KR> AS number for Mouldless Composite Sandwich 3rd ed

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Visk
Gary, Your way of building the boat sounded pretty good. One thing that I would 
do different is. ?I would not glue the top down. You want to be able to 
disassemble it when you're done. Or cut it down smaller when your needs change.?

Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
618-406-4705
Watch ""Fly Now" ?The trailer
https://youtu.be/A_ZqJYNU54s

 Original message From: Lawrence Bell via KRnet 
 Date:06/08/2015  2:14 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  Cc: Lawrence Bell 
 Subject: Re: KR> AS number for Mouldless 
Composite Sandwich 3rd ed 
Gary,
 Aircraft Spruce doesn't give a number, but I found it under "composite
construction". It is Burt Rutan's basic fiberglass sandwich construction
instructions and was my manual on that subject together with the build
manual. Basically, I built a frame of 2x4s with 1/2" plywood. I did it by
using 8' length 2x4s and cut a 4x8 1/2" piece of plywood in half for top
and bottom. I put a cross member 2x4 every 2 ft and glued and screwed the
whole thing together. I sanded one side and covered is with 2' brown
wrapping paper on which I drew the side frame. The platform allows you to
screw on blocks to hold the frame while gluing. Use wax paper under the
glue joints to be able to get the side frame off the platform. I divided
the sides in half and made two front halves and then two back. I tapered
the longerons at the joint end per FAR 43.13 to splice the front and back
together. To join the halves I drew the center section on the paper to keep
everything straight. I glued doublers top and bottom for the splice and
extended the doubler on the top called out by the drawing past the joint.
This way I didn't have to have a 12' or 14' table and if you order the cap
strip it can be shipped a lot easier and is cheaper and I think the joints
give a little more strength for when you bend the whole thing for the boat.
I have my platform hung on the side of my fence and put it on saw horses
when I need a big work bench in the back yard.The other option is to make a
platform 12' or 14' and order that length cap strips. To build the boat I
screwed a 4x8' piece of plywood on top of the platform and then moved the
whole thing back and forth as I built it.
 That is what worked for me, hope it helps you, Larry Bell

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Gary Ainsworth via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> What is the Aircraft Spruce number for this book ? (or a dimensioned
> drawing of the work platform)
> Thanks
> Gary - Canada  garyains "at" kwic.com
>
> -Original Message- From: Lawrence Bell via KRnet
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:44 PM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Lawrence Bell
> Subject: Re: KR> Min Size of Build Space question
>
> Chris,
> I had the same problem. A 8x20 ft trailer is more than I had. First
> there is a manual titled "Moldless Composite Sandwich 3rd Edition" sold by
> Aircraft Spruce. In there they have you build a " work platform" instead
> of a
> large bench. change options ..
>
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KR> AS number for Mouldless Composite Sandwich 3rd ed

2015-06-08 Thread Lawrence Bell
Gary,
 Aircraft Spruce doesn't give a number, but I found it under "composite
construction". It is Burt Rutan's basic fiberglass sandwich construction
instructions and was my manual on that subject together with the build
manual. Basically, I built a frame of 2x4s with 1/2" plywood. I did it by
using 8' length 2x4s and cut a 4x8 1/2" piece of plywood in half for top
and bottom. I put a cross member 2x4 every 2 ft and glued and screwed the
whole thing together. I sanded one side and covered is with 2' brown
wrapping paper on which I drew the side frame. The platform allows you to
screw on blocks to hold the frame while gluing. Use wax paper under the
glue joints to be able to get the side frame off the platform. I divided
the sides in half and made two front halves and then two back. I tapered
the longerons at the joint end per FAR 43.13 to splice the front and back
together. To join the halves I drew the center section on the paper to keep
everything straight. I glued doublers top and bottom for the splice and
extended the doubler on the top called out by the drawing past the joint.
This way I didn't have to have a 12' or 14' table and if you order the cap
strip it can be shipped a lot easier and is cheaper and I think the joints
give a little more strength for when you bend the whole thing for the boat.
I have my platform hung on the side of my fence and put it on saw horses
when I need a big work bench in the back yard.The other option is to make a
platform 12' or 14' and order that length cap strips. To build the boat I
screwed a 4x8' piece of plywood on top of the platform and then moved the
whole thing back and forth as I built it.
 That is what worked for me, hope it helps you, Larry Bell

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Gary Ainsworth via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> What is the Aircraft Spruce number for this book ? (or a dimensioned
> drawing of the work platform)
> Thanks
> Gary - Canada  garyains "at" kwic.com
>
> -Original Message- From: Lawrence Bell via KRnet
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:44 PM
> To: KRnet
> Cc: Lawrence Bell
> Subject: Re: KR> Min Size of Build Space question
>
> Chris,
> I had the same problem. A 8x20 ft trailer is more than I had. First
> there is a manual titled "Moldless Composite Sandwich 3rd Edition" sold by
> Aircraft Spruce. In there they have you build a " work platform" instead
> of a
> large bench. change options ..
>
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KR> AS number for Mouldless Composite Sandwich 3rd ed

2015-06-08 Thread Gary Ainsworth
What is the Aircraft Spruce number for this book ? (or a dimensioned drawing 
of the work platform)
Thanks
Gary - Canada  garyains "at" kwic.com

-Original Message- 
From: Lawrence Bell via KRnet
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:44 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Lawrence Bell
Subject: Re: KR> Min Size of Build Space question

Chris,
 I had the same problem. A 8x20 ft trailer is more than I had. First
there is a manual titled "Moldless Composite Sandwich 3rd Edition" sold by
Aircraft Spruce. In there they have you build a " work platform" instead of 
a
large bench. change options ..