failed to upgrade to Kubuntu 11.11

2011-10-14 Thread Valter Mura
Hi All

I failed to upgrade to the new kubuntu version, Oneiric 11.11 due to an error 
in fetching the updates as follows:

Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/***

*** stands for repository/package

There is obviously something wrong with my system or the repository.

I've also opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/873853

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Re: UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

2011-10-14 Thread Aurélien Gâteau

Le 14/10/2011 01:02, Markus Slopianka a écrit :

On Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2011 19:02:15 Lydia Pintscher wrote:

Markus, would you please at least try to work nicely with KDE's
downstream? This discussion isn't helpful. Thanks!


So Scott's ranting against upstream is OK?


Yes. Definitely much more OK than your unproductive emails.

Aurélien (upstream - downstream dual-head creature)

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Re: UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

2011-10-14 Thread Markus Slopianka
 Yes.
Wrong!

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Re: failed to upgrade to Kubuntu 11.11

2011-10-14 Thread Dan Chen
On Oct 14, 2011 2:08 AM, Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 I failed to upgrade to the new kubuntu version, Oneiric 11.11 due to an
error
 in fetching the updates as follows:

 Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/***

 *** stands for repository/package

 There is obviously something wrong with my system or the repository.

 I've also opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/873853

Release day traditionally has been very hard on the download mirrors. Have
you tried another one? How about torrenting an ISO and dist-upgrading using
it? And, of course, one could wait a few days... :-)

Metta,
-Dan
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Re: Re: Re: UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

2011-10-14 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Thursday, October 13, 2011 07:11:12 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
 Please keep this civil and family friendly. Which is to say: cut it out with
 the f bombs! We have a code of conduct. Please follow it.
My apologies, Will do from now on don't know what happened to me yesterday, it 
was late :p

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Re: about kmail2 and UDS considerations

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Hall
Your lucky.. I've been battling with kmail2 since it was first added to the 
kubuntu experimental ppa for Natty. My usage pattern is probably significantly 
different to a lot of users and the shear quantity of email I receive is 
probably a factor. For a start I use IMAPS connecting to a Kolab server which 
hosts a lot of shared folders. Some of the folders hold in excess of 10K 
emails. This is due to company policy which dictates a 6 month expiry on a lot 
of emails such as logwatch reports and these can be quite large emails, so we 
have quantity in numbers and size. I work remotely most of the time so I have 
all mail cached localy.

Problems so far. 

Migration from kmail - never got this to work and eventually just downloaded 
all email again.
DB corruption - Akonadi/mysql managed to corrupt itself - redownload all email 
(which can be a couple of days of a job).
Sent emails - disappearing into a black hole.
Performance - Opening large email folders can take an age. Go away make a 
coffee and come back to PC age (and it's not a low spec PC but a dual quad core 
with 16GB of RAM and a SCSI+SAS disc subsytem with hardware RAID).
Astonomical CPU Usage - Nepomuk using 300% CPU (ie 3 full CPU cores on an 8 
core machine). Now disabled nepomuk but akonadi complains every boot.
Inactivity/lack of feedback - Press Check mail and have kmail2 do nothing. No 
indication of anything happening, no error messages, no progress bars.. Zip.. 

kmail2/akonadi is not production ready in my case. Not even close. I've now 
bitten the bullet and left kmail2 behind on my works account switching to 
Thunderbird. I'll continue to use kmail2 on my personal account (Nepomuk 
disabled) which seems to be behaving itself so far. 

UnfortunatelyI haven't been able to reliably reproduce a lot of the issues so 
I can't file useful bug reports upstream.

It annoys me when people state that part of the problem is a lack of manpower 
when some of the recent commits to kmail2 have been adding features rather 
than fixing the multitude of problems with the base project. Surely if kmail2 
is that short of developers all hands should be bug fixing until it's 
stabilised and new features should not be accepted into the codebase? 

 so, i just tried kmail 2 to help bugger it.  Got no problems here.  dunno
 what he's spoutin off about.
 
 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Markus Slopianka 
marku...@kdemail.netwrote:
  On Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2011 20:01:14 KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
   This can't be justified by an understaffed team, if so, just don't
   do
  
  it
  
   and users have to wait another year.
  
