Re: Blue Shell PPA for Firefox -- package name confusion
well, I'm willing to commit, but I really don't know anything about the hows. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It's not politics. For security reasons, packages in the archive aren't > allowed to autoinstall from PPAs. The KDE Firefox patches were dropped > from > the Ubuntu archive Firefox due to the amount of work it took to keep them > up > to date and integrated with new Firefox releases. If someone from the > community were willing to commit to do that work, I think it would be worth > discussing with the Mozilla team about getting them back in. > > Scott K > > On Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:48:32 AM Dale Trombley wrote: > > Is it possible to include the ppa as part of the firefox-installer that > > comes on the iso? would it be possible for the firefox-installer to > > install this firefox-kde and have firefox be a separate package? Could > > firefox-kde be put on the standard kubuntu servers since it would be a > > different package than firefox and skip the whole ppa part to begin with? > > This would be ideal from a user point of view, and would simplify things > > for the end-user greatly. I don't know if any of this is possible from a > > canonical point of view or a kubuntu point of view and the politics > > therein, but now that we are truely a community version couldn't we just > do > > it anyway? > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rohan Garg > wrote: > > > Yep > > > > > > www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > >> Rohan Garg wrote: > > >> >Alrighty, