KR> Sealers and UV protection

2014-01-01 Thread Doran Jaffas
Hello fellow enthusiasts
 This "info" session seems to have invokef some passionate responses.
   Many things can be used to seal wood adequately from airborn
moisture. There is a UV additive available in body shop supply (not auto
part ) stores. It is not cheap but very little is required and the
protection can not be beat.
So many opinions and ways of doing the job are out there that we need
to express what we know without discounting others knowledge unless we know
something is a dangerous practice.
I have been involved with homebuilt aircraft including working with a
NASA engineer on a glider for iver 30 years but still need ti be open to
learning.
  Live well...fly safe...build conservatively.
 Doran Jaffas
  N 186 RC


KR> Sealers and UV protection

2014-01-01 Thread Tinyauto at aol.com
Almost hate to chime in as my question isn't KR related, but there has to  
be others like me that find the KR site the most informative out there.   
So...  When sealing wood that fabric will later be glued down to, is there  
anything I should look out for?   I assume I should scuff the  
varnished/poly/epoxy surface where the glue will be applied to help with  
adhesion. 

Thanks
Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow.





In a message dated 1/1/2014 1:43:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kr2owner at gmail.com writes:

Hello  fellow enthusiasts
This "info" session seems to have  invokef some passionate responses.
Many things  can be used to seal wood adequately from airborn
moisture. There is a UV  additive available in body shop supply (not auto
part ) stores. It is not  cheap but very little is required and the
protection can not be  beat.
So many opinions and ways of doing the job are out  there that we need
to express what we know without discounting others  knowledge unless we know
something is a dangerous practice.
I have been involved with homebuilt aircraft including working with  a
NASA engineer on a glider for iver 30 years but still need ti be open  to
learning.
Live well...fly safe...build  conservatively.
Doran  Jaffas
N 186  RC
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KR> Sealers and UV protection

2014-01-01 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Hey Kevin,
I'll send you a message off-list re: your application.

Chris

On 1/1/2014 1:04 PM, Tinyauto at aol.com wrote:
> Almost hate to chime in as my question isn't KR related, but there has to
> be others like me that find the KR site the most informative out there.
> So...  When sealing wood that fabric will later be glued down to, is there
> anything I should look out for?   I assume I should scuff the
> varnished/poly/epoxy surface where the glue will be applied to help with  
> adhesion.
>   
> Thanks
> Kevin Golden
> Harrisonville, MO
> Streak Shadow.
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
> In a message dated 1/1/2014 1:43:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> kr2owner at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hello  fellow enthusiasts
> This "info" session seems to have  invokef some passionate responses.
> Many things  can be used to seal wood adequately from airborn
> moisture. There is a UV  additive available in body shop supply (not auto
> part ) stores. It is not  cheap but very little is required and the
> protection can not be  beat.
> So many opinions and ways of doing the job are out  there that we need
> to express what we know without discounting others  knowledge unless we know
> something is a dangerous practice.
> I have been involved with homebuilt aircraft including working with  a
> NASA engineer on a glider for iver 30 years but still need ti be open  to
> learning.
> Live well...fly safe...build  conservatively.
> Doran  Jaffas
> N 186  RC
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KR> Sealers and UV protection

2014-01-01 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner

>When sealing wood that fabric will later be glued down to, is there
>anything I should look out for?   I assume I should scuff the
>varnished/poly/epoxy surface where the glue will be applied to help 
>with  adhesion.
>Kevin Golden


Is that being redundant?  Won't the glue / fabric / paint seal the 
wood.  I think Steve Wittman was killed when the wrong process was 
used to cover is O/O special when the fabric de- laminated from the 
wood on the wings.  Make sure you use the correct process as advised 
by the materials manufacturer.

Larry Flesner




KR> Sealers and UV protection

2014-01-01 Thread peter
Yes Larry, Steve believed, from many years of experience with the process, that 
doping through fabric would glue it to the structure, allowing him to skip a 
step. He got away with it except for on his ailerons, which delaminated, 
fluttered, and departed the aircraft. I don't think the KR has any 
aerodynamically-loaded fabric. Scuffing gives a good mechanical bond, peel-ply 
a better mechanical bond, and saturating the cloth and wood in one application 
a superior chemical bond w/epoxy...but not with dope! Peter




>When sealing wood that fabric will later be glued down to, is there>anything I 
>should look out for?   I assume I should scuff the>varnished/poly/epoxy 
>surface where the glue will be applied to help >with  adhesion.>Kevin 
>GoldenIs that 
>being redundant?  Won't the glue / fabric / paint seal the wood.  I think 
>Steve Wittman was killed when the wrong process was used to cover is O/O 
>special when the fabric de- laminated from the wood on the wings.  Make sure 
>you use the correct process as advised by the materials manufacturer.Larry 
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