  Yes, it can if there aren't even enough people to maintain two branches
  at the same time.
  
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Re: [kubuntu-devel] Re: UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

2011-10-14 Thread txwikinger

On 11-10-13 07:03 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 03:43:27PM -0400, txwikinger wrote:

KDE5? Wouldn't it be better to create a good stable product before
always running to new, instable versions?

Fear not, KDE Frameworks 5 isn't a rewrite a la KDE 4, it's a
reorganisation to make the libraries more modular but only small
ABI/API changes.  Applications will be largely unchanged.


I think we have to rethink some things anyway. I believe we should have
stable versions as default, and bleeding edge in PPAs in order to be
able to choose what to use. FLOSS is to a big extend really about
choice. The non-technical user wants a stable solution, the technical
user is usually expert enough to work with PPAs.

Generally we do have stable versions by default.  Kontact is a problem
in this release.  Do you have anything else in mind?

Jonathan

Well, I do not want to sound like everything is bad. However, over the 
last year I feel the general quality has started to
suffer again. While I used to have stable systems, since maverick I 
started to have system freezes that got more
frequent when time went along. And often bugs take a long time to fix. I 
first raised the kded4 daemon spawning defunct child processes almost a 
year ago and it got finally fixed a couple of weeks ago (ending up being 
the kubuntu notification system)


I really believe we somehow should get more into TDD and have far more 
automatic testing. However, that is probably another discussion.


Somehow I have to say I only use KDE partially now because of the 
problems. I still use the desktop, but I use FF for my web development I 
do (which I get paid for) and mutt/thunderbird for e-mail. I am not very 
happy with those apps either. FF is becoming more instable every new 
release and I find both apps far too bloaded. However, on the other 
hand, I am waiting and waiting for apps in KDE that I can use instead 
and somehow either they do not have the necessary feature set 
(non-compliant rendering/js-engine) or are just a continuous disaster 
like kmail.


I do not think I did not have one installation for 2 years for which I 
got all the background daemons working all without errors and not 
dragging down the performance of the machine. I continuously disable 
nepomuk because of performance and akonadi always stops because of 
errors (not that I am really using it anyway without kmail/kontact).


Since I have more to do in my business and hence far less time to tweak 
my computers I started to understand the normal user who is frustrated 
when the system does not work out of the box.


I guess this is what I mean with stable system. Maybe a lot of these 
issues are not such a big deal when most of the community is technically 
very literate and can fix a lot of issues on their own computers. 
However, this does not allow mainstream users really to enjoy the systems.


And yes.. FLOSS means I should do something about it. And I really would 
like to. Since I am restructuring how I currently work my paid stuff, 
hopefully I will be able to contribute more in the future again.


Maybe we can have some of this in mind during UDS. Since we will have an 
LTS, quality should be our highest priority.


Ralph (txwikinger)

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Re: UDS Considerations for Kubuntu

2011-10-14 Thread Aurélien Gâteau

Le 14/10/2011 01:10, Markus Slopianka a écrit :

You can disagree with my observations but such harsh insults will not be 
tolerated by me.
I demand an apology!


Alex words were certainly not the most wisely chosen, but I certainly 
said similar or even worse things when I was fulminating while reading 
your messages. The only difference is I managed to refrain myself from 
writing them down to this list.


On the other hand, I would say you did much worse by derailing the 
discussion of developers investigating difficult decisions for the 
benefit of their users (yes, not shipping what upstream provides is a 
difficult decision for Kubuntu) ; instead trying to revive 3 year-old 
trolls. I mean, come on, D3lphin, KDE3, are we not done with this?  What 
do you expect will come out of that?


As such I think *you* owe this list an apology.

You made it very clear that you always hated Kubuntu, hate Kubuntu and 
will hate Kubuntu forever. What is much less clear to me is the reason 
why you are subscribed to this list. Do you see yourself as a disruptive 
agent behind enemy lines? Realistically, I do not expect you to 
apologize for your painful behavior, but maybe you can be convinced to 
unsubscribe from this list and use your time to do something 
constructive for KDE?


Aurélien


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Re: [Merge] lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/rocs into lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs

2011-10-14 Thread Romain Perier
Merged, thanks
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[Merge] lp:~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam into lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam

2011-10-14 Thread Rohan Garg
Rohan Garg has proposed merging lp:~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam into 
lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam.

