jeff Scott via KRnet"
> Cc: "Flesner"
> Sent: Saturday April 14 2018 10:02:00AM
> Subject: Re: KR> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018
>
>  On 4/14/2018 8:54 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote
>  > Is anyone plan on flying out to MO9 today?
>  >
>  > Ken Hurley 417-343-6888
>  > --
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>
>  Larry Flesner
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Re: KR> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Is anyone plan on flying out to MO9 today? We've had rain so I don't see
any plowing demos. 18/36 with wsw winds gusting to 22 (cross winds).

If you do fly out please be careful.

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:16 PM Ken Hurley  wrote:

> Latest weather: MO9
> PM Rain/Wind
> 45°27°
> 70%
> WNW 20 mph 77%
>
> UV INDEXSUNRISESUNSETMOONRISEMOONSET
>
> 4 of 10
> 6:47 am
> 7:59 pm
> 6:21 am
> 6:39 pm
> Becoming windy. Cloudy skies with periods of rain developing in the
> afternoon. High around 45F. Winds WNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 70%.
> Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken Hurley
> kenhurle...@gmail.com
> 417-343-6888
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:31 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Please check weather conditions for this Saturday at MO9 before flying in.
>>
>> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018 Runway 18/36 Grass 3,300' with 1,875 Hard
>> Surface (info on maps not up to date). I learned to fly in high winds,
>> however I might have 2nd thoughts for Saturday. Please be careful.
>>
>> Partly Cloudy/Wind 48°30° 0% WSW 22 mph 56%
>> UV INDEX Windy with increasing clouds. High 48F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30
>> mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: KR> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018

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Latest weather: MO9
PM Rain/Wind
45°27°
70%
WNW 20 mph 77%

UV INDEXSUNRISESUNSETMOONRISEMOONSET

4 of 10
6:47 am
7:59 pm
6:21 am
6:39 pm
Becoming windy. Cloudy skies with periods of rain developing in the
afternoon. High around 45F. Winds WNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 70%.
Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph.




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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:31 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet 
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> Please check weather conditions for this Saturday at MO9 before flying in.
>
> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018 Runway 18/36 Grass 3,300' with 1,875 Hard
> Surface (info on maps not up to date). I learned to fly in high winds,
> however I might have 2nd thoughts for Saturday. Please be careful.
>
> Partly Cloudy/Wind 48°30° 0% WSW 22 mph 56%
> UV INDEX Windy with increasing clouds. High 48F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30 mph.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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KR> MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Please check weather conditions for this Saturday at MO9 before flying in.

MO9 Saturday April 14, 2018 Runway 18/36 Grass 3,300' with 1,875 Hard
Surface (info on maps not up to date). I learned to fly in high winds,
however I might have 2nd thoughts for Saturday. Please be careful.

Partly Cloudy/Wind 48°30° 0% WSW 22 mph 56%
UV INDEX Windy with increasing clouds. High 48F. Winds WSW at 20 to 30 mph.



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KR> Saturday fly-in

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Please check the weather for MO9. The runner is longer than what's out
there. Around 3,300'. Hard surface is around 1,875'. Draft horses and
aircraft. Plus the Hanger Kafe. If not too windy, skydiving to. My cell is
417-343-6888. See you Saturday.

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Re: KR> Sun N Fun

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Prayers from here. Hope all is well with your mom.

Ken Hurley 417-343-6888

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 9:22 PM mark jones via KRnet 
wrote:

> Does not look like I’m going to make it to SnF. Had to drive up to Georgia
> today. My mother (93) is going in for heart surgery  tomorrow morning. I
> was really looking forward to SnF. Have fun guys and fly / drive safe.
>
> Mark Jones
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6
>
> > On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Mike Sylvester wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Guys, I'm not seeing any information on anyone going to Sun N Fun.
> OK, OK, I'll start. Looks like I'm trying for Friday and come home Sunday.
> All of this is subject to change because of weather. If you are going,
> where are you staying and any other info that you would like to divulge.
> Come on guys, let's get the party started.
> >
> > I'm shooting for SNF, and perhaps Joe Horton if the weather works.  I'm
> also thinking show up for Friday.  Last time I camped at Homebuilt Camping,
> but it's a shame to not put the KRs out on the flightline if possible.
> Last time I went, things were pretty sparse, with what seemed like 95% RVs
> out on the flightline, and not much else.  If you believe weather forecasts
> a week out (and I don't), Friday and Saturday look fine, but Sunday may be
> a problem with rain and thunderstorms most of the day, not to mention
> winds.   We'll have to check when it gets closer, but I might head back on
> Saturday, depending.
> >
> > Mark Langford
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KR> grass runway

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

On a grass runway, what length of runway is comfortable for you to use? VW
1835cc 650 # airplane (without pilot and passenger). 1,200' altitude. No
flaps or belly board (belly board can be added). SW to NE runway (N & S
winds prevailing).



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KR> Mini spring fly-in

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Just a reminder that on Saturday April 14, 2018 for those of you who can
fly, drive, parachute in, come to MO9 The Hanger Kafe and see draft horses
plowing a field, people parachuting, and all sorts of aircraft at MO9!

I'd like to host the annual KR fly-in in Sept of 2019 or 2020. There's a
meeting room we can have seminars in, great food, camping (electric, water,
and sewer is available) and just plain fun in rural Missouri. 100 LL and
Jet A available. For those that want to stay in a motel Mt. Vernon is about
8 miles to the south. I'd arrange a shuttle bus for lodging. However
staying at the airport would be a blast. Bond fires, remote control
aircrafts, and even maybe a kite or two could happen.



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Re: KR> Tippins KR2S and Photos

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Your can post them on the KR2s FB page.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 11:54 AM svd via KRnet  wrote:

>
> Hi Adam,
>
> This forum don’t really support photos in order to avoid bloat.
>
> However, you can easily share pictures by placing them in a photo album on
> the KRaircraft Yahoo group - and then pasting the link to them here on the
> forum.
>
> The KRaircraft Yahoo group:
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>
> Go to the photos at:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/info <
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/info>
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/photos/photostream <
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/photos/photostream>
>
> and click on "+New Album”  (purple button top right)
> Title and add some information on on what’s in the album, and then click
> on the "^Add Photos” button.
>
> Click the “Personal” option to make it your album that only you can change.
>
> Once you’ve picked the photos you want to share, click the purple “Post
> Photos” button.
>
> You can go back any time to edit the album of photos, adding, removing, or
> tilting photos.
>
> You can get the link to the album simply by clicking on the album, then
> selecting and copying the link from the address bar at the top of your
> browser. Something like:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/photos/albums/16747794 <
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KRaircraft/photos/albums/1381226630>
>
> Copy and past these album links into messages on the forum.
>
> There are other more powerful photo sharing sites, but this one is free,
> pretty easy, and a “collected central” location for KR aircraft related
> photos.  Additionally, while nothing is permanent in the Internet, the
> Yahoo Groups is about as close to it as I’ve found.
>
> Cheers,
> Owen
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org  krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:38:02 -0400
> > From: Adam mailto:adamtip...@gmail.com>>
> > To: KRnet mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>>
> > Subject: KR> Tippin?s KR2S
> > Message-ID:  ec21245e-867b-4e44-bc50-47ff76390...@gmail.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I have been working on my build and these are my latest pictures of my
> push rod conversion.
> > This setup will cover my ailerons and elevator.
> > Rudder will stay cable style.
> > -- next part --
> >
> > -- next part --
> >
> > -- next part --
> >
> > Adam Tippin
> > A&P KR2S builder
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KR> Spring Fly-in MO9

