KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho

2014-12-08 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
That was a friend of mine.  He told me that he had to grab the bottom of
the instrument panel and pull himself forward.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho
From: Mac McConnell-Wood via KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, December 07, 2014 3:57 pm
To: Parley T Byington , KRnet


I seem to recall someone telling me they had to lean over the panel to
get
some forward c of g in order to get out of a spin.

C of g is very important in a short coupled KR.
Over here the CAA stipulated C of G no further back than the rear face
of
the main spar. That was for the original short KR2 - and a long time
ago.
Probably all changed now.
Cheers,
Mac G-BVZJ

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Parley T Byington via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Date: Sunday, Dec.7, 2014
>
> Contrary to some pilots out there, I would like to see the video in
> question. Many things can be learned from the actions of others,
> especially when the actions involve life or death in aircraft. I send my
> condolences to the family and friends of the pilot and feel that since he
> had a camera taking pictures of the flight, many of us could learn about
> the spin characteristics of the KR-2. I feel that this particular pilot
> wanted to learn and possibly pass on his flight experiences to others and
> that is why he went to the trouble of installing the camera. What a shame
> if we pilots don?t take advantage of his experience.
>
> I own N54PB which is a conventional, built to plans KR-2 with a 1830cc VW
> with turbo charger and retractable landing gear. I have never spun my bird
> but had done rolls and stalls in it. I have some training in spins in a
> Citabria over Apple Valley California back in the early 70s. I also have
> about 4000 hours of jet simulator training in F-4s, DC-8, Dc-10, L-1011,
> B-727, and B757.
>
> Your thoughts may very.
>
> Thanks
> Parley Byington
> Byington1954 at embarqmail.com
> Henderson Nevada
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KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho

2014-12-07 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood
I seem to recall someone telling me they had to lean over the panel to get
some forward c of g in order to get out of a spin.

C of g is very important in a short coupled KR.
Over here the CAA stipulated C of G no further back than the rear face of
the main spar.   That was for the original short KR2 - and a long time ago.
Probably all changed now.
Cheers,
Mac   G-BVZJ

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Parley T Byington via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Date:  Sunday, Dec.7, 2014
>
> Contrary to some pilots out there, I would like to see the video in
> question.  Many things can be learned from the actions of others,
> especially when the actions involve life or death in aircraft.  I send my
> condolences to the family and friends of the pilot and feel that since he
> had a camera taking pictures of the flight, many of us could learn about
> the spin characteristics of the KR-2.  I feel that this particular pilot
> wanted to learn and possibly pass on his flight experiences to others and
> that is why he went to the trouble of installing the camera.  What a shame
> if we pilots don?t take advantage of his experience.
>
> I own N54PB which is a conventional, built to plans KR-2 with a 1830cc VW
> with turbo charger and retractable landing gear.  I have never spun my bird
> but had done rolls and stalls in it.  I have some training in spins in a
> Citabria over Apple Valley California back in the early 70s.  I also have
> about 4000 hours of jet simulator training in F-4s, DC-8, Dc-10, L-1011,
> B-727, and B757.
>
> Your thoughts may very.
>
> Thanks
> Parley Byington
> Byington1954 at embarqmail.com
> Henderson Nevada
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KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho

2014-12-07 Thread Parley T Byington
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:  Sunday, Dec.7, 2014

Contrary to some pilots out there, I would like to see the video in question.  
Many things can be learned from the actions of others, especially when the 
actions involve life or death in aircraft.  I send my condolences to the family 
and friends of the pilot and feel that since he had a camera taking pictures of 
the flight, many of us could learn about the spin characteristics of the KR-2.  
I feel that this particular pilot wanted to learn and possibly pass on his 
flight experiences to others and that is why he went to the trouble of 
installing the camera.  What a shame if we pilots don?t take advantage of his 
experience.

I own N54PB which is a conventional, built to plans KR-2 with a 1830cc VW with 
turbo charger and retractable landing gear.  I have never spun my bird but had 
done rolls and stalls in it.  I have some training in spins in a Citabria over 
Apple Valley California back in the early 70s.  I also have about 4000 hours of 
jet simulator training in F-4s, DC-8, Dc-10, L-1011, B-727, and B757.

Your thoughts may very.

Thanks
Parley Byington
Byington1954 at embarqmail.com
Henderson Nevada