KR> vertical card compass
If anyone is interested, I have a vertical card compass available. It is made by Precision Aviation Inc. and is model PAI-700. It is serial 32549, is lighted (14V) and has a bracket included for mounting on a goare shield. I just removed it from my Bonanza while doing an upgrade. I am asking $100 and will pay ups freight within the US. Bob Lasecki Chicago - long time and still building
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Hi, Bob.
Why do you get rid of it?
Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France
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Objet : KR> vertical card compass
If anyone is interested, I have a vertical card compass available. It is
made by Precision Aviation Inc. and is model PAI-700. It is serial 32549,
is
lighted (14V) and has a bracket included for mounting on a goare shield. I
just
removed it from my Bonanza while doing an upgrade. I am asking $100 and
will
pay ups freight within the US.
Bob Lasecki
Chicago - long time and still building
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Hi Bob, My name is Don Chisholm, I f you don't have any other takers please put my name on the list for your compass. I need a compass to mount on my canopy frame on my KR1 as the hole in my panel for the compass is being used for another engine instrument and want to remotely mount a compass. Please get back to me and let me know and howc you expect payment Regards Donchizmsupholst...@rogers.com j35...@aol.com wrote: If anyone is interested, I have a vertical card compass available. It is made by Precision Aviation Inc. and is model PAI-700. It is serial 32549, is lighted (14V) and has a bracket included for mounting on a goare shield. I just removed it from my Bonanza while doing an upgrade. I am asking $100 and will pay ups freight within the US. Bob Lasecki Chicago - long time and still building ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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I have a new one in the panel which was configured while the plane was in use. The compass is sold. Bob
KR> vertical card compass
Don: It is sold. Sorry. Bob
KR> Vertical Card Compass
I have the Precision Vertical Card compass. They are out of Chicago IL. There unit is FAA certified and I beloieve it is standard equipment in Pipers and several other aircraft. As far as working with the company that makes them. I have had a great experience with them. I wanted to mount mine back in the panel. The problem was that ther was magnetic interference with it in the panel. I made several phone calls to them and I believe I worked with a guy named John. They spent the time to help out me and my several year old compass and how to resolve my issue. The fix was installing magnetic compass shielding and they even recommended who I could get it from. I could not give a higher recommendation for a company and their product. Jeff York Lexington, KY. KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyor...@qx.net - Original Message - From: <da...@alltel.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass > I think they have been around for at least 20 years. I ordered one from AS a long time ago. It was the cheap one. It took forever to be delivered because it was back ordered for a long time. When it arrived, it did not work. I think they are usually very good if you spend the money. I did not want to spend that much money and am using the old air path. > > From: Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed AM 09:02:42 CDT > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass > > Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses? > > (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of > compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled > compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction > Indicator dial). > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Vertical Card Compass
If u don't turn too fast they wk ok. - Original Message - From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass > Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses? > > (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of > compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled > compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction > Indicator dial). > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 > >
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Thanks for the info. Could you explain what magnetic compass shielding
consists of?
Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France
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Objet : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass
I have the Precision Vertical Card compass. They are out of Chicago IL.
There unit is FAA certified and I beloieve it is standard equipment in
Pipers and several other aircraft.
As far as working with the company that makes them. I have had a great
experience with them. I wanted to mount mine back in the panel. The
problem
was that ther was magnetic interference with it in the panel.
I made several phone calls to them and I believe I worked with a guy named
John. They spent the time to help out me and my several year old compass
and
how to resolve my issue. The fix was installing magnetic compass
shielding
and they even recommended who I could get it from.
I could not give a higher recommendation for a company and their product.
Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2
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From: <da...@alltel.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass
> I think they have been around for at least 20 years. I ordered one from
AS a long time ago. It was the cheap one. It took forever to be
delivered
because it was back ordered for a long time. When it arrived, it did not
work. I think they are usually very good if you spend the money. I did
not
want to spend that much money and am using the old air path.
>
> From: Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed AM 09:02:42 CDT
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass
>
> Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses?
>
> (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of
> compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled
> compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction
> Indicator dial).
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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Man is the internet cool or what, Here I am conversing with a guy in France.
I remeber back in my young days as a boy growing up on a farm, that the idea
of communicating with someone in France was either by ham radio or by being
in the service and getting stationed in Europe.
OK, so some of the simple things in life thrill me. Remember , I said a boy
growing up on the farm. Did I mention poor boy on the farm.
Ok, to your subject.
Magnetic shielding is a thin metal that I believe has a high amount of
nickel in it. It is somewhere between aluminum foil and really thin sheet
aluminum.
You wrap the insturment in your panel that is causing the magnetic
interference. The shielding must be at least 1.75 inches away from your
compass. The method of finding the interferring source is to hold your
vertical card compass in your hand ( level) turn on your master switch and
radios. Then while holding your compass, pass it near all of the itmes in
your panel and watch and see which one causes the compass to ms behave. Then
wrap the offending insturment with the shielding material and wire tie it.
Obviously this would be on the back side of the insturment.
This seemed to work fine for me.
You can buy the Magnetic Compass Shield ( MU Metal) can be purchased
directly from Precision Insturments or from Aircraft Spruce. The part number
is 11-00973
Hope this helps
Jeff York
Lexington, KY
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass
Thanks for the info. Could you explain what magnetic compass shielding
consists of?
Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France
<jeffyor...@qx.net>
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26/04/2006 21:34
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Objet : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass
I have the Precision Vertical Card compass. They are out of Chicago IL.
There unit is FAA certified and I beloieve it is standard equipment in
Pipers and several other aircraft.
As far as working with the company that makes them. I have had a great
experience with them. I wanted to mount mine back in the panel. The
problem
was that ther was magnetic interference with it in the panel.
I made several phone calls to them and I believe I worked with a guy named
John. They spent the time to help out me and my several year old compass
and
how to resolve my issue. The fix was installing magnetic compass
shielding
and they even recommended who I could get it from.
I could not give a higher recommendation for a company and their product.
Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net
- Original Message -
From: <da...@alltel.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass
> I think they have been around for at least 20 years. I ordered one from
AS a long time ago. It was the cheap one. It took forever to be
delivered
because it was back ordered for a long time. When it arrived, it did not
work. I think they are usually very good if you spend the money. I did
not
want to spend that much money and am using the old air path.
>
> From: Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed AM 09:02:42 CDT
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass
>
> Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses?
>
> (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of
> compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled
> compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction
> Indicator dial).
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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A small box made out of brass sheet stock comes to mind. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario Thanks for the info. Could you explain what magnetic compass shielding consists of? Serge Vidal -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006
KR> Vertical card compass
At 08:10 AM 4/26/2006, you wrote: >Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses? >Serge Vidal I have one but seldom reference it. About the only time I look at it is when I check it to see if it agrees with the direction I'm going. They are much more stable and easier to read but seem a bit over priced. I traded some labor for mine or probably would be using a "wet" compass. If you can get past the cost, I'd recommend going that route. Larry Flesner
KR> Vertical Card Compass
Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses? (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction Indicator dial). Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France
KR> Vertical card compass
Serge, I have had 2 PA 700 Verticle cards. They have both served me well. Am putting 1 in the brown airplane. Bobby > Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses? > > (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of > compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled > compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction > Indicator dial). > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR>Vertical Card Compass
Jim, Are you able to mount this VCC in your panel? What other instruments are near it, if so? N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ---Original Message--- From: KR builders and pilots List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:59:22 AM To: krnet Subject: KR>Vertical Card Compass Dan Heath asked about my compass and where to buy them: The vertical card compass that I am using is manufactured by Precision Aviation, Inc., 8124 Lockheed, Houston, TX 77061. The model number is PAI-700. They are listed in Aircraft Spruce's catalog, page 335, for $262 95. I wasn't able to find them in Wicks, CPS, or other catalogs. They have internal lighting that is available in 5, 12, or 24 volts. It weighs 0.6 pounds, which is better than some of the other lead lumps out there. Jim Vance va...@claflinwildcats.com
KR>Vertical Card Compass
The only requirement is that the compass is perpendicular to the flight path. My airspeed indicator and altimeter are to the left of it, and a vertical velocity below it. To the right is my gps. I went through the entire test cycle of electrical power on/off, engine running/off, etc. I could not discern any deviation of the compass. However, I did initially have a ten degree deviation. Using a hand-held map compass, I found that my Bowden cables were all magnetized. I used a degaussing coil I had left over from working on TV's in the '70's. The compass has been reliable for more than three years. Jim - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: KR>Vertical Card Compass Jim, Are you able to mount this VCC in your panel? What other instruments are near it, if so? N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
KR>Vertical card compass
I put a vertical card compass in my Renegade three years ago. It has performed flawlessly: you would think it was a directional gyro. When I first installed it, it was deflected 10 degrees at all points of the compass. I used a handheld compass and found that my Bowden cables that I was using for the throttle, choke, and heat controls were all highly magnetized. I degaussed them using a coil that we used to have to use on the TV picture tubes before they installed permanent coils on the newer sets. When I was through, my deviation was about 1 1/2 to 2 degrees. The compass doesn't necessarily have to be on the centerline of the aircraft, but it must be mounted with the face perpendicular to the centerline. Of course, any equipment that has transformers in it will create a magnetic field, so it's best to keep it away from strobe power supplies, etc. I have it mounted about six inches from my GPS and ten inches from the VHF transceiver, and I could not discern any deviation when they were in operation. Jim Vance va...@claflinwildcats.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mylist.net/private/krnet/attachments/20030531/c0af19bc/attachment.htm
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Jim Vance, What is the brand, where do you get them, and do you know the price? N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mylist.net/private/krnet/attachments/20030531/45124aeb/attachment.htm
KR>Vertical Card Compass
Dan Heath asked about my compass and where to buy them: The vertical card compass that I am using is manufactured by Precision Aviation, Inc., 8124 Lockheed, Houston, TX 77061. The model number is PAI-700. They are listed in Aircraft Spruce's catalog, page 335, for $262.95. I wasn't able to find them in Wicks, CPS, or other catalogs. They have internal lighting that is available in 5, 12, or 24 volts. It weighs 0.6 pounds, which is better than some of the other lead lumps out there. Jim Vance va...@claflinwildcats.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mylist.net/private/krnet/attachments/20030531/d8ca4ae1/attachment.htm