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Saturday April 14 at MO9
Draft horse demo
Hanger Kafe
Airplanes
Skydiving

3,300' grass runway (with 1,800' hard surface).
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Re: KR> Humidity and sealing wood

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Don't know about an aircraft, but in a home 19% or lower Rh, the wood
will have an infinite life span. Who ever invented the term "dry rot" got
it wrong. It's wet rot.




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On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Sid Wood via KRnet 
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> At 3-4% humidity the lumber will only last 2 to 3 hundred years without
> sealing.  Don't know where your KR will be living; however, the environment
> humidity will most likely go up somewhat and sealing will be needed to
> preserve that lumber from bacterial assault.  Every wood surface in contact
> with air needs to be sealed including bolt holes before the bolts are
> inserted and the inside of box spars before the last web is installed.
> Remember to put a small breathing hole in each otherwise sealed cavity in
> the box spars to allow air pressure changes to equalize with altitude
> changes.  Mixed epoxy thinned with a small amount of Acetone will work
> quite well for sealing.
>
> Still dripping,
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> California, MD, USA
> 
>
> The wood in my fuselage is not sealed yet and the humidity in the shop is
> 3-4%. Do I need to worry or should I run a humidifier to bring the shop up
> to about 10-12% for a few days before sealing it? I was planning on sealing
> the wood with thinned West Tech so I could epoxy supports and brackets
> later. What are your thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodger
>
> --
>
>
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Re: KR> Oils

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I'm burning 91

On Mar 1, 2018 3:53 PM, "svd via KRnet"  wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> Yeah! The oil chat!
>
> From what I’ve read, there are some new full synthetic oils that are
> pretty good in street VWs.
>
> Like this:
> https://type4store.com/products/sealants/joe-gibbs-
> racing-dt50-full-synthetic-15w50-aircooled-engine-oil-12-quarts.html
>
> However, these synthetic oils are incompatible with 100ll avgas due to the
> inability to keep the lead in suspension.
> I wouldn’t go with them unless you were sure that it was compatible with
> 100ll - or if you can use only auto gas.
>
> I have also read some good things about Rotella which also includes a zinc
> additive.
>
> There was a VW service manager from New Zealand that commented on a large
> study of different oils and the result was clear that single weight
> non-synthetic was by far the best.  This was more than a few decades ago so
> I don’t know how things have changed.
>
> Cheers,
> Owen
>
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2018, at 9:00 AM, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote:
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:13:15 -0600
> > From: Ken Hurley mailto:kenhurle...@gmail.com>>
> > To: KRnet mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org>>
> > Subject: Re: KR> Waterboxer Heads
> > Message-ID:
> >vm1sksaojtaj...@mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAOWv+
> j36xmy49whunmhsgeroyqcf7ggh4sbvm1sksaojtaj...@mail.gmail.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> > I'm looking into this oil. http://www.schaefferoil.com/vtwin-oil.html <
> http://www.schaefferoil.com/vtwin-oil.html>
> >
> > Read the specs and technical data.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ken Hurley
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> > 417-343-6888
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KR> MO9

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Saturday April 14, 2018 the Hanger Kafe/Kingsley Airfield will be having an
all day event including draft horses plowing. Several teams will be brought
in. If weather permits, I think this would be a good for for those of you
who want to fly in and show your planes off. They're be a good crowd.



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Re: KR> Waterboxer Heads

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'm looking into this oil. http://www.schaefferoil.com/vtwin-oil.html

Read the specs and technical data.




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On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:46 PM, svd via KRnet  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've been struggling to come to terms with the reliability issues common
> the VW conversions. It seems heat is the leading cause of many of these
> problems.
>
> So..
>
> What happened to the Great Plains Waterboxer?
> http://www.greatplainsas.com/bf2004.html <http://www.greatplainsas.com/
> bf2004.html>
>
> Looks a lot like the Rotax 912!  These certainly make a lot of sense if as
> Bob Hoover states the heads have to pass ~83% of the motor heat (17% for
> the cylinders).
>
> You can find the heads new on eBay for ~$750.
>
> Any experience with waterboxers in aviation out there? Too much weight?
>
> Owen
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KR> Procedure

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

What do you have for a check list for preflight, engine start up, in flight
emergencies, landing, shut down, and parking (did I list everything?)? Are
they all in your head it on paper?
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Re: KR> Member/KR Map

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I've added mine, Clever, MO. Now to get it flying. Temps have been so cold
(how cold is it?) Well,,, the diggers backside is frozen. I'll hanger it a
MO9 this spring.




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On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:15 PM, svd via KRnet 
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> Hi Guys,
>
> The Kitfox folks (and a few other type groups) have a member annotated
> Google Map with really helps connect up for flying or other meet-ups.
>
> Here’s a link to the Kitfox Map:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1W01TejrfdxQ3tM7AilGT2UAAQ5A&usp=sharing
> <https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1W01TejrfdxQ3tM7AilGT2UAAQ5A&;
> hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&view=map&msa=0&ll=-3.4073688164778417,
> 0&spn=59.001293,172.617187&z=2>
>
> I think it could be a valuable addition to our KR community resources to
> make suck a map for KR’s.
>
> I’ve started a KR map - go here:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XLm_M-2W2TuLe5iHcvjjKmMxiH1RTOc6&;
> usp=sharing <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XLm_M-
> 2W2TuLe5iHcvjjKmMxiH1RTOc6&usp=sharing>
>
> Add your location and whatever info you want to the map (generally at
> least contact or KR member, and hopefully something about your project or
> plane.
>
> 1) Navigate the map to your location and zoom in tightly.
>
> 2) Add your marker to the map using the marker icon (looks like upside
> down drop).  Click on the Marker Icon in the top left menu, then click on
> the map where you want the marker.  You can move the maker if its not where
> you want it just by clicking on it and dragging it to where you want.
>
> 3) Add info to the marker.  Add title, then info.  You can add pictures by
> clicking on the camera icon.  Then click “save” button and its added!
>
> 4) If you want your can edit the marker once its saved by clicking the
> pencil icon.  Or add pictures, or even delete it using the trash icon.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
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Re: KR> MO9 lunch?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

If an overnight is warranted, they do have a few beds available. Not enough
for the annual fly-in though.

