KR> prop sticking to hub

[Wayne Tokarz]

Sorry about the windshield...but it is done, safety glass cannot be buffed,
polished or anything. A single edge razor, (with care) is very good for
removing stuck or caked on debris from both the windshield and the hub. Care
must be exercised not to scratch anything. Using ANY product that requires a
"sanding motion" will invariably have an abrasive component to it and this
is to be avoided unless you are goal is to use abrasives to accomplish the
task, ie: sanding or polishing, not cleaning. Use a bar of soap and rub a
little on the back of the prop, polish lightly to smooth it out, use your
finger to get a little in the holes or on the drive dogs. Any automotive
paste wax will do the same thing, more IS NOT better. 

Wayne 

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: April-20-13 6:38 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub

- Original Message -
From: "Randy Powell" 

> Make it stainless steel steel wool.   But I would still use a fine 
> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.

Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves
in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads
contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my
car and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field
of view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to
see my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off
easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now
I have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR
now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new
windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com




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Pls don't use steel wool on plex or lexan on canopy, will scratch.. Glass not 
so much..

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From: "Lee Parker" 
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Date: Sun, Apr 21, 2013 8:14 pm
Subject: KR> prop sticking to hub
To: "KRnet" 

We use steel wool to clean up windshields on auto all the time. ?It does not 
damage them. ?Scotchbrite will.



 From: Randy Powell 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub


I did not know that scotchbrite pads contained steel particles.?  Very good to 
know.? Thanks for the info.

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Mark Jones"  wrote:

> - Original Message - From: "Randy Powell"  verizon.net>
> 
>> Make it stainless steel steel wool.?  But I would still use a fine 
>> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.
> 
> Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves 
> in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads 
> contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my car 
> and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field of 
> view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to see 
> my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off 
> easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now I 
> have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR 
> now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new 
> windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Lee Parker]

We use steel wool to clean up windshields on auto all the time. ?It does not 
damage them. ?Scotchbrite will.



 From: Randy Powell 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub


I did not know that scotchbrite pads contained steel particles.?  Very good to 
know.? Thanks for the info.

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Mark Jones"  wrote:

> - Original Message - From: "Randy Powell"  verizon.net>
> 
>> Make it stainless steel steel wool.?  But I would still use a fine 
>> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.
> 
> Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves 
> in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads 
> contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my car 
> and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field of 
> view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to see 
> my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off 
> easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now I 
> have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR 
> now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new 
> windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Randy Powell]

I did not know that scotchbrite pads contained steel particles.   Very good to 
know.  Thanks for the info.

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:38 PM, "Mark Jones"  wrote:

> - Original Message - From: "Randy Powell"  verizon.net>
> 
>> Make it stainless steel steel wool.   But I would still use a fine 
>> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.
> 
> Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves 
> in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads 
> contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my car 
> and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field of 
> view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to see 
> my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off 
> easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now I 
> have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR 
> now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new 
> windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> prop sticking to hub

[Mark Jones]

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Powell" 

> Make it stainless steel steel wool.   But I would still use a fine 
> scotchbrite pad on the hub and not steel wool.

Scotchbrite pads contain fine particles of steel that will embed themselves 
in your wood prop and will scratch your hub. I did not know Scotchbrite pads 
contained steel particles. I had just replaced a cracked windshield in my 
car and somehow got a real hard substance like sap right in my drivers field 
of view. Regular glass cleaner would not get it off and I just happened to 
see my box of Scotchbrite pads and grabbed one thinking it would get it off 
easily. Well it pretty much did and it also scratched my windshield and now 
I have a very annoying spot right in my line of sight. I know this is off KR 
now but if anyone knows a remedy to get the scratches out of my new 
windshield I would appreciate you letting mme know. Thanks


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Randy Powell]

Make it stainless steel steel wool.   But I would still use a fine scotchbrite 
pad on the hub and not steel wool

Sent from my Ipad
Randy Powell
Wachapreague Va 23480


On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Dennis Cook  wrote:

>  steel wool is the finest you can buy. It just polishes.
> 
> Also use it to micro scrub/polish your car windshield and follow it up with 2 
> coats of RaineX. Almost no need for wipers after that.
> 
> 
>  
> DC
> Bothell, WA
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Dan Branstrom <4dan.branstrom at gmail.com>
>> To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub
>> 
>> 
>> The suggestion was:  "I'd use automotive wax applied with 4 ought steel wool 
>> for maintaining and polishing."
>> Would using steel wool leave tiny particles of steel to corrode?  Is there 
>> something better?  Or am I being too picky?
>> Dan Branstrom
>> 
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[Dennis Cook]

 steel wool is the finest you can buy. It just polishes.

Also use it to micro scrub/polish your car windshield and follow it up with 2 
coats of RaineX. Almost no need for wipers after that.


