KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Nick Brennan
First off, I am not a normal complainer, but this is getting REALLY 
irritating now.  This is kind of a vent, but I'm also looking for 
information if possible.

I sent out my order for the plans on February 3rd, priority mail, to a city 
that is about 200 miles away from where I am right now.  At the time, I 
figured I was looking at about 2 weeks or so.  3 weeks later, I started 
calling.

I know, there is only one lady running the place, and it is not her full 
time job.  But she had to have been getting my messages.  She finally 
answered (I think it was a mistake) one day, and said "Oh yes, I have your 
check in my hands right now, I'll get the plans in the mail TODAY, priority 
mail."

That was last Monday.  It is now 11 days later.  Priority mail does not take 
that long.

Am I getting scammed here?  I know others have been receiving their plans, 
but I feel like I'm being scammed.  I don't know if I should go to small 
claims court to get the money back or what, but suddenly, what was an 
exciting journey towards building an airplane is beginning to feel like more 
of a chore than it should have been.

If it takes this long to get the plans in, what about something else I'm 
going to need from them?  She mentioned that some parts are only available 
through Rand Robinson.  Am I looking at a multiple month wait for a single 
part that I have to have to continue?

Very dejected, and a moment away from using my wood kit to build a bird 
house,
Nick Brennan
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread RED Robinson


Nick Brennan  wrote:  First off, I am not a normal 
complainer, but this is getting REALLY 
irritating now. This is kind of a vent, but I'm also looking for 
information if possible.

I sent out my order for the plans on February 3rd, priority mail, to a city 
that is about 200 miles away from where I am right now. At the time, I 
figured I was looking at about 2 weeks or so. 3 weeks later, I started 
calling.

I know, there is only one lady running the place, and it is not her full 
time job. But she had to have been getting my messages. She finally 
answered (I think it was a mistake) one day, and said "Oh yes, I have your 
check in my hands right now, I'll get the plans in the mail TODAY, priority 
mail."

That was last Monday. It is now 11 days later. Priority mail does not take 
that long.

Am I getting scammed here? I know others have been receiving their plans, 
but I feel like I'm being scammed. I don't know if I should go to small 
claims court to get the money back or what, but suddenly, what was an 
exciting journey towards building an airplane is beginning to feel like more 
of a chore than it should have been.

If it takes this long to get the plans in, what about something else I'm 
going to need from them? She mentioned that some parts are only available 
through Rand Robinson. Am I looking at a multiple month wait for a single 
part that I have to have to continue?

Very dejected, and a moment away from using my wood kit to build a bird 
house,
Nick Brennan
nickdbren...@comcast.net


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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Glover
OK, and the point of this post is what???


Steve Glover
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP


RED Robinson wrote:

>Nick Brennan  wrote:  First off, I am not a normal 
>complainer, but this is getting REALLY 
>irritating now. This is kind of a vent, but I'm also looking for 
>information if possible.
>
>I sent out my order for the plans on February 3rd, priority mail, to a city 
>that is about 200 miles away from where I am right now. At the time, I 
>figured I was looking at about 2 weeks or so. 3 weeks later, I started 
>calling.
>
>I know, there is only one lady running the place, and it is not her full 
>time job. But she had to have been getting my messages. She finally 
>answered (I think it was a mistake) one day, and said "Oh yes, I have your 
>check in my hands right now, I'll get the plans in the mail TODAY, priority 
>mail."
>
>That was last Monday. It is now 11 days later. Priority mail does not take 
>that long.
>
>Am I getting scammed here? I know others have been receiving their plans, 
>but I feel like I'm being scammed. I don't know if I should go to small 
>claims court to get the money back or what, but suddenly, what was an 
>exciting journey towards building an airplane is beginning to feel like more 
>of a chore than it should have been.
>
>If it takes this long to get the plans in, what about something else I'm 
>going to need from them? She mentioned that some parts are only available 
>through Rand Robinson. Am I looking at a multiple month wait for a single 
>part that I have to have to continue?
>
>Very dejected, and a moment away from using my wood kit to build a bird 
>house,
>Nick Brennan
>nickdbren...@comcast.net
>
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>have a great life 
>   
>   RED 
>
>  
>
Have a great life ? WTF ? OK, I'm rather new here, but is this typical 
of KR2 builders  ? Is this typical of the people who build them ? Sounds 
like it is typical of Rand Robinson..

Guys, I guess you're not worried about ever selling your plane due to 
the product liability issues because this type of behavior only hurts 
the "band" name  I worked for Mercedes a while back. They understand 
this. Ever notice how Mercedes here are ONLY loaded leather interior 
cars with only leather seats and automatics but in Europe you see the 
same car with a manual and no options ? Well, to the factory every car 
is specifically ordered. MB-USA ONLY orders fully loaded MB for here to 
keep the band name synonymous with luxury and quality

When we have experiences like this, Like RED's response, like Nick is 
having, it only reduces the value of our own plane / project. If that is 
what this community is about, maybe it is time to cut my losses and 
start a different project in the next tax bracket, in hopes it will at 
least have perceived value to when done.
-dave



KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread oldbiker...@aol.com
I think that is one fine idea for you to do.We dont need people like you on  
this net!!!
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP
Who?  Me or RED ?