On Feb 11, 2018 9:12 PM, "Ken Hurley"  wrote:

> March or April?
>
> What weekend, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th,,, (5th March only). I'll check with
> Kiman and see if they have any activity planned.
>
> On Feb 11, 2018 8:27 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>> Ken Hurley wrote:
>>
>> > For those of you who live in the central part of our country, would
>> any
>> > of you like to fly in for lunch? I'm looking at March or April of 2018.
>> > Located West of Miller MO, West of Springfield, MO ENE of Joplin, MO.
>>
>> I'm probably in also, even though it'd be 3 hours each way from here.  I
>> haven't managed to fly nearly as much this winter as I usually do due to
>> weather, but I did get an two hours in last week.
>>
>> Mark Langford
>> m...@n56ml.com
>> http://www.n56ml.com
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Re: KR> MO9 lunch?

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March or April?

What weekend, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th,,, (5th March only). I'll check with
Kiman and see if they have any activity planned.

On Feb 11, 2018 8:27 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
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> Ken Hurley wrote:
>
> > For those of you who live in the central part of our country, would
> any
> > of you like to fly in for lunch? I'm looking at March or April of 2018.
> > Located West of Miller MO, West of Springfield, MO ENE of Joplin, MO.
>
> I'm probably in also, even though it'd be 3 hours each way from here.  I
> haven't managed to fly nearly as much this winter as I usually do due to
> weather, but I did get an two hours in last week.
>
> Mark Langford
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KR> MO9 lunch?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

For those of you who live in the central part of our country, would any
of you like to fly in for lunch? I'm looking at March or April of 2018.
Located West of Miller MO, West of Springfield, MO ENE of Joplin, MO. They
have the Hanger Kafe, 3,300' 18/36 runway (FAA hasn't updated the extension
that I know of). Great food, fun, and maybe a future annual gathering site.

100 LL and Jet A available only. If I have my plane together and hangered
there I'll have 91 Ethanol Free gas for our own use. Week day or weekend,
it's up to you. Let me know and I'll make arrangements.

Here's the FB page:
http://eventful.com/miller_mo/venues/hanger-cafe-/V0-001-008125764-2



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Re: KR> KR2 fixed landing gear

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I've got my airplane on blocks so I can work on the under belly. Finish
tuning the throttle body. Seal the wing tanks. She'll be flying soon.

On Jan 22, 2018 7:25 PM, "Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
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> Ken, you had better get to it if your gonna fly to the Gathering. Just
> curious, how many inches of clearance do you have at level attitude ? I
> only have about 6 inches between prop tip and pavement.
>
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
>
> Cell no.205-966-3854
>
>
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> Subject: KR> KR2 fixed landing gear
>
> Does anyone have a drawing of a fixed landing gear for a KR? I have a
> retract and thinking about changing to fixed landing gear. I'll be using a
> grass field and would like just a little more room for my prop.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
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KR> KR2 fixed landing gear

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Does anyone have a drawing of a fixed landing gear for a KR? I have a
retract and thinking about changing to fixed landing gear. I'll be using a
grass field and would like just a little more room for my prop.



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KR> web site

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Who owns krgathering.com & net? Net is 18 and & com is the past. Confusing
isn't it.



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Re: KR> Gathering

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Can you provide the link please.

On Jan 21, 2018 9:51 PM, "Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
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> I just finished signing up for the Gathering. Can't wait to see all my
> friends again.. We had beautiful weather today so I had to take the KR
> up. I just love this thing, It's an adrenalin rush from wheels up till
> landing. Keep building guys, It's worth it.
>
>
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Re: KR> Happy New Year's

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Where's all of that global warming when you really need it? Happy
New Year Paul!




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On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Ppaulvsk via KRnet 
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> And happy New Year's to everyone else. A bunch of festivities around
> St.Louis has been cancelled due to cold weather.( "0" F.)   Bunch of wimps
> around here.☹
> Paul Visk Belleville Il.618-406-4705
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Re: KR> Fuel Flow Meter

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

😂

On Dec 17, 2017 12:30 PM, "Kayak via KRnet"  wrote:

i think u should put a lid on it ken   ;)

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Ken Hurley via KRnet
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> And a paint stick can paddle someone too. I just wanted to stir things up.

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Re: KR> Fuel Flow Meter

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And a paint stick can paddle someone too. I just wanted to stir things up.

On Dec 17, 2017 10:53 AM, "Flesner via KRnet"  wrote:

>  It worked fine for maybe 20 hours, and it's been crazy ever since. Not
> crazy in a way that makes any sensemaybe 5% of the time I'd say it's
> accurate, but most of the time it wanders quickly between the normal 3.8
> gph and something like 50 gph!
>
>> I'm back to what always works...a paint stirring stick marked in gallons,
>> that I use as a dipstick to know exactly how much fuel I have before
>> takeoff, and exactly home much I land with, and knowing that I normally
>> burn something like 3.5 gph at altitude cruise
>>
>> Mark Langford
>>
> 
> +++
>
> I've pretty much decided not to spend hundreds of  and countless hours
> installing another gadget and go with what has worked for 650 hours, look
> in the tank and clock the flight hours.  I calculated the dollars I would
> spend would get me 3000 miles of flying at $5 per gallon of 100LL and I'll
> have less things to fail / troubleshoot.  A good nap brought things back in
> to perspective. You only have to calibrate the paint stick once and it's
> good for a lifetime. :-)
>
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Re: KR> Gaston's?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEgddEfMT4




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On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Tommy Waymack via KRnet <
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> Check out youtube for the flight into Gastons.
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> > 2,500 ' runway. At least 50' wide. I haven't flown into Gaston's but a KR
> > should handle that okay.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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> >
> > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/3/2017 9:01 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
> > >
> > >> Gaston's 58 NM away.  I intend to check it out in the near future.
> > >> -Jeff Scott
> > >> Cherokee Village, AR
> > >>
> > >> +
> > >
> > > I was in there in the Tripacer but it's been 15 years ago now.  Neat
> > place
> > > to fly in to.  Not for the weak of heart but very easily done.  The
> > > approach was to follow the river on a left base as I recall and then
> > > through the break in the trees on short final.  I recall the strip was
> > > quite smooth except for a couple of long "ripples" at the lift off
> point.
> > > It was no problem for three "heavies" in the Tripacer.
> > >
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Re: KR> Gaston's?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

2,500 ' runway. At least 50' wide. I haven't flown into Gaston's but a KR
should handle that okay.




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On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Flesner via KRnet 
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> On 12/3/2017 9:01 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Gaston's 58 NM away.  I intend to check it out in the near future.
>> -Jeff Scott
>> Cherokee Village, AR
>>
>> +
>
> I was in there in the Tripacer but it's been 15 years ago now.  Neat place
> to fly in to.  Not for the weak of heart but very easily done.  The
> approach was to follow the river on a left base as I recall and then
> through the break in the trees on short final.  I recall the strip was
> quite smooth except for a couple of long "ripples" at the lift off point.
> It was no problem for three "heavies" in the Tripacer.
>
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Re: KR> breakfast flight

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As the crow flies (hey they'll be better at it than I) you're around 155
miles from where I parking my plane (MO9). At 135 and 4 gal per hour
that's worth coming down for breakfast. Now to get the plane up in the air!
Hey I'm working on it. 90% done and 90% to go! 2018!




