KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread Darren Crompton
Does anyone know which weight and weave carbon fibre cloth is considered
best for the KR airfoil surfaces?

Cheers
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My web site: www.kr-2s.com


KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP
Hi Darren - Let us know how it works - I am interested in doing the same 
to save a little weight and increase strength.

-dave

Darren Crompton wrote:

>Does anyone know which weight and weave carbon fibre cloth is considered
>best for the KR airfoil surfaces?
>
>Cheers
>  
>



KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 07:42 AM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Darren - Let us know how it works - I am interested in doing the same
>to save a little weight and increase strength.
>
>-dave
++=

The KR has proven over time to be quite strong enough using
the standard KR cloth.  With only one layer of glass from the
forward spar to the trail edge, and assuming probably the same
amount of resin, I don't see where the extra cost of carbon fiber
could be justified financially for the weight savings of the cloth
alone which, in all probability, will be about the same.  The weight
savings generally comes in using less layers of cloth, which in
this case. you can't do.

The weakest part of the wing is at the attach fittings.  Using carbon
fiber won't change that.  The chain is only as strong as it's weakest
link and you're not improving the weak link.  Carbon fiber is probably
4 times more expensive.  The difference would probably buy a nice
hand held radio.  :-)

Just a thought from the far side...

Larry Flesner





KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread da...@alltel.net
Larry is absolutely correct, except that I think it is now 5 times more 
expensive, for no gain.

From: Larry&Sallie Flesner 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2007/05/31 Thu PM 12:27:38 CDT
To: KRnet 
Subject: Re: KR> Carbon fibre cloth

At 07:42 AM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Darren - Let us know how it works - I am interested in doing the same
>to save a little weight and increase strength.
>
>-dave
++=

The KR has proven over time to be quite strong enough using
the standard KR cloth.  With only one layer of glass from the
forward spar to the trail edge, and assuming probably the same
amount of resin, I don't see where the extra cost of carbon fiber
could be justified financially for the weight savings of the cloth
alone which, in all probability, will be about the same.  The weight
savings generally comes in using less layers of cloth, which in
this case. you can't do.

The weakest part of the wing is at the attach fittings.  Using carbon
fiber won't change that.  The chain is only as strong as it's weakest
link and you're not improving the weak link.  Carbon fiber is probably
4 times more expensive.  The difference would probably buy a nice
hand held radio.  :-)

Just a thought from the far side...

Larry Flesner



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KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread D Lively
yep:  All that stuff comes from oil!

Don


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Subject: Re: Re: KR> Carbon fibre cloth


> Larry is absolutely correct, except that I think it is now 5 times more 
> expensive, for no gain.
>
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner 
> Date: 2007/05/31 Thu PM 12:27:38 CDT
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> Carbon fibre cloth
>
> At 07:42 AM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Darren - Let us know how it works - I am interested in doing the same
>>to save a little weight and increase strength.
>>
>>-dave
> ++=
>
> The KR has proven over time to be quite strong enough using
> the standard KR cloth.  With only one layer of glass from the
> forward spar to the trail edge, and assuming probably the same
> amount of resin, I don't see where the extra cost of carbon fiber
> could be justified financially for the weight savings of the cloth
> alone which, in all probability, will be about the same.  The weight
> savings generally comes in using less layers of cloth, which in
> this case. you can't do.
>
> The weakest part of the wing is at the attach fittings.  Using carbon
> fiber won't change that.  The chain is only as strong as it's weakest
> link and you're not improving the weak link.  Carbon fiber is probably
> 4 times more expensive.  The difference would probably buy a nice
> hand held radio.  :-)
>
> Just a thought from the far side...
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR> Carbon fibre cloth

2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
It has been 15 yrs or better but at 1 of the gatherings Jeanett told a group of 
use that she had an enginer do a load test of the wing and the carry thru spare 
gave out before the attach fittings. She was woried about folks adding wing 
extensions. It was around 92 or 93 Maybe even earler. 

Larry&Sallie Flesner  wrote:
  At 07:42 AM 5/31/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Darren - Let us know how it works - I am interested in doing the same
>to save a little weight and increase strength.
>
>-dave
++=

The KR has proven over time to be quite strong enough using
the standard KR cloth. With only one layer of glass from the
forward spar to the trail edge, and assuming probably the same
amount of resin, I don't see where the extra cost of carbon fiber
could be justified financially for the weight savings of the cloth
alone which, in all probability, will be about the same. The weight
savings generally comes in using less layers of cloth, which in
this case. you can't do.

The weakest part of the wing is at the attach fittings. Using carbon
fiber won't change that. The chain is only as strong as it's weakest
link and you're not improving the weak link. Carbon fiber is probably
4 times more expensive. The difference would probably buy a nice
hand held radio. :-)

Just a thought from the far side...

Larry Flesner



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2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
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