KR> Strobes
Steve Bennett used to sell a kit that required some solder work and following some instructions that required some trial and error but I managed to put them together. I bought 2 kits for the strobes that were already installed on the wingtips but had never been hooked up. I bought another kit and bought a strobe bulb somewhere and built a "beacon". It's really a strobe, but with those kits Steve sold you could adjust the flash interval so, slowing down the flash makes it look like a beacon. It's mounted on the bottom of the fuselage. You don't have to mount it on the fin in case you'd rather make installation a lot easier and just mount it on the bottom. Or the turtledeck. I forgot my research on this but the regs say you can mount the beacon on either top or bottom. One of those kits went bad so I bought a replacement, for a total of four. The three that are working continue to work well. I think Steve charged thirty or forty dollars for the kit but honestly can't remember. If this LED unit can be had for $50 or so, including the bulbs, I'd say that is a deal. I couldn't find a price on the Spruce site. I have really lousy luck with Spruce's website. Not only could I not find a price, I can't find anything a lot of the time when searching their site. The search function doesn't find things even though you know they carry it and even though you have an exact description. Type in "Slick 4316 magneto harness" and you get the magneto, not the harness. No link to the harness on the Slick magneto page. I never did find the harness the second time. I ended up buying a real Unison harness. The one Spruce sells is an aftermarket jobbie - and probably works as good or better than Unison's. It's so much trouble to get to my magneto though that I just stuck with the correct part. I got so annoyed with Spruce's website I sent them a note and they came back with the explanation that "the search function isn't an exact science." "Slick 4316 magneto harness" seems pretty exact. Maybe it's too exact. I gave up. I just wanted to see how much more I paid buying Unison (Champion these days). I've even used Spruce's part number on occasions and had it not be able to find it's own part, using it's own part number. I think Spruce wants us to call their phone sales staff for some reason. LATER: I just tried again. Same thing. I saw their dropdown choices below the search box had "Slick Magneto Wires" so I thought, "Ah Ha! So _that's_ how you get there!" Nope. "Slick Magneto Wires" takes you to a page with Garmin GX3 system components. I give up again. Back to strobes . . . I've been expecting another failure with my strobe kits so have bought some back-up beacons and strobe flashers on eBay. They're still sitting on my shelf in the hangar since the kits from Great Plains continue to fire. You can find some interesting strobes/flasher things on eBay. Cheap. I bought a very bright 12 volt brand new red rotating beacon for only a few dollars. Yes, it's for a forklift . . . but as Socrates said, "All beacons are fair in the dark."Those LED strobes, if Google is right and these things are just under $50, that's good to know about since I'm sure they use less electricity than normal strobes. LED's are taking over the world. Mike KSEE Laser147 at Juno.com Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $14.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216
KR> strobes
Aircraft spruce has a diagram in there catalog that shows the requirements. I fly a lot in the evening and at night and I can tell you strobes make a bid difference. Some people say I never fly at night but sometimes it happens anyway. From: Jeff Scott To: KRnet Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:56 PM Subject: Re: KR> strobes There are two goals in mounting strobes or a beacon on a plane. ?1) compliance, and 2) visibility. ?Personally, I care a lot more about #2 than #1. ?However, if you are never going to fly at night, compliance may be your only goal. ?Daytime hours, strobes are one of the most useless things on a plane. ?They do about as much good as holding your bic lighter out there during daylight hours. ?At twilight, strobes (or LED flashers) become highly effective to draw the eye to the plane. ?Most guys that fly daytime VFR only, will still be out there at Twilight, which is when planes are difficult to see and Strobes/lights really come into their own. ?Since I do fly during twilight hours, and sometimes at night, I chose to go with a standard Whelen Aircraft Light and strobe package for high visibility. ?As Larry pointed out, it wasn't cheap, but I wanted high visibility. ?One may note that the actual aircraft tip lights may accept an 1156 12 V bulb, an actual aircraft lamp is a bit higher intensity with a reflector built in inside the bulb. I do like the tailights integrated with the strobe and tip light as it draws your eye directly to the lights for easy visual tracking. ?I use a single alternating flash between the tips. ?I tried a quad flash power supply, but the uneven high power draw was causing problems for my old 20 amp DC generator. ?I used the quad flash power supply in my SuperCub instead and went back to my alternating single flash power supply in the KR. Bare in mind that my KR has been flying for 17 years now and I bought the strobe package 19 years ago. ?LED lighting didn't exist 17 years ago. ?If it did, that's what I would have bought. ?The only reason I went with the strobe type lighting on my SuperCub project is that the quad flash strobe power supply just fell into my lap for nothing. Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM > - Original Message - > From: flesner at frontier.com > Sent: 04/13/14 07:58 AM > To: kr2s at mtnguy.com, KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> strobes > > At 08:30 AM 4/13/2014, you wrote: > >The leds can be seen 180 degrees if surface mounted. > +++ > > I think you need 360 degree coverage plus some vertical angle. You > may have to mount several of them to get the required coverage and > for your safety in order to be seen. After all, that's what it's all > about, don't run over me. > > Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.orgto change options