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>
> Jefferson City was also a pretty good meeting place as well in Mid
> Missouri. Nice Restaurant.
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
>
> --
>
> Since I am about to become a man or leisure, I'll be game for most
> anywhere.  I also have a number of places picked out to meet up with the
> Alabama and Tennessee guys.  A good flying friend (Cirrus SR-20) is also
> retiring to Alabama this spring, so I do plan to get a round a bit.
>
> For those not in the know... if you care...  I am retiring as of Dec 14
> and have already moved to Cherokee Village, AR, with my planes based at
> KCVK.  I'm very centrally located in the country, which is one of the many
> reasons why I moved here.
>
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Re: KR> breakfast flight

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Can we anticipate an annual hosting there?

On Dec 3, 2017 8:46 AM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet"  wrote:

>
> Jefferson City was also a pretty good meeting place as well in Mid
> Missouri. Nice Restaurant.
>
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
>
> --
>
> Since I am about to become a man or leisure, I'll be game for most
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> Alabama and Tennessee guys.  A good flying friend (Cirrus SR-20) is also
> retiring to Alabama this spring, so I do plan to get a round a bit.
>
> For those not in the know... if you care...  I am retiring as of Dec 14
> and have already moved to Cherokee Village, AR, with my planes based at
> KCVK.  I'm very centrally located in the country, which is one of the many
> reasons why I moved here.
>
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KR> glue

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

What is a good glue to use on gluing the type of Styrofoam on a KR2? I only
need a small amount.



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Re: KR> engine rebuild completed (finally)

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Congrats to your success. You know Sept 18 is just around the corner. MVN
is gonna be fun.

On Nov 26, 2017 6:53 PM, "n357cj via KRnet"  wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>Back near the end of May I decided to pull the engine for an overhaul
> for a couple reasons. For more years than I can remember I have had a oil
> leak which I knew was from a crack in the block. While this may sound very
> on safe it never became a structural issue but only caused me a large
> amount of cleaning and adding a quart every10 to 12 hours of operation.
> This past winter it became apparent that the leaking was increasing to the
> point that it became a real irritant. The thing that made the deciding
> factor was during a afternoon flight I noticed a drop in oil pressure while
> nearly a hour from home. I never lost pressure but the lowered pressure was
> a another cause for concern. I always felt that an accident is a build up
> of 3 mistakes and I had 2 already.
>I had a block preped by Roy a few years ago and I had a store pile of
> parts so I figured a several week turn around and be right back at it.
> Well,  that didn't work out so well. Through a number of comedy of errors
> (not really funny) and 4 separate tear downs and test runs and even a
> couple test flights, I finally have everything running great again. The
> first big deal was I knocked the block off the work bench  when it was
> short block assembled. From there i convinced myself that it had distorted
> the block and it was trashed. MArk Lankford came to the rescue by sending
> me his 3100cc block. I built that all the way up and mounted it to the
> plane. I knew that it was very tight build. It proved to be to tight with
> high oil temps and scorching a bearing that was tight. So back off the
> plane and tear down again. I tore the high volume oil pump apart again and
> looked the gears over again. There was no sign of wear at all but using a
> magnifying glass I noticed that there were some circular scores just above
> the drive gear. The drive gear is a pressure fit to the shaft. It appears
> that the gear when up to temps became loose on the shaft and would slip
> some. I replaced the drive gear and hoped I had this resolved.
>Over this period of time I re-evaluated the case that I had dropped
> from the work bench. Other than a dent in one corner of the casting I could
> not find any misalignment or damage at all. I re-installed 2 different
> cranks and cams to torque and found that the cranks run perfectly true and
> free. So I took everything back off Mark's case and started to rebuild mine
> again. At least Mark's is all cleaned, painted and ready for him to start
> his rebuild.
>I built this one up again and mounted it to the plane again. This time
> it seemed to go together OK. A couple more weeks  altogether and mounted it
> back up to the plane again. It started up OK and timing was checked.
> Something bothering me...It didn't sound quit the same. I did a test flight
> of about 20 minutes around the pattern and it still bothered me. I had one
> head temp that was a bit high. But worse yet I had oil all over things
> again... That just isn't going to due again. I cleaned the engine all up
> again and put the dye in the oil that ultraviolet light shows. I ran the
> engine on the ground up to temps for about 15 or 20 minutes.
>My son and I pulled the engine again, took it home back on the bench
> and search out the oil leaks with a black light in the dark. To my surprise
> none of the leaking was coming from where I thought it was. I only had one
> O ring on one push rod tube that was leaking a bit. All the rest was coming
> from the edges of the top cover. Well at least it was an easy fix for that
> part. The noise that was troubling me was the next thing. I just had an
> uneasy feeling about the valve adjustments. When I pulled the cover on the
> right side I found the middle rockers loose on the push rods. I had miss
> adjusted a least one set somehow (inept or incompetent come to mind) I did
> not even bother checking any others. I pulled both heads off, push rod
> tubes pulled out the lifters. I took each lifter apart in order and drained
> them and replaced them in order. Reassembled the right and then the left
> sides with all new O rings again. I carefully adjusted the lifters in order
> and repeated to verify.
>The oil with the dye was left in the oil pan just in case I discovered
> leaking again when it was back on the plane. The engine went back on again
> yesterday. Everything went well which made the process feel better. Nothing
> seemed to be nagging me this time. I finaled everything out this morning
> and with my son at the throttle we checked the timing again. The engine
> fired right up with just a couple cranks and ran very smooth. Nothing
> bothering me this time... sounds great and seemed like it had great power.
> After a few minutes of running and warmed up there was no obvious oil leaks
> either.
>I got every

Re: KR> prop combinations for KRs

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Alaina has made both props for the corvair engine. Around $550. Phone
number to visit with her is : 573-364-6311.

On Nov 24, 2017 1:44 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Ken Hurley wrote:
>
> > Not to throw you a big curve ball here, have you considered Culver Prop?
>
> Sensenich props are expensive, but they have proven to be one of the best
> performing props for KRs with a Corvair.  They are CNC'd and very high
> quality, and very repeatable, which is not something you can get with
> handmade props.  If somebody has a Culver prop that works on a Corvair
> though, you could always borrow one and try it, and borrow a Sensenich to
> see which one works best.
>
> One big advantage to buying a prop that is known to be almost perfect is
> that you're not going to have to have an "outlyer" repitched or replaced to
> make it a better fit.  Trial and error can get expensive in a hurry when it
> comes to props that cost $400-$1000 each.
>
> Mark Langford
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Re: KR> prop combinations for KRs

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Not to throw you a big curve ball here, have you considered Culver Prop?
Alaina learned from her Grandpa and she does excellent work. She's made me
a prep for my friends ultralight. If you want more info Google Culver Props
it I can get you their info. They're at Oshkosh every year.

