Re: [Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
Hi, sorry for late response, but i have some health problems. Thanks for explanation of the situation :-) Dňa Sun, 8 May 2011 00:15:17 +0200 Zoltan Padrah zoltan.pad...@gmail.com napísal: Hi, 2011/5/7 Slavko slav...@slavino.sk: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 May 2011 21:37:33 +0200 Zoltan Padrah zoltan.pad...@gmail.com napísal: Hello, since the last update on the components, the following improvements have been made: thanks for report. Please, can you please write small report for us, which are not developers, too? :-) In last days the KTechlab was removed from debian (testing), and then it will be removed from all distros, which are debian based. This is not a good news. I guess we will have to get in contact with the maintainers, and see what needs to be done. Is Ktechlab installable and how is usable? Is here some (alfa|beta) release? Status: Ktechlab is split in 2 parts now: - gui: in master git branch; for Julian it works, I've ran into strange installation problems. It supposed to have the drawing and routing part working. (here comes some kdevplatform plugin system bashing) - simulator: it's in the minimal_simulator branch, mostly I'm working on it. The simulator core seems to be working, I'm porting the components and writing test cases for them. Depending in the effort i can allocate to it, in a few months it should be completely functional. - we should see how we can integrate the simulator with the Caneda project; this way a simple, qt based gui could be available Todo: - merge the 2 branches; we should have the flexibility for usage with 2 user interfaces - after we have the source code in 1 place, start integrating the components from the simulator with the gui parts - meanwhile porting more and more components can be done These are the next tasks to do. More on the list are the flowcode, microbe, and so on. For now, the gui can be tested, but it has some installation issues. The simulator also has some test-cases, which will print out (hopefully) everything OK. An alpha should be released when a few components can be tested with the gui. How long will be porting - in weeks, in moths or in years? Is here some plan? I'd say it highly depends on the time we can invest in it. I'd like to have the first testable version out in 3 months, then progressively reach feature parity with 0.3.7. -- s pozdravom Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
[Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
Hello, since the last update on the components, the following improvements have been made: - ground search seems to work well; - current source works; - inductor and - capacitor seem to pass basic tests - porting of the diode (ECDiode) has been started. It seems that the diode is broken. It shows very strange values. I guess I will try to compare it to the last versions that worked... That's all for now. When we know how to integrate the simulator in the main branch (see the previous email on the list), I'd like to have this branch merged to the main branch. Have a nice weekend, Zoltan -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
Re: [Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 May 2011 21:37:33 +0200 Zoltan Padrah zoltan.pad...@gmail.com napísal: Hello, since the last update on the components, the following improvements have been made: thanks for report. Please, can you please write small report for us, which are not developers, too? :-) In last days the KTechlab was removed from debian (testing), and then it will be removed from all distros, which are debian based. Is Ktechlab installable and how is usable? Is here some (alfa|beta) release? How long will be porting - in weeks, in moths or in years? Is here some plan? regards -- s pozdravom Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
Re: [Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
Hi, 2011/5/7 Slavko slav...@slavino.sk: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 May 2011 21:37:33 +0200 Zoltan Padrah zoltan.pad...@gmail.com napísal: Hello, since the last update on the components, the following improvements have been made: thanks for report. Please, can you please write small report for us, which are not developers, too? :-) In last days the KTechlab was removed from debian (testing), and then it will be removed from all distros, which are debian based. This is not a good news. I guess we will have to get in contact with the maintainers, and see what needs to be done. Is Ktechlab installable and how is usable? Is here some (alfa|beta) release? Status: Ktechlab is split in 2 parts now: - gui: in master git branch; for Julian it works, I've ran into strange installation problems. It supposed to have the drawing and routing part working. (here comes some kdevplatform plugin system bashing) - simulator: it's in the minimal_simulator branch, mostly I'm working on it. The simulator core seems to be working, I'm porting the components and writing test cases for them. Depending in the effort i can allocate to it, in a few months it should be completely functional. - we should see how we can integrate the simulator with the Caneda project; this way a simple, qt based gui could be available Todo: - merge the 2 branches; we should have the flexibility for usage with 2 user interfaces - after we have the source code in 1 place, start integrating the components from the simulator with the gui parts - meanwhile porting more and more components can be done These are the next tasks to do. More on the list are the flowcode, microbe, and so on. For now, the gui can be tested, but it has some installation issues. The simulator also has some test-cases, which will print out (hopefully) everything OK. An alpha should be released when a few components can be tested with the gui. How long will be porting - in weeks, in moths or in years? Is here some plan? I'd say it highly depends on the time we can invest in it. I'd like to have the first testable version out in 3 months, then progressively reach feature parity with 0.3.7. regards -- s pozdravom Slavko http://slavino.sk -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
Re: [Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
Update on the EcDiode component: 2011/5/7 Zoltan Padrah zoltan.pad...@gmail.com: - porting of the diode (ECDiode) has been started. It seems that the diode is broken. It shows very strange values. I guess I will try to compare it to the last versions that worked... The porting is done. I've took the code from v0.3.7, and adapted it a little. It seems to work correctly. Testcase and code added to git. -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
Re: [Ktechlab-devel] News about the simulator since the last update
2011/5/8 Alan Grimes agri...@speakeasy.net: Zoltan Padrah wrote: Yeah, that's been problematic for a long time. I strongly suggest you beg/borrow/steal/even buy a copy of Circuit Simulation by Farid N. Najm. The simulator in ktechlab tries to be a quick hackjob to work on a Pentium 2. If you want a simulator that actually works, and computes currents correctly, then you need to study the book. =\ It's a problem of time and energy. Both are limited. The simulator seems to generate the correct output, so until proven otherwise, it's good enough (tm). I'm adding test cases, so if someone can make a test which show a problem, then we it can be tested. Qucs project has some nice, free documentation on simulation. In some cases I use that. But right now our priority is getting running on QT4. Agreed. At this point I vote that we declare kdevplatform a lost cause because it is about as stable as a free neutron (which has an 18 minute half-life). This issue needs more investigation. In theory kdevplatform is nice but the implementation has some problems. Maybe we should hack it around, and ship a hacked version with ktechlab. But then we have to maintain that. Are there other document/project management frameworks that are more stable? Kdevplatform tries to be a software platform, for easier development and high integration. -- IMPEACH OBAMA NOW. Presidents cannot be allowed to start wars. Powers are not rights. -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Ktechlab-devel mailing list Ktechlab-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ktechlab-devel