-dave

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>I think that is one fine idea for you to do.We dont need people like you on  
>this net!!!
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread oldbiker...@aol.com
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread oldbiker...@aol.com
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP
LOL   Well either tomorrow we'll hear from people who have a life 
and you're in the minority, or you reflect the group's sentiments and we 
don't belong here or driving the KR2...

-dave

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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread Ronald Wright
Suggest you take this argument off=list..  The
gentleman was only airing his disgust with the way RR
was handling the situation..  Telling someone they are
going to go in the mail today PRIORITY MAIL and 11
days later still no plans;  seems like he has a very
good beef with RR..

Why are you guys trying to run off someone who wants
to build the KR??

Ron


--- "Dave Arbogast, CISSP"  wrote:

> LOL   Well either tomorrow we'll hear from
> people who have a life 
> and you're in the minority, or you reflect the
> group's sentiments and we 
> don't belong here or driving the KR2...
> 
> -dave
> 
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> 
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread bobby burington
Ron I'm with you, this argument belongs somewhere else, 

  and Nick , if you would like,  I have an extra set of plans that I would be 
happy to mail to you to start looking over and get started, if you agree to 
return them when your set gets there. send an email to my own email address 
with your postal mailing address if you want me to mail them.

  I have my own set that I am working from, milled every part of lumber and 
most all of the metal parts totally from scratch myself. It is a fun project.

  Robert

Ronald Wright  wrote:
  Suggest you take this argument off=list.. The
gentleman was only airing his disgust with the way RR
was handling the situation.. Telling someone they are
going to go in the mail today PRIORITY MAIL and 11
days later still no plans; seems like he has a very
good beef with RR..

Why are you guys trying to run off someone who wants
to build the KR??

Ron


--- "Dave Arbogast, CISSP" wrote:

> LOL  Well either tomorrow we'll hear from
> people who have a life 
> and you're in the minority, or you reflect the
> group's sentiments and we 
> don't belong here or driving the KR2...
> 
> -dave
> 
> oldbiker...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >NOT RED
>
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread PHILLIP MATHESON
Why are you guys trying to run off someone who wants
to build the KR??

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I agree. Have we got to the stage of not being able comment on problems that 
effect
us building.


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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Faxed your info to RR. When reply comes in I will advise
the group as to the answer, Virg

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:04:54 -0700 "Nick Brennan"
 writes:
> First off, I am not a normal complainer, but this is getting REALLY 
> irritating now.  This is kind of a vent, but I'm also looking for 
> information if possible.
> 
> I sent out my order for the plans on February 3rd, priority mail, to 
> a city 
> that is about 200 miles away from where I am right now.  At the 
> time, I 
> figured I was looking at about 2 weeks or so.  3 weeks later, I 
> started 
> calling.
> 
> I know, there is only one lady running the place, and it is not her 
> full 
> time job.  But she had to have been getting my messages.  She 
> finally 
> answered (I think it was a mistake) one day, and said "Oh yes, I 
> have your 
> check in my hands right now, I'll get the plans in the mail TODAY, 
> priority 
> mail."
> 
> That was last Monday.  It is now 11 days later.  Priority mail does 
> not take 
> that long.
> 
> Am I getting scammed here?  I know others have been receiving their 
> plans, 
> but I feel like I'm being scammed.  I don't know if I should go to 
> small 
> claims court to get the money back or what, but suddenly, what was 
> an 
> exciting journey towards building an airplane is beginning to feel 
> like more 
> of a chore than it should have been.
> 
> If it takes this long to get the plans in, what about something else 
> I'm 
> going to need from them?  She mentioned that some parts are only 
> available 
> through Rand Robinson.  Am I looking at a multiple month wait for a 
> single 
> part that I have to have to continue?
> 
> Very dejected, and a moment away from using my wood kit to build a 
> bird 
> house,
> Nick Brennan
> nickdbren...@comcast.net
> 
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

2008-10-12 Thread rahu...@peoplepc.com
I found this on the web - and found it to be true - I have experience
delivery times as long a 3 weeks in the past. - The scam may be the Post
Office and "Priority Mail"

"Postal Service Priority Mail: The Postal Service advertises 2-3 business
days for delivery and they deliver Monday through Saturday except Holidays.
However, the Postal Service does NOT Guarantee Priority Mail shipping time.
While many shipments will arrive in 2-3 days after shipping, it is not
uncommon for a Priority mail shipment to take longer to arrive at its
destination. "

Rick Human
Houston, Texas

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From: "Nick Brennan" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:04 PM
Subject: KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???


>
> That was last Monday.  It is now 11 days later.  Priority mail does not
take
> that long.
>
> Am I getting scammed here?

> Nick Brennan
> nickdbren...@comcast.net
>
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