On Nov 24, 2017 5:39 AM, "Rllanning via KRnet"  wrote:

> Ok Mark thanks that helps a lot the number would be nice to if its not to
> much trouble.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 10:00 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Rick Lanning wrote:
> >
> > >> I want to order a Sensenich prop could you give me some input as to
> what diameter and pitch you think would work well on my plane.  It is 2700
> cc and will weigh over 700 lbs thank you.<<
> >
> > Assuming it's a Corvair then a 54x54 (high rpm climb prop) or 54x56
> (lower rpm cruise) will work.  There's a special part number for it, which
> I could come up with this weekend, but they call it a "Sonex prop".  If
> your engine is something else, see
> > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html for prop combinations with various
> engines that others have experience with.
> >
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Re: KR> Get it done!

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

My current project is getting closer to completion. Landing gear (retrack)
change out finished. Return fuel line will be done today (suggested by
Rotec when using 91). Replacing strobe light next week. Adding second set
of seat belts (that's another interesting story). Getting idle adjustment
finished. I've never flown a tail dragger, getting experience in a Cessna
140. Ground taxi in Dec. 18 flying!

On Nov 17, 2017 8:40 AM, "Dene Collett via KRnet" 
wrote:

> In my own defence too, I have built 19 whisper motor gliders and one
> whisper X350 in the last 11 years for other people while working on mine
> only now and then when I had the opportunity.
> You don't get much opportunity when you are working on others planes 17
> hours a day!
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Craig Williams via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Guilty...Now that I am all moved and almost retired and quickly
> > approaching 60 I feel the need to get off my ars and finish this thing.
> In
> > my defense I did buy the Smith to break in my engine and experiment with
> > systems for the KR.  That has been very helpful and will speed my
> building
> > a bit.  The last thing I want to play with is a dry N2O system for
> takeoff
> > injected at the airbox and set with the AFR gauge.  In theory it should
> be
> > an easy 10-20 Hp boost for 60 seconds.  We will see.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On November 17, 2017 at 8:35 AM Mark Langford via KRnet <
> > krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > KRnetHeads,
> > >
> > > The other day I said "You need to finish that plane before you get too
> > > old to fly it".  This observation comes from watching so many KR
> > > builders spend incredible amounts of time and effort to create a
> > > masterpiece airplane, that often times is sold or parted out before the
> > > builder ever gets to fly it, usually due to the loss of medical, AIDS
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Re: KR> More follow-up

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I was talking to Marty Roberts a year or so ago about what types of speed
can the KR2 (that was what Marty flew) could handle. I was looking back
then about a 120 hp engine that could get me up to the 200 mph range. He
said he had his plane over 230 mph more than once and no problems. He also
said his plane (and other KR2's) could handle 4-5 G's.




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krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Samuel Ajayi wrote:
>
> > ... how much speed can the KR fuselage withstand in a dive?
>
> I've had N56ML up to 245 mph TAS in a shallow dive, with no problems
> observed. Troy Petteway has done at least 235 in his stock built KR2,
> and I believe Richard Shirley has also done 235 in his not-so-stock KR1.
> My elevator is properly balanced, as well as the ailerons, neither per
> plans (see website in signature for more on that).
>
> And yes, the main spar is overbuilt, as was proven at an MVN Gathering
> test several years ago.  You are welcome to design and build your own
> main spar from CF, but you will add a lot more to your construction time
> for that, and your butterflies will be much larger when you go full
> throttle for your first flight.  But that's the way the envelope is
> pushed out for the rest of us...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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Re: KR> KR w/ O-235

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Isn't that kind of a "Korny" answer? I've hauled and helped haul several
KR's. I couldn't have accomplished it with fixed wings. Your grounded where
you build it. Now if you live or fly out of that airport that would help.

Go to FB Rand Roberson and I'll post a picture.

On Nov 12, 2017 9:22 PM, "Tony King via KRnet"  wrote:

> As far as I can see the issues with a one piece wing are all about
> logistics.  During construction, instead of the fuselage being the longest
> item it'll be the wing, with implications for the space needed to complete
> the build.  If you're not building at an airport (specifically the airport
> from which you'll conduct the first flight) the challenges of getting it to
> the airport are obvious.  But the biggest one for me is the challenge of
> recovery if you have to put it down in a cornfield somewhere.  If that
> happens you'll have the added headaches of time pressure and perhaps being
> a long way from home with little local support - bad enough if the aircraft
> can be made to fit in the back of a Uhaul (as most KRs can) by simply
> removing the outer wing panels, but a nightmare if you have to somehow lift
> the fuselage off the wing and then wrangle the bits onto a trailer in who
> knows what sort of conditions.  To my mind these issues completely nullify
> any advantage a one piece wing might offer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
> On 13 November 2017 at 12:45, Samuel Ajayi via KRnet  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Who is the gentleman with a KR that has a Lycoming O-235 engine. Curious
> > about performance and drawback with this installation. Also, does anyone
> > have sage advice on the single wing design? I understand the issue of
> > transportation but curious about other possible drawbacks.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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KR> Marty Roberts

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http://www.tulsaworld.com/obituaries/localobituaries/martin-lee-marty-roberts/article_c8bb63ba-8aad-581e-9295-5cf38a448cba.html




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KR> Fly Over

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For those of you whom are flying down to the funeral what about a fly
over at the cemetery?



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KR> Marty Roberts Funeral

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If anyone is going to fly in for the funeral I can pick you up at
*Ketchum, OK - South Grand Lake Regional Airport (1K8). **2:00 pm*

I can meet you at 1:00. They have 100LL and 91. Please let me know asap.



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Re: KR> Marty

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Funeral Services Saturday Nov 11, 2017 First Baptist Church, Langley, OK.
Because of limit on email google the church for address. Or FB me as a
friend and it'll be on my post.




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On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Mike Arnold via KRnet 
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> I had the privilege of building an 1835 engine at Mary's shop a couple
> years ago with Marty at my side most of the time. To say it was an honor
> would not do it justice. His passing was a loss. Marty was a treasure. Ken
> Hurley has that engine now.
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KR> Marty Roberts

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The last time I saw Marty was at Mt. Vernon, IL. I just learned that he has
passed away. As soon as I hear about the funeral arrangements I'll let you
know. Prayers for Ellen and family. R.I.P. Marty and thanks for rebuilding
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Re: KR> Ambitious builder

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Congrats on your progress. I'll be flying my KR2 next year too.