?
DC
Bothell, WA



>
> From: Dan Branstrom <4dan.branstrom at gmail.com>
>To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:52 PM
>Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub
> 
>
>The suggestion was:? "I'd use automotive wax applied with 4 ought steel wool 
>for maintaining and polishing."
>Would using steel wool leave tiny particles of steel to corrode?? Is there 
>something better?? Or am I being too picky?
>Dan Branstrom
>
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KR> prop sticking to hub

[Dan Branstrom]

The suggestion was:  "I'd use automotive wax applied with 4 ought steel 
wool for maintaining and polishing."
Would using steel wool leave tiny particles of steel to corrode?  Is 
there something better?  Or am I being too picky?
Dan Branstrom

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Wayne Tokarz]

Soap?yep, simple, I got this from some old guys he did it wy back when all 
there was, was wood props.



Wayne



From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of brian.kraut 
at eamanufacturing.com
Sent: April-19-13 7:57 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> prop sticking to hub



When I took off my Sterba wood prop today the crush plate was stuck to it and 
it took a rap from a soft hammer to get it off and some varnish came with it.  
It was stuck even worse to the hub and I really had a hell of a time getting it 
off and half of the varnish from the prop stayed stuck to the hub.  



I got the prop about 3 weeks ago so the varnish was well cured and it was only 
on the plane for two days and properly torqued.  I have had this problem with 
other Sterba props on different planes also.



Any suggestions on how I can keep it from sticking when I put it back on?  Not 
sure if a good wax would do it or not.  Thinking of maybe putting Saran wrap 
between the prop and the hub then trimming it after torquing the bolts.  Any 
better ideas?

KR> prop sticking to hub

[kr2pi...@gmail.com]

Pls make sure to put prop back on as originally positioned to match up your 
urathane tears. , or clean hub, and carefully refinnish prop flannge surface. 
The wax is a good idea, ad no foreign "stuff" that can possibly chafe and 
loosen correct torque. Remember, no one ever had to do the dreaded slide glide 
abruptly due to a prop that was stuck to the hub..  However, when a prop gets 
"spit off" it sidetracks your pretty  day of boring random holes in a blue 
sky... My 2 cents. 
Tailwheel and 32 years airborne. (no parts left in flight) 

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Date: Fri, Apr 19, 2013 9:57 am
Subject: KR> prop sticking to hub
To: "KRnet" 

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Teate, Stephen]

?Thinking of maybe putting Saran wrap between the prop and the hub then 
trimming it after torquing the bolts?

Brian,

I have to admit that while I was reading your post the thought of ?wax paper? 
was going through my mind?

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Pat and Robin Russo]

I'd use automotive wax applied with 4 ought steel wool for maintaining and 
polishing. It's an added  good finish over varnished surfaces. I have used 
it on boats, musical instruments and newly built furniture successfully.
Pat Russo

-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Scott
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:46 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> prop sticking to hub






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KR> prop sticking to hub

[peter]

Yes, My recent Sterba prop was just dry enough to ship. He works in a humid 
environment and ships immediately. He warns explicitly that his urethane 
leading edge needs to cure before use. Nothing wrong with letting the varnish 
glue the prop to the hub. Peter

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Jeff Scott]

Sounds like Ed is rushing his finish a bit. ?I would try waxing the hub and 
crush plate, or perhaps painting the hub and back of the prop with PVA as a 
release agent. ?The important thing here (which I'm sure you alread know) is to 
not add any anything between the prop and hub that is going to either crush 
down allowing your prop bolt torque to go slack, or add an uneven space that 
will cause your prop tracking to be off. ?

FWIW, it seems like every time I buy a new prop, regardless of the vendor, they 
show up with the varnish barely set and often times some of the final finish 
stuck to the wrapping paper. ?The varnish is dry on the surface, but not fully 
cured underneath, so when you torque it down, some uncured varnish will weep 
through the surface and glue it to the hub. ?I suspect an afternoon out in the 
warm sun before mounting for the first time would probably do wonders for 
curing the finish.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


---
When I took off my Sterba wood prop today the crush plate was stuck to it and 
it took a rap from a soft hammer to get it off and some varnish came with it. 
?It was stuck even worse to the hub and I really had a hell of a time getting 
it off and half of the varnish from the prop stayed stuck to the hub. 

I got the prop about 3 weeks ago so the varnish was well cured and it was only 
on the plane for two days and properly torqued. ?I have had this problem with 
other Sterba props on different planes also.

Any suggestions on how I can keep it from sticking when I put it back on? ?Not 
sure if a good wax would do it or not. ?Thinking of maybe putting Saran wrap 
between the prop and the hub then trimming it after torquing the bolts. ?Any 
better ideas?

KR> prop sticking to hub

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

On 4/19/2013 10:17 AM, Teate, Stephen wrote:
>
> ?Thinking of maybe putting Saran wrap between the prop and the hub then 
> trimming it after torquing the bolts?
>
> Brian,
>
> I have to admit that while I was reading your post the thought of ?wax paper? 
> was going through my mind?
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
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 Be careful, no movement between the prop and hub.
 Friction will cause a fire, Virg

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