KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-07 Thread Lee Parker
Most automotive paint and supply stores sell the wet paper for final finishing 
the clear coats.  Actually I prefer the palm sander.  It is much easier to use.

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DA is short for "dual action" sander.  It is body shop  lingo to describe 
the air powered sander that has been around a long time.   I have never heard 
of using one with wet or dry paper, but I guess you  could.  I would think 
it would sling filthy water in your face, all over  the shop, and inside 
your project.  Watching out for the sharp edges  is very good advice.  Sanders 
eat through these areas very quickly.   Sort of like when you cover a fabric 
wing and you avoid sanding on the ribs much  to keep from eating through 
the fabric.  Power sanding tools can  do a lot of damage in a hurry if not 
watching what your doing.  Be  careful.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 12/6/2009 8:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

A DA  sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six 
inch  wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it  
wet.  This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on  flat 
surfaces only when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through  the clear 
coat on sharp edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand  with a foam 
sanding block.  A DA sander is a round sander which is  adjustable to 
different speeds.  It makes sanding and finishing a much  easier job.

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In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central  Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some  antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five  coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and 
then  
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.   Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants  that settle in 
the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA  sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing  without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood?  

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
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KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-06 Thread Lee Van Dyke
Porter Cable has a great DA sander that is Electric.  Dry paper is the best. 
400 to 800 grit for getting the old clear coat ready for the new clear. 
They work alot better when they are turned on and not in the box.  lol 
happy sanding.

Lee Van Dyke
Mesa AZ
flying Snakebite 



KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-06 Thread tinya...@aol.com
DA is short for "dual action" sander.  It is body shop  lingo to describe 
the air powered sander that has been around a long time.   I have never heard 
of using one with wet or dry paper, but I guess you  could.  I would think 
it would sling filthy water in your face, all over  the shop, and inside 
your project.  Watching out for the sharp edges  is very good advice.  Sanders 
eat through these areas very quickly.   Sort of like when you cover a fabric 
wing and you avoid sanding on the ribs much  to keep from eating through 
the fabric.  Power sanding tools can  do a lot of damage in a hurry if not 
watching what your doing.  Be  careful.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 12/6/2009 8:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

A DA  sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six 
inch  wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it  
wet.  This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on  flat 
surfaces only when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through  the clear 
coat on sharp edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand  with a foam 
sanding block.  A DA sander is a round sander which is  adjustable to 
different speeds.  It makes sanding and finishing a much  easier job.

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Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009,  4:43 PM




In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central  Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some  antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five  coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and 
then  
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.   Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants  that settle in 
the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA  sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing  without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood?  

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace  of  God


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KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-06 Thread Lee Parker
A DA sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six inch 
wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it wet.  
This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on flat surfaces only 
when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through the clear coat on sharp 
edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand with a foam sanding block.  A 
DA sander is a round sander which is adjustable to different speeds.  It makes 
sanding and finishing a much easier job.

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Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 4:43 PM




In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and then 
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.  Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants that settle in the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood? 

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


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KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-06 Thread j...@aol.com


In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and then 
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.  Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants that settle in the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood? 

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


In God we  trust!


KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-04 Thread Lee Parker
Imron is just a brand name.  Many of the paint company make single stage 
urethane paints that do the same thing.  The urethane paints were used several 
years ago before the base clear coat paints arrived on the scene.  I like the 
premium line base clear coats because they are so much easier to work with.  If 
you get a run or sage, it can easly be sanded and buffed out without repainting 
the entire section.  Also, base clears are so much easier to repair.  You just 
blend into the existing paint and burn in the clear top coat.  It is very hard 
to see where you made the repairs and is less expensive in the long run.  Clear 
coats will buff to a mirror like finish and Imron is very hard to buff 
expecially if is has cured for any length of time.  With clear coats, if you 
get a little lint or dirt in the top coat you simply sand the clear top coat 
with ultra-fine sand paper and buff.  We do some antiques and street cars and 
we will put as high as four
 or five coats of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and then 
3000 grit and buff several times to get the desired finish.  Ultra fine sanding 
takes out all the orange peel and any contamiants that settle in the clear top 
coat.

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What are the advantages and disadvantages of using Imron?
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KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-04 Thread Glenn Martin
What are the advantages and disadvantages of using Imron?
>   
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Glenn Martin
Owner
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com