On Oct 30, 2017 5:47 PM, "brendan palmer via KRnet" 
wrote:

> So for someone of a younger generation than the average on this list (born
> 1990) I still really dislike actually communicating via technology... After
> reading the archives for a while I have actually decided to create my first
> post.
>
> So here it is!
> My wife and I have been building a kr2 for a little over a year and a half
> now. We purchased the plane in a partially finished state from a fellow
> Ohioan. When we purchased it April 16 it was in the "boat stage."
>
> To date, we now have both outboard wings fully covered and the top of the
> stub wings covered with the new airfoil shape. We have two aluminum fuel
> tanks with a capacity of ~22 gallons. The controls are similar to Mark's
> designs with outboard ailerons and flaps. Controls are hooked up and
> functioning including the brakes.
>
> We are currently working on the firewall forward. I am welding up the
> engine mount for a 2700 corvair, and my wife is running the lines for the
> fuel system.
>
> We still have everything firewall forward as well as above the wood frame.
>
> If we can keep up the current pace, we hope that we will be able to fly to
> the KR gathering next year.
>
> I have a bunch of pictures, but have not made the effort to post them
> anywhere yet!
> Hope you enjoyed this update!
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Re: KR> What the KR2 is and isn’t Re: First post - Floridian newbie potential builder - KR2

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Maybe a Whisper X350!

On Oct 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Kayak via KRnet"  wrote:

> I second (or third) the "consider a larger plane" advice. the KR2,
> even widened and lengthened would not meet this need. not even close.
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Dj Merrill via KRnet
>  wrote:
> > On 10/21/2017 11:39 AM, Orson wrote:
> >>
> >>  Mission and particulars:
> >> We’re stationed in WPB, Florida. I’m 5’10” at 220lbs, wife is 5’7” at
> 130
> >> lbs. We would like: a cross country plane for 3 to 5 hour legs to the
> north
> >> east coast and as far west as NM; fast climb rate and cruise speed;
> >> relatively high altitude operation; IFR; BRS; retractable, tail dragger
> or
> >> fixed tri gear is fine; able to utilize a certified fuel injection
> engine;
> >> decent glide ratio; hard to spin and correctable if happens, gentle
> positive
> >> dynamic stability and a winning lottery ticket, please.
> >
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KR> Drawing for a fixed tail dragger KR2

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Where can I find a drawing of a fixed landing gear. I'm looking at changing
from retrack to fixed.



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Re: KR> Retracts

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

A diagram or drawing. I'm thinking of changing to a fixed but for right now
I'm sticking with retrack.

On Oct 6, 2017 7:01 AM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
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> Ken Hurley wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a schematic of a retract landing gear for a KR2?
>
> It would be helpful if you'd give a few more details of exactly what you
> need regarding retractable landing gear.  "Schematic" is a term that
> most folks associate with electrical diagrams, so are you looking for
> drawings, details, photos...what exactly?  Main gear or nose gear?
>
> By the way, there's a reason retractable gear is relative rare on KRs
> these days.  After a hard landing has poked a hole in the top of the
> wing, or the retracts have folded up a time or two and killed the prop,
> crank, cowling, and carb, most people updgrade to fixed gear.  Fix gear
> weighs less, and when properly faired with wheel pants, are faster, not
> to mention increased ground clearance.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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KR> Retrack

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Does anyone have a schematic of a retrack landing gear for a KR2?
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Re: KR> Getting Home

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I have some cousin's in Lakin. If you need anything call me. 417-343-6888.

On Sep 25, 2017 12:35 PM, "Kim Neibauer via KRnet" 
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> HI All  Rodger and I had a great time!  Glad everyone else made it home.
> We are sitting in Lakin Kansas 36K for  now. Might make it home Wednesday
> if the clouds lift and the floods stop. Bailed out the planes twice so far,
> need to put in drain holes! Let you all know when we make it.   Kim Neibauer
>
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KR> MO9 runway length

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Re: KR> 2020?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

File too big. Won't post picture. I'll post on FB!

On Sep 25, 2017 8:32 AM, "Ken Hurley"  wrote:

> The rubber was extended and opened in April of this year. See attachment.
>
> On Sep 25, 2017 6:24 AM, "Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>> airnav says 2640 ft. ???
>>
>>
>> Mike Sylvester
>> kr2s builder
>> Birmingham,AL.
>>
>> Cell no.205-966-3854
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: KRnet  on behalf of Ken Hurley via
>> KRnet 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:27 PM
>> To: KRnet
>> Cc: Ken Hurley
>> Subject: KR> 2020?
>>
>> MO9, Miller, MO 2020.
>>
>> 3,300 ft grass strip. Hanger Kafe, meeting room available. Camping yes, no
>> hotel/motel. Mt. Vernon, MO nearest hotel/motel. I would arrange for
>> shuttle bus to transport to and from. Internet available.
>>
>> Kiman Kingsley, owner, has given me the green light to host KR Gathering.
>> The reason for 2020 is I might need the time to pull off a great meeting.
>> Also maybe a different local for 2019.
>>
>> Kingsley Bros. Farm, 3,000 acres (all organic). Plane Cents Crop Dusting,
>> Pawnee's, Ag Cat, and Thrush on site. If crop dusting and you would like,
>> a
>> ride in the back seat of a Thrush Crop Duster. 850 HP GE Turbo Prop! This
>> is where I'll hanger my KR2!
>>
>> https://www.airnav.com/airport/MO9
>> AirNav: MO9 - Kingsley Airfield<https://www.airnav.com/airport/MO9>
>> www.airnav.com
>> Complete aeronautical information about Kingsley Airfield (Miller, MO,
>> USA), including location, runways, taxiways, navaids, radio frequencies,
>> FBO information, fuel ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> T
>>
>> hanks
>>
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Re: KR> 2020?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Auto correct runway! That is unless you bounce upon landing.

On Sep 25, 2017 8:32 AM, "Ken Hurley"  wrote:

> The rubber was extended and opened in April of this year. See attachment.
>
> On Sep 25, 2017 6:24 AM, "Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>> airnav says 2640 ft. ???
>>
>>
>> Mike Sylvester
>> kr2s builder
>> Birmingham,AL.
>>
>> Cell no.205-966-3854
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: KRnet  on behalf of Ken Hurley via
>> KRnet 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:27 PM
>> To: KRnet
>> Cc: Ken Hurley
>> Subject: KR> 2020?
>>
>> MO9, Miller, MO 2020.
>>
>> 3,300 ft grass strip. Hanger Kafe, meeting room available. Camping yes, no
>> hotel/motel. Mt. Vernon, MO nearest hotel/motel. I would arrange for
>> shuttle bus to transport to and from. Internet available.
>>
>> Kiman Kingsley, owner, has given me the green light to host KR Gathering.
>> The reason for 2020 is I might need the time to pull off a great meeting.
>> Also maybe a different local for 2019.
>>
>> Kingsley Bros. Farm, 3,000 acres (all organic). Plane Cents Crop Dusting,
>> Pawnee's, Ag Cat, and Thrush on site. If crop dusting and you would like,
>> a
>> ride in the back seat of a Thrush Crop Duster. 850 HP GE Turbo Prop! This
>> is where I'll hanger my KR2!
>>
>> https://www.airnav.com/airport/MO9
>> AirNav: MO9 - Kingsley Airfield<https://www.airnav.com/airport/MO9>
>> www.airnav.com
>> Complete aeronautical information about Kingsley Airfield (Miller, MO,
>> USA), including location, runways, taxiways, navaids, radio frequencies,
>> FBO information, fuel ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> T
>>
>> hanks
>>
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KR> 2020?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

MO9, Miller, MO 2020.