Requested reviews:
  Kubuntu Packagers (kubuntu-packagers)

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/+merge/75909

Digikam 2.1.1 packaging
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Your team Kubuntu Packagers is requested to review the proposed merge of 
lp:~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam into 
lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam.
=== modified file 'debian/changelog'
--- debian/changelog	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/changelog	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -1,6 +1,16 @@
-digikam (2:2.0.0-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
-
-  * New upstream release (LP: #781128)
+digikam (2:2.1.1-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
+
+  [ Rohan Garg ]
+  * New upstream release (LP: #834190)
+- debian/control
+  + Build with libqtwebkit-dev
+   - debian/kipi-plugins-common
+  + Install libkvkontakte required by kipi-plugins
+   - debian/digikam
+  + Install panoramagui
+
+  [ Philip Muškovac ]
+  * New upstream release
 - debian/control: 
   + Add libcv-dev, libcvaux-dev, libhighgui-dev, libboost-graph1.46-dev,
 libksane-dev, libxml2-dev, libxslt-dev, libqt4-opengl-dev, libqjson-dev,
@@ -15,7 +25,7 @@
   * Fix typo in digikam-data description (LP: #804894)
   * Fix Vcs links
 
- -- Philip Muškovac yo...@kubuntu.org  Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:13:58 +0200
+ -- Rohan Garg shadesla...@kubuntu.org  Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:29:37 +0530
 
 digikam (2:1.9.0-1ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low
 

=== modified file 'debian/control'
--- debian/control	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/control	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -27,7 +27,8 @@
  libqt4-opengl-dev,
  libqjson-dev,
  libgpod-dev,
- libqca2-dev
+ libqca2-dev,
+ libqtwebkit-dev
 Standards-Version: 3.8.4
 Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
 Vcs-Browser: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam

=== modified file 'debian/digikam-data.install'
--- debian/digikam-data.install	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/digikam-data.install	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -4,3 +4,7 @@
 usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/digikamimageplugin.desktop
 usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/digikam/*
 usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/digikam.mo
+usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/panorama.png
+usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/panorama.png
+usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/panorama.png
+usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/actions/panorama.png

=== modified file 'debian/digikam.install'
--- debian/digikam.install	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/digikam.install	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
 usr/bin/cleanup_digikamdb
 usr/bin/digikam
 usr/bin/digitaglinktree
+usr/bin/panoramagui
 usr/lib/libdigikamcore.so.*
 usr/lib/libdigikamdatabase.so.*
 usr/lib/kde4/libexec/digikamdatabaseserver
@@ -10,3 +11,4 @@
 usr/lib/kde4/kio_digikam*
 usr/lib/kde4/digikamnepomukservice.so
 usr/share/applications/kde4/digikam.desktop
+usr/share/applications/kde4/panoramagui.desktop

=== modified file 'debian/kipi-plugins.install'
--- debian/kipi-plugins.install	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/kipi-plugins.install	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -8,3 +8,6 @@
 usr/share/applications/kde4/expoblending.desktop
 usr/share/applications/kde4/scangui.desktop
 usr/share/applications/kde4/dngconverter.desktop
+usr/lib/libkvkontakte.so
+usr/lib/libkvkontakte.so.1
+usr/lib/libkvkontakte.so.1.0.0

=== modified file 'debian/not-installed'
--- debian/not-installed	2011-08-27 19:14:59 +
+++ debian/not-installed	2011-09-18 16:42:34 +
@@ -22,3 +22,40 @@
 # compressed manpages
 ./usr/share/man/man1/cleanup_digikamdb.1
 ./usr/share/man/man1/digitaglinktree.1
+
+# devel headers not required
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/albuminfo.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/albumlistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/allmessageslistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/allnoteslistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/authenticationdialog.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/cidsnamesjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/createalbumjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/deletealbumjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/discussionslistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/editalbumjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/friendlistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/getapplicationpermissionsjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/getinfojob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/getvariablejob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte_export.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/messageinfo.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/messageslistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/noteaddjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/noteinfo.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/notejob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/noteslistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/photoinfo.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/photojob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/photolistjob.h
+./usr/include/libkvkontakte/qintlist.h