KR> Wing Skin Reinforcement

2008-10-17 Thread Martek Mississippi
Thanks all
That tells me some info I needed.
 I do have damage to the wings and cowling that need repair, but it 
sounds like I can do the repairs and get her flying again  using the 
standard techniques. Afterwards, using my idea,  I will  try some tests on 
small prototype Glass-Foam-CF sandwich sections and see what the difference 
is. If it's to my satisfaction, I'll do that with a set of new airfoils. The 
old ones are RAF-48.
I'm still going to add the lifting attachments though, as my trailer 
will have a boom which should allow me to easily and quickly attach the 
wings without putting any undue stress on the wings. The time spent 
attaching the wings has been a common complaint and I think I can improve on 
that, as I don't intend to hanger her, but keep her in an enclosed, vented 
trailer. The weight of the wings isn't the problem, the bulkiness is.
BTW..To clarify: the crosshatch of Vee grooves are lines at an approx. 
60 degree angle to each other, extending  from spar to spar, cut INTO and 
bonded to the foam used for the skin form. I am STILL using the sandwich 
construction Mark L uses. Each parallel groove is spaced 10-12 inches apart 
(Think of the pattern  between the spars, top of each X to Fwd spar, 
bottom of each X to Aft spar, 10-12 inches between the center of each X). 
The inside of the CF angle would then be filled with foam again, pretty much 
impregnating the CF angle into the original foam form except for some 
material which would used to bond it to the skin (think little flaps of CF 
to each side of the groove). I don't expect  the weight penalty to be 
substantial.
I need to make a drawing. A picture speaks a thousand words. I'm not 
good with CAD, but it  looks like I'll be learning.

Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi ,MS

> Just between you and me, I have about two square feet of lower wing
>that's pure mush because my right wheel pant got ripped off and stuffed 
>into
>it when I landed 20 yards short of the runway on my second crank break.
>I've been flying it that way for nine months now, although I plan to fix it
>over the winter, if I can quit flying for long enough.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com


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KR> Wing Skin Reinforcement

2008-10-17 Thread Joseph H. Horton
Glen wrote:
> In this step, prior to laying up the outer layer of CF, I will 
> put a 
> crosshatch of 3/4" wide Vee grooves in the outer layer of foam, and 
> then 
> fill those grooves with a layer of CF, which would form a grid of 
> reinforcing angles UNDER the outer skin when that is applied. It 
> seems like 
> a reasonable extra bit of work to do for some extra peace of mind.

I had to cut some grooves in the foam to get my wing back to the
exact shape that  I wanted after glassing the bottom half. These were
filled with micro and dressed up before I glassed the top. The finish was
beautiful when I got them back from the paint shop. About a month after
it was at the airport in the summer the grooves started to mirror through
the finish and the glass and have never gone away. ( I know you guys had
to have seen them) I wouldn't do anything to that foam underneath the
glass except keep it perfect and undamaged till the glass is on.

> I'm also going to add four 1/4 inch threaded inserts into the 
> top of the 
> spars (2 front , 2 rear).That allows me to  put Eyebolts into the 
> wings 
> during ground operations and lift them using a boom, thus being able 
> to 
> load, unload and attach the wings by myself without putting stress 
>
Seems like over kill also. I did one insert of a sort under each
wing to thread in a tie down, but at 48 # the wings are only just
awkward. I use a creeper that folds up into a seat with  a piece of foam
on it to support the wing for off and on and can just roll it round on
the seat.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

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