3,300 ft grass strip. Hanger Kafe, meeting room available. Camping yes, no
hotel/motel. Mt. Vernon, MO nearest hotel/motel. I would arrange for
shuttle bus to transport to and from. Internet available.

Kiman Kingsley, owner, has given me the green light to host KR Gathering.
The reason for 2020 is I might need the time to pull off a great meeting.
Also maybe a different local for 2019.

Kingsley Bros. Farm, 3,000 acres (all organic). Plane Cents Crop Dusting,
Pawnee's, Ag Cat, and Thrush on site. If crop dusting and you would like, a
ride in the back seat of a Thrush Crop Duster. 850 HP GE Turbo Prop! This
is where I'll hanger my KR2!

https://www.airnav.com/airport/MO9



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Re: KR> I'm home

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'll be flying my KR2 next year!

On Sep 24, 2017 11:15 AM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
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>
>
> I'm home from the Gathering.  Good time had and lots of familiar faces.
>  Thanks Rob and EAA91 for hosting.
>
> One stop on the way home for auto fuel at $2.56 per gallon.  That beats
> the $5.34 100LL at my home base.
>
> See you all at Mt.Vernon next year
>
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Re: KR> 2017 Gathering Update

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'll be driving up from the Springfield, MO area (plane and I aren't ready
to fly) so I can play shuttle also.

I learned to fly at Dodge City, KS (DDC) back in the 70's. At that time DDC
had the highest wind speed average of any municipal airport in the USA,
average wind speed 15.2 mph. When you lived in that environment all of your
life you just do it! Oh and the "rule" was no solo flying if wind speed was
above 30 mph.

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On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:25 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet 
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> If anyone tries to land and the winds are too strong for them.  I would
> have no problem picking you up at KRCM.  Then later in the day or evening I
> can take you back after the winds have died down.  I should be getting
> there around 9:00
> Paul Visk  Belleville Il  618-406-4705
>
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>
> If you are flying in and need an alternate due to the high south winds, I
> recommend Warrensburg MO (KRCM) if you are coming in from the east. Runway
> 1/19
>
>
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Re: KR> Toe in or Toe out?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Cessna 140 calls for toe-out.

On Sep 18, 2017 7:18 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
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>
>
>> where the wheel castings attach to the landing bar I can be Toe-in,
>> Neutral, or Toe-out. I've read some articles that promote Toe-out, but
>> they
>> don't say how many degrees.
>> Any suggestions, experience, or thoughts would be much appreciated.
>> Ken Hurley
>>
> +
>
> I've never really bought the theory for toe-in or toe-out and went with
> as zero-zero as I could get and zero camber when loaded.  Glad I did.  650
> hours and my KR handles great on the ground.  Tire wear is non existent.  I
> can't imagine that any aircraft using toe-in or toe-out could handle any
> better than my KR.
>
> Just wondering, do aircraft like Mustangs, Corsairs, DC3, B17, use toe-in,
> toe-out, or neutral?
>
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KR> Toe in or Toe out?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'm replacing a landing bar on my just acquired KR1 with retractable
landing gear. The inside 12 holes need to be like the old bar. However
where the wheel castings attach to the landing bar I can be Toe-in,
Neutral, or Toe-out. I've read some articles that promote Toe-out, but they
don't say how many degrees.

Any suggestions, experience, or thoughts would be much appreciated.

With my head hanging down (but I'll still see the road) I'll be driving to
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Re: KR> ready, set, to go on Thursday

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

YIPEE!

On Sep 17, 2017 3:16 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
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>
>
> I spent an hour or two this afternoon getting the KR ready for Thursdays
> flight to KLXT.  Cleaned off the bugs, clean the windshield, 24 gallon of
> fuel, 5 qts oil, engine washed, GPS updated and programmed the flight plan,
> tossed in a pair of pliers for Mark Langford, extra oil (hopefully not
> needed), couple of extra rags, and I think I'm all set for a good time.
> See you all on Thursday..
>
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KR> Hampton Inn

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

What are some of the rates for 1 room 2 Queens?



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Re: KR> Gathering location?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

This topic of location will be a great discussion next month. Last year was
my first year attending. I won't for to Lee Summit this year, but will fly
in 18.

On Aug 26, 2017 8:26 AM, "Joel LaRock via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Just a thought, has anybody thought about the northeast like PA,BY areas.
> Again just a thought
>
> On Aug 26, 2017 09:16, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Last night, in that short time between my head hitting the pillow and
> falling asleep, I was thinking about a KR Gathering at Oshkosh.  I've
> attended 25 of the last 26 Gatherings and I've had my KR to Oshkosh 4 times
> in the last 5 or 6 years.  If these events are combined into one I'll end
> up missing the happenings of one or the other.  I attend each for different
> reasons.  If I attend to be with the KR crowd I'll miss the war birds, the
> light stuff at the south end, the classics, etc. and if I work that in I'd
> have no time for the KR crowd. I could not do both at the same time in a
> limited number of days.  I don't think most of us attend Oshkosh for the
> full week.  3 or 4 days is my usual stay at either event and each is packed
> full of their own unique opportunities.  Just one more opinion
>
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Re: KR> KR Gathering at OSH?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I'd be open for that.

