KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-19 Thread James Cook
Larry,

<< I would pick a "digital" level, accurate to within 1/10 of a degree over
a laser level. >>

I agree, but I still intend to get both, because I think the two alignment
tools compliment each other.

James


KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-19 Thread Flesner

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>
>Since the 77-153 CL2 - FatMax is not available anymore because Bosh bought
>the CST/Berger company who made it, I narrowed in on the Bosch GLL 2-15
>cross-line laser. It is good for +/1/8" in 30 feet, probably +/1/16" in 15
>feet. It is expensive, but as good as we can expect for now.
>James
>___

If I were still building or started to build again,  I would pick a 
"digital" level, accurate to within 1/10 of a degree over a laser 
level.  The one I purchased many years ago is a 6" removable module 
in a 24" rail.  That, a cheap water level, and a cheap bubble level 
will build a great flying KR.  The digital module is great for 
checking control surface deflection.  It's your money, you spin the 
wheel.  This is one similar to the one I purchased a dozen or more 
years ago.  Looks like the prices have doubled since than.  Mine is 
called a "SmartLevel" and I'd recommend getting the case is available.

http://www.appraiserslaser.com/smarttool-48inch-digital-level.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAsJanBRCgnpfa0orvyz4SJAAbxEq-7P9XJdR7dPWqwsWh3717WYTNqmiT9-wRKOmgrU_ZjRoCNl3w_wcB


Larry Flesner 




KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-17 Thread Mark Langford
James Cook wrote:

 > On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
 > levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines > 
  during a wing alignment.

You may be over-thinking this, if you're not building a "Super2".  A 
water level is all you need for dihedral
(http://www.n56ml.com/owings.html), and a plumbob and chalkline for 
aligning the tips to each other laterally.  Later, you can use some of 
the water level tubing to make a manometer and test your airspeed 
indicator (http://www.n56ml.com/airspeed_calibration/).  The sad thing 
is you can build the plane absolutely perfectly, and propwash will 
require you to add a trim tab to one aileron anyway.  I fretted over 
mine and went to a lot of trouble to get the same kind of plane I'd have 
gotten without all that effort.

But to answer your question, don't buy a level from Harbor Freight like 
the one shown at http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html. After using that level 
to align both N56ML (which was perfect) and N891JF (which is on the 
squirrelly side), I recently used it at work to get some pictures 
hanging in a straight line on the wall... and noticed that the line 
curves!  It's actually an arc that bends up about an inch at both ends 
off a 6' straight line!  So there's no telling what the alignment really 
is on either plane.  Bottom line is test whatever you buy against 
something "known straight" and at least give it a "reasonable test" 
before you use it.

But for wing installation, it's hard to screw up with a water level and 
a plumbob...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-17 Thread Gary Ainsworth
Did I miss something on the video or should  I assume the washout has been 
included on the level line before the epoxy sets?
Gary - Canada
Hi all,

On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
a wing alignment. 




KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-17 Thread CraigW
Well I was mistaken.  I also use one of these when needed.  Those with a tape
measure and your golden.

Triplett 3600 Professional Digital Protractor

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com



> On February 17, 2015 at 6:51 AM CraigW via KRnet  
> wrote:
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> I have been using this one and it seems to do everything I have needed.
>
> 77-153 CL2 - FatMax? Self-Leveling Cross Line Laser Level
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
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> > On February 16, 2015 at 11:54 PM James Cook via KRnet  > list.krnet.org>
> > wrote:
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
> > levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
> > a wing alignment. Could someone enlighten me with specific brands and
> >
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KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-17 Thread Paul Visk
But I am using a 24" digital level.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


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 Original message From: CraigW via KRnet  Date:02/17/2015  6:51 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: James Cook ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> Laser level recommendation needed 

I have been using this one and it seems to do everything I have needed.

77-153 CL2 - FatMax? Self-Leveling Cross Line Laser Level

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com






> On February 16, 2015 at 11:54 PM James Cook via KRnet  list.krnet.org>
> wrote:
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>
> Hi all,
>
> On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
> levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
> a wing alignment. Could someone enlighten me with specific brands and
>
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KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-17 Thread Paul Visk
Wow, that's expensive. ?I'm just using a water level. ?A ?clear piece of ?vinyl 
hose.?

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705


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 Original message From: CraigW via KRnet  Date:02/17/2015  6:51 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: James Cook ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> Laser level recommendation needed 

I have been using this one and it seems to do everything I have needed.

77-153 CL2 - FatMax? Self-Leveling Cross Line Laser Level

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com






> On February 16, 2015 at 11:54 PM James Cook via KRnet  list.krnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
> levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
> a wing alignment. Could someone enlighten me with specific brands and
>
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KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-16 Thread Paul Visk
I personally would not use a laser level. I would use a water level.


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 Original message From: James Cook via KRnet 
 Date:02/16/2015  11:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: KRnet  Subject: KR> Laser 
level recommendation needed 
Hi all,

On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
a wing alignment. Could someone enlighten me with specific brands and
models used or usable for these types of alignments? I see wide price
differences between the various models, so I am trying not to buy "too
little" or "too much" capabilities. What do you use or what would you
recommend to use?

Thanks, James
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KR> Laser level recommendation needed

2015-02-16 Thread James Cook
Hi all,

On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzF50wHhlnc two laser
levelers are used to set up vertical and horizontal reference lines during
a wing alignment. Could someone enlighten me with specific brands and
models used or usable for these types of alignments? I see wide price
differences between the various models, so I am trying not to buy "too
little" or "too much" capabilities. What do you use or what would you
recommend to use?

Thanks, James