KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
Jeff Scott would be the best person jto ask re this question. He enlarged his tail section and he love it. I know he did the horz. I'm not sure about the vertical though. He is out of town alot these days, but he might get this message. Lee Van Dyke - Original Message - From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness > Hi Guy's; > > I am curious about the effectivness of the verticle stabilizer in it's > stock, plans built size or area. I don't think the rudder needs to be any > larger but mayby the v-stab does. > > Of the people who are actully flying a KR-2, does anyone feel like they > should have made it a tad bit larger to keep it from fish tailing at > times? > > I searched the archives but found nothing. > > Dan. > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >
Jack Lambie comment; Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
In Jack Lambie's book "Composite Construction for Homebuilt Aircraft" he writes about flying with Ken Rand in the KR-2 - "The nose waggle when you move the stick indicates not enough vertical fin area, but in general has a nice responsive feel." Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com - Original Message - From: "Lee Van Dyke" > Jeff Scott would be the best person jto ask re this question. He enlarged > his tail section and he love it. I know he did the horz. I'm not sure > about the vertical though. He is out of town alot these days, but he might > get this message.
Jack Lambie comment; Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
I have the book and I noticed that was the 2 not 2S. I believe the longer tail moment of the stretch took care of that. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario In Jack Lambie's book "Composite Construction for Homebuilt Aircraft" he writes about flying with Ken Rand in the KR-2 - "The nose waggle when you move the stick indicates not enough vertical fin area, but in general has a nice responsive feel." Ed Janssen mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 3/23/2006
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
The KR2 will bobble around a bit in rough conditions, but I don't think that any amount of tail surface would do anything to remedy that situation. I believe that it is due to the short coupling. I believe that the 2S improved on the short coupling, made it less short, and that is what made that situation less of a situation. Dan From: "Doug Rupert" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 2006/03/23 Thu AM 09:48:10 CST To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: Jack Lambie comment; Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness I have the book and I noticed that was the 2 not 2S. I believe the longer tail moment of the stretch took care of that. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario In Jack Lambie's book "Composite Construction for Homebuilt Aircraft" he writes about flying with Ken Rand in the KR-2 - "The nose waggle when you move the stick indicates not enough vertical fin area, but in general has a nice responsive feel." Ed Janssen mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 3/23/2006 -- next part -- ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
At 08:30 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote: >The KR2 will bobble around a bit in rough conditions, but I don't >think that any amount of tail surface would do anything to remedy >that situation. I believe that it is due to the short coupling. I >believe that the 2S improved on the short coupling, made it less >short, and that is what made that situation less of a situation. All you have to do is research the GeeBee from the 1930s to know that the above is true. It also points out the problems that come with extended wings. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 lar...@socal.rr.com
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
I've got about 10 hrs in twins ( senaca), in rough weather they wallow more than the KR. ken wiltrout kutztown, pa - Original Message - From: "larry severson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness > At 08:30 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote: >>The KR2 will bobble around a bit in rough conditions, but I don't >>think that any amount of tail surface would do anything to remedy >>that situation. I believe that it is due to the short coupling. I >>believe that the 2S improved on the short coupling, made it less >>short, and that is what made that situation less of a situation. > > All you have to do is research the GeeBee from the 1930s to know that > the above is true. It also points out the problems that come with > extended wings. > > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > lar...@socal.rr.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 3/23/2006 > >
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
Hi Guy's; I am curious about the effectivness of the verticle stabilizer in it's stock, plans built size or area. I don't think the rudder needs to be any larger but mayby the v-stab does. Of the people who are actully flying a KR-2, does anyone feel like they should have made it a tad bit larger to keep it from fish tailing at times? I searched the archives but found nothing. Dan.
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
At 12:26 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: >I am curious about the effectivness of the verticle stabilizer in >it's stock, plans built size or area. I don't think the rudder needs >to be any larger but mayby the v-stab does. >Of the people who are actully flying a KR-2, does anyone feel like >they should have made it a tad bit larger to keep it from fish >tailing at times? >Dan. + My KR is a 24 inch stretch with stock 2 tail surfaces with the exception of adding 2 inches to the forward edge of the vertical stabilizer. In flight my KR is VERY rudder sensitive. It actually flies better with my feet on the floor than resting on the pedals as I tend to get a heavy foot after a bit. Yaw stability could be a bit better as sometimes I sense the fuselage is flying a degree or two off line. Generally thought it turns out to be a heavy foot as I can take my feet off the pedals and it seems to correct itself. It seems to hold a heading with my feet on the floor, even in mild turbulence. I've never felt like I lacked rudder authority, even in crosswind landings, etc. With 200 hours flight time I have yet to need brakes for directional control on landing or takeoff, even in crosswinds. Unlike Joe, I don't feel a need for any vert stab offset as mine tracks straight in level flight with the ball centered. My gut feel is that a bit more vertical stab is not going to hurt anything. Larry Flesner
KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness
Hi Dan! I have a stock KR2. I have found it to be stable in the roll axis. Now pitch... So I for one, that does not think that you need to enlarge the vstab Brian G. Douglas N8575C with the training wheel ;-) 74.8 hours since converting to the nose gear working on the annual and adding electronic ignition Killeen Texas - Original Message - From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: KR> Verticle stabilizer effectiveness > Hi Guy's; > > I am curious about the effectivness of the verticle stabilizer in it's > stock, plans built size or area. I don't think the rudder needs to be any > larger but mayby the v-stab does. > > Of the people who are actully flying a KR-2, does anyone feel like they > should have made it a tad bit larger to keep it from fish tailing at > times?