KR> strobes
There are two goals in mounting strobes or a beacon on a plane. ?1) compliance, and 2) visibility. ?Personally, I care a lot more about #2 than #1. ?However, if you are never going to fly at night, compliance may be your only goal. ?Daytime hours, strobes are one of the most useless things on a plane. ?They do about as much good as holding your bic lighter out there during daylight hours. ?At twilight, strobes (or LED flashers) become highly effective to draw the eye to the plane. ?Most guys that fly daytime VFR only, will still be out there at Twilight, which is when planes are difficult to see and Strobes/lights really come into their own. ?Since I do fly during twilight hours, and sometimes at night, I chose to go with a standard Whelen Aircraft Light and strobe package for high visibility. ?As Larry pointed out, it wasn't cheap, but I wanted high visibility. ?One may note that the actual aircraft tip lights may accept an 1156 12 V bulb, an actual aircraft lamp is a bit higher intensity with a reflector built in inside the bulb. I do like the tailights integrated with the strobe and tip light as it draws your eye directly to the lights for easy visual tracking. ?I use a single alternating flash between the tips. ?I tried a quad flash power supply, but the uneven high power draw was causing problems for my old 20 amp DC generator. ?I used the quad flash power supply in my SuperCub instead and went back to my alternating single flash power supply in the KR. Bare in mind that my KR has been flying for 17 years now and I bought the strobe package 19 years ago. ?LED lighting didn't exist 17 years ago. ?If it did, that's what I would have bought. ?The only reason I went with the strobe type lighting on my SuperCub project is that the quad flash strobe power supply just fell into my lap for nothing. Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM > - Original Message - > From: flesner at frontier.com > Sent: 04/13/14 07:58 AM > To: kr2s at mtnguy.com, KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> strobes > > At 08:30 AM 4/13/2014, you wrote: > >The leds can be seen 180 degrees if surface mounted. > +++ > > I think you need 360 degree coverage plus some vertical angle. You > may have to mount several of them to get the required coverage and > for your safety in order to be seen. After all, that's what it's all > about, don't run over me. > > Larry Flesner
KR> strobes
At 08:30 AM 4/13/2014, you wrote: >The leds can be seen 180 degrees if surface mounted. +++ I think you need 360 degree coverage plus some vertical angle. You may have to mount several of them to get the required coverage and for your safety in order to be seen. After all, that's what it's all about, don't run over me. Larry Flesner
KR> strobes
At 08:38 PM 4/12/2014, you wrote: > Try google for Crazed Pilot strobe. They're around $40. My only concern with them is that they appear to be very directional, little wide area coverage. Larry Flesner
KR> strobes
They're actually contained in a plastic "square bubble" that probably adds a little drag. The leds can be seen 180 degrees if surface mounted. When they are flashing they should be easy to notice. I guess that's why we call it experimental. I still have the retracts on N5CJ, and was thinking mounting on the front of the fairing. When retracted they could be in the strobe mode and when extended the landing light mode, we'll see. Dennis Dyer Pine, CO N5CJ http://www.mtnguy.com/kr2 --- flesner at frontier.com wrote: From: flesner at frontier.com To: Subject: KR> strobes List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 07:07:09 -0500 At 08:38 PM 4/12/2014, you wrote: > Try google for Crazed Pilot strobe. They're around $40. My only concern with them is that they appear to be very directional, little wide area coverage. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options _ Get your free e-mail address http://www.mtnguy.com
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For those looking for strobe systems and LED lights check this site. http://www.strobesnmore.com/ -- Eric Pitts Terre Haute, Indiana KR2S
KR> strobes
All Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system are people using? I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true Would this be a system worth looking into or at least for the strobes? John Esch KR-2SSW Independence, OR (7S5)
KR> Strobes
I bought strobes made by Aeroflash Signal in Chicago. The wing tip units contain the white rear light, the front green/red light, and a side mounted strobe. This eliminates the problems with wiring and mounting a tail light on the rudder. They have about one square inch of frontal area, so should be low drag. There are two power supplies for the strobes, and I mounted them on the floor of the fuselage behind the cockpit. They are expensive: Wicks presently lists them on page 196 of their catalog for $432 (part number 156-0049DF). Weight including the power supplies is one pound 2.3 ounces. Current draw is 3.8 to 6.0 amps. One suggestion about wiring. I placed a length of 3/4" diameter plastic wire conduit (from any lumber yard) from the wing tip to the WAF's, then an extension through the stub wing into the fuselage. It makes pulling wires a breeze, and it also carries the tubing from the pitot tube and static port at the outside end of the left wing. Murphy's law says that you will need to change the wiring at some time in the future, and this makes it simple. I used knife connectors covered with heat shrink tubing at the WAF's, then pulled the loose wire under the seat and into the wing tip. That way, there is nothing hanging out to interfere with the aileron cables. As always, your results may vary. Jim Vance va...@claflinwildcats.com