On Aug 24, 2017 8:51 PM, "Mark Wegmet via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Maybe I'm not too bright, but isn't Whitman (sp) field (OSH) open all year
> round? If EAA is open to the idea, why not see if they will "host" a KR
> gathering at some other time than the circus (AirVenture). There is plenty
> of real estate/camping and amenities, 'town' is not far away and the museum
> is awesome. JMHO.
>
> Mark W.
> N952MW (res)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hurley
> via KRnet
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:12 PM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Ken Hurley
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering at OSH?
>
> Last year was my first year to attend. I thought the get-together was
> excellent. This year's event hasn't happened but it sounds like Rob is
> doing
> a great job. I won't for to this year's event but will in 18'. I live in SW
> Missouri and I thought about hosting in 19. However maybe someone would
> like
> to host it.
>
> I'll be posting some pics of my new to me KR2 soon.
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 7:54 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Some other groups host a fly-in near Oshkosh as an alternative to
> > Oshkosh, but also close enough that the members can hop over to
> > Oshkosh for a day or two if they choose.  For example, the SuperCub
> > crowd does a great Fly In over an New Holstein, WI.  They hold a STOL
> > contest, Fly Young Eagles, do several Fly Outs, and hold a pig roast.
> > It goes on all week.  That way those like me that would just as soon
> > avoid the mass of humanity can, and those that want to go join the
> > masses can do so.  But it's also important to keep in mind that these
> > guys have numerous fly-ins all over the country every year, so they get
> together as a group a lot.
> >
> > From my personal perspective, if the KR Gathering moved to Oshkosh, I
> > would simply be done with the gatherings.  You would find me over at
> > New Holstein with the SuperCub bunch.  I suspect I am far from the
> > only one that would skip OSH. I simply do not like being part of the
> > masses of humanity and I could care less about watching military and
> > aerobatic air shows.  If I was going to fly into OSH, I would likely
> > fly the Supercub so I can haul all my camping gear.  The KR Gathering
> > is all about KRs.  In my opinion, it would be disastrous to dilute the
> > KR folks into the masses at Oshkosh.
> >
> > As for moving the Gathering all over the country, you are a bit late
> > to that discussion.  We moved it to Chino,CA in 2014, then to
> > McMinnville, OR in 2015.  That pretty much excluded the east coast
> > folks and many of the midwesterners for 2 years.  There were only a
> > couple of us that flew to both.  In the time I have been attending the
> > Gatherings, it has been hosted in AR, CA, OK, IL, KY, OR, and this
> > year will be in MO.  I would call that spreading it around.  During
> > that time, we found that there is no place that offers us the quality
> > of venue at a central location like what Larry Flesner found for us by
> > hosting in Mt Vernon, IL.  It is simply a perfect venue with a large
> > open airport, multiple runways, lots of ramp space, available hangar
> > space, available meeting rooms, restaurant on the field to cater,
> > camping and showers on the airport, etc, etc, etc.  It simply doesn't
> > get any better than that, and they make it clear that whether Larry
> > hosts or not, Mt Vernon always wants us back.  That's the reason why
> > we have agreed to the central location with a fabulous venue and
> > incredible hospitality on an every other year basis.  It wasn't an
> accident.  We love that place just like the SuperCub guys love New
> Holstein.
> >
> > If your interest is in OSH, I would suggest you host a get together on
> > Monday of the convention as there are a few KRs there and some of the
> > KR guys, namely Mark with Larry's help, host the KR forum.  You will
> > find some of the KR faithful at the forum.
> >
> > -Jeff Scott
> > Los Alamos, NM
> >
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Re: KR> KR Gathering at OSH?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Last year was my first year to attend. I thought the get-together was
excellent. This year's event hasn't happened but it sounds like Rob is
doing a great job. I won't for to this year's event but will in 18'. I live
in SW Missouri and I thought about hosting in 19. However maybe someone
would like to host it.

I'll be posting some pics of my new to me KR2 soon.

On Aug 24, 2017 7:54 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> Some other groups host a fly-in near Oshkosh as an alternative to Oshkosh,
> but also close enough that the members can hop over to Oshkosh for a day or
> two if they choose.  For example, the SuperCub crowd does a great Fly In
> over an New Holstein, WI.  They hold a STOL contest, Fly Young Eagles, do
> several Fly Outs, and hold a pig roast.  It goes on all week.  That way
> those like me that would just as soon avoid the mass of humanity can, and
> those that want to go join the masses can do so.  But it's also important
> to keep in mind that these guys have numerous fly-ins all over the country
> every year, so they get together as a group a lot.
>
> From my personal perspective, if the KR Gathering moved to Oshkosh, I
> would simply be done with the gatherings.  You would find me over at New
> Holstein with the SuperCub bunch.  I suspect I am far from the only one
> that would skip OSH. I simply do not like being part of the masses of
> humanity and I could care less about watching military and aerobatic air
> shows.  If I was going to fly into OSH, I would likely fly the Supercub so
> I can haul all my camping gear.  The KR Gathering is all about KRs.  In my
> opinion, it would be disastrous to dilute the KR folks into the masses at
> Oshkosh.
>
> As for moving the Gathering all over the country, you are a bit late to
> that discussion.  We moved it to Chino,CA in 2014, then to McMinnville, OR
> in 2015.  That pretty much excluded the east coast folks and many of the
> midwesterners for 2 years.  There were only a couple of us that flew to
> both.  In the time I have been attending the Gatherings, it has been hosted
> in AR, CA, OK, IL, KY, OR, and this year will be in MO.  I would call that
> spreading it around.  During that time, we found that there is no place
> that offers us the quality of venue at a central location like what Larry
> Flesner found for us by hosting in Mt Vernon, IL.  It is simply a perfect
> venue with a large open airport, multiple runways, lots of ramp space,
> available hangar space, available meeting rooms, restaurant on the field to
> cater, camping and showers on the airport, etc, etc, etc.  It simply
> doesn't get any better than that, and they make it clear that whether Larry
> hosts or not, Mt Vernon always wants us back.  That's the reason why we
> have agreed to the central location with a fabulous venue and incredible
> hospitality on an every other year basis.  It wasn't an accident.  We love
> that place just like the SuperCub guys love New Holstein.
>
> If your interest is in OSH, I would suggest you host a get together on
> Monday of the convention as there are a few KRs there and some of the KR
> guys, namely Mark with Larry's help, host the KR forum.  You will find some
> of the KR faithful at the forum.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
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KR> 2018?

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

PM - Awards Banquet, meal and presentation of awards,* vote on next years
location.*

I thought that in 2016 that we agreed that every other year (even years) we
would have our gathering at Mt. Vernon, IL. If that is correct can we
discuss 2019 at this years meeting?



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Re: KR> Gathering hotel

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Rob, I'll order the rain, you supply the soap. BYOT (Bring Your Own
Towels)!




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On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet  wrote:

> Yes, we will be able to camp on the northwest corner of the airport. But
> no showers will be available. Sorry about that.
>
> Rob
>
>
> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Paul Visk via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of lodging at the Gathering.  Rob, I noticed on the website
> that camping information is still pending. Is there any updates on that.
> This year I might be able to take my 18-wheeler there  and sleep in my
> tractor being that we have a terminal in Kansas City.  If not I sleep ib my
> Grand Cherokee.
> >
> > Paul Visk Belleville Il.
> > 618-406-4705
> >
> >
> >
> >>   Just up the road a mile or two from the airport,  is a Comfort Inn
> >> & Suites for $68 per night + taxes, I'm sure, but a big difference
> >> for three nights.
> >
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Re: KR> Crash

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Prayers from here Joe.

On Jul 5, 2017 10:32 PM, "Joe Nunley via KRnet" 
wrote:

> My engine sputtered on take off.  I didn't want to land in the trees so I
> turned back.  I am in the hospital with a broken pelvis and broken ribs,
> but I am ok. Lots of miracles. My aircraft is shattered. More input later.
>
> Joe Nunley
> Baker Florida
>
> On Jul 5, 2017 8:55 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just two more weeks till Oshkosh!!!  Who plans to attend?  KR forum on
> Monday, right Mark?
>
>
>
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