KR> Long Wings

[AUnderwood]

There was a lot of talk a few days ago about long wings on the kr2. Did anyone 
come to conclusion? I talked to Jenett a few years ago about long wings like 
the ones that can be built for the kr1 and she said absolutely not. Just 
thought i'd bring it up. Well after a long sleep my KorvaiR 2 project is moving 
once more.

KR> Long Wings

[Dan Heath]

We are talking about the Diehl wings, which have been used on many KRs over
many years with no problems. 

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See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---
 I talked to Jenett a few years ago about long wings like the ones that can be 
built for the kr1 and she said absolutely not.

KR> Long wings

[da...@alltel.net]

I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first KR had stock 
wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet longer.  If I don't like 
the way it behaves, after I get it flying, the option to clip the wings is 
available.  I am also concerned what affect these long wings are going to have 
on the speed of the plane.

Dan H. - BIG RV fly-in at KCUB this Saturday.  Check out EAA242.org for details.

From: larry severson 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2006/03/23 Thu AM 10:51:33 CST
To: KRnet 
Subject: Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness

At 08:30 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote:
>The KR2 will bobble around a bit in rough conditions, but I don't 
>think that any amount of tail surface would do anything to remedy 
>that situation.  I believe that it is due to the short coupling.  I 
>believe that the 2S improved on the short coupling, made it less 
>short, and that is what made that situation less of a situation.

All you have to do is research the GeeBee from the 1930s to know that 
the above is true. It also points out the problems that come with 
extended wings.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com 


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KR> Long wings

[larry severson]

At 09:36 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote:
>I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.   I am also 
>concerned what affect these long wings are going to have on the 
>speed of the plane.

More lift = more drag. Land slow, fly slow.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com 

KR> Long wings

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Is that a KR-2 ?? Virg

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0600  writes:
> I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first KR 
> had stock wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet 
> longer.  If I don't like the way it behaves, after I get it flying, 
> the option to clip the wings is available.  I am also concerned what 
> affect these long wings are going to have on the speed of the 
> plane.
> 
> Dan H. - BIG RV fly-in at KCUB this Saturday.  Check out EAA242.org 
> for details.
> 
> From: larry severson 
> Date: 2006/03/23 Thu AM 10:51:33 CST
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
> 
> At 08:30 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote:
> >The KR2 will bobble around a bit in rough conditions, but I don't 
> >think that any amount of tail surface would do anything to remedy 
> >that situation.  I believe that it is due to the short coupling.  I 
> 
> >believe that the 2S improved on the short coupling, made it less 
> >short, and that is what made that situation less of a situation.
> 
> All you have to do is research the GeeBee from the 1930s to know 
> that 
> the above is true. It also points out the problems that come with 
> extended wings.
> 
> 
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com 
> 
> 
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KR> Long wings

[da...@alltel.net]

Yes, both planes that I referred to are KR2.  The first one had stock wings, 
this one has the Diehl wings which have about a 24.5' wingspan.  My impression 
of it, is that it is too long, but we will see what we will see.

Dan

From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY 
Is that a KR-2 ?? Virg

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0600  writes:
> I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first KR 
> had stock wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet 
> longer.  

KR> Long wings

[da...@alltel.net]

I wonder how the stall speed compares between the stock wing and the Diehl wing 
skin wings.  I think I need a belly board cause I think this thing is going to 
float forever.

Dan


From: larry severson 
More lift = more drag. Land slow, fly slow.

KR> Long wings

[Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff]

Dan.
How close are you now to your initial flight test? Do you have the engine 
back in?
Bud
Lynnwood, WA

- Original Message - 
From: <da...@alltel.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Re: KR> Long wings


> Yes, both planes that I referred to are KR2.  The first one had stock 
> wings, this one has the Diehl wings which have about a 24.5' wingspan.  My 
> impression of it, is that it is too long, but we will see what we will 
> see.
>
> Dan
>
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com>
>Is that a KR-2 ?? Virg
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0600 <da...@alltel.net> writes:
>> I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first KR
>> had stock wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet
>> longer.
>
>
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KR> Long wings

[D F Lively]

Charles:

I have been looking closely at this area and even became more interested whenI
discovered that the KR2 project I took over has wings that are about 10 inches
longer on each side.

I ran the AicCalc program on them and  that revealed a stall of  51 @ a gross
wt. of 885 to 890 pounds.  Music to the ears of people looking to get under the
sport plane limitations.  That means that fixed gear 1835 cc powered KRs should
with an appropriate prop be able to meet the 138 mph max level flight and 51 mph
stall limitations.( an opinion but one must remember that the regulaters make
law where they stand)

Don
  

Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff wrote:

> Dan.
> How close are you now to your initial flight test? Do you have the engine
> back in?
> Bud
> Lynnwood, WA
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <da...@alltel.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: KR> Long wings
>
> > Yes, both planes that I referred to are KR2.  The first one had stock
> > wings, this one has the Diehl wings which have about a 24.5' wingspan.  My
> > impression of it, is that it is too long, but we will see what we will
> > see.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com>
> >Is that a KR-2 ?? Virg
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0600 <da...@alltel.net> writes:
> >> I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first KR
> >> had stock wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet
> >> longer.
> >
> >
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KR> Long wings

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Did you engineer the "G" loads for the center spar ?Virg

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:16:20 -0600  writes:
> Yes, both planes that I referred to are KR2.  The first one had stock 
> wings, this one has the Diehl wings which have about a 24.5' 
> wingspan.  My impression of it, is that it is too long, but we will 
> see what we will see.
> 
> Dan
> 
> From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY 
> Is that a KR-2 ?? Virg
> 
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0600  writes:
> > I have wondered what affect these long wings will have.  My first 
> KR 
> > had stock wings and the wingspan on this one is about 4.5 feet 
> > longer.  
> 
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Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
Miami ,Fl

KR> Long wings

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Get your speed right and it will not float, Virg

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:19:29 -0600  writes:
> I wonder how the stall speed compares between the stock wing and the 
> Diehl wing skin wings.  I think I need a belly board cause I think 
> this thing is going to float forever.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> From: larry severson 
> More lift = more drag. Land slow, fly slow.
> 
> 
> 
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Miami ,Fl