KR> strobes
John, Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I think, he said were easy to get and fairly inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. Good to see you on the net again. Hope everything's well with you and yours. Frank --- John Esch wrote: > All > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > are people using? > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > least for the strobes? > > John Esch > KR-2SSW > Independence, OR (7S5) = Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
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The hotel business uses strobes in the hearing impaired rooms connected to the fire alarm, They are hardwired (110 Volts) AND have 9 or 12 volt back up. They are compact, light and fairley inexpensive but all have milk white lense covers. Use your imagination on that. Check your local hotel Maintence mgr for a source. Pat - Original Message - From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack= true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > = > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > ___ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> strobes
J.C. Whitney has 1,000,000, cpm strobe available and Great Planes also. Personnely I like Steves units. KRron -- Original Message -- From: "patrusso" Reply-To: KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:31:13 -0400 The hotel business uses strobes in the hearing impaired rooms connected to the fire alarm, They are hardwired (110 Volts) AND have 9 or 12 volt back up. They are compact, light and fairley inexpensive but all have milk white lense covers. Use your imagination on that. Check your local hotel Maintence mgr for a source. Pat - Original Message - From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack= true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > = > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > ___ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html Sent via the WebMail system at jrl-engineering.com
KR> strobes
John, The short answer is yes. The strobe you listed on E-bay can be used. I recently inspected a RV-9A that used that strobe power supply. The power supply is also compatable with the Whelen (and most other) aircraft strobes. Evn uses the same plugs. Jeff Scott -- "John Esch" wrote: All Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system are people using? I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true Would this be a system worth looking into or at least for the strobes? John Esch KR-2SSW Independence, OR (7S5) Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!
KR> strobes
The strobes I used came from Wicks. But for the strobes and power unit the cost was about $700 Joe Weber - Original Message - From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > = > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > ___ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> strobes
Radio Shack has 12 volt strobes for alarm systems (Home burglar alarms). Joachim > [Original Message] > From: patrusso > To: KRnet > Date: 9/27/2004 10:38:56 AM > Subject: Re: KR> strobes > > The hotel business uses strobes in the hearing impaired rooms connected to > the fire alarm, They are hardwired (110 Volts) AND have 9 or 12 volt back > up. They are compact, light and fairley inexpensive but all have milk white > lense covers. Use your imagination on that. Check your local hotel Maintence > mgr for a source. > Pat > - Original Message - > From: "F Ross" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:54 AM > Subject: Re: KR> strobes > > > > John, > > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > > Good to see you on the net again. > > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > > Frank > > --- John Esch wrote: > > > > > All > > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > > are people using? > > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack= > true > > > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > > least for the strobes? > > > > > > John Esch > > > KR-2SSW > > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > > > > = > > Frank Ross, > > EAA Chapter 35, > > San Geronimo, TX > > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > > Visit my photo album at: > > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > > > > > ___ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > http://vote.yahoo.com > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Strobes
Here is an RV link from a guy who apparently still has that, "I can it myself" attitude with an RV:-) Check it out, on the cheap strobes. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/oldsfo...@aol.com.09.03.2003/index.html Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
KR>Strobes
Here is a link http://strobesupply.com/ to Strobe Supply.Com which is where I bought all of my strobe lights. They are having a 20% off sale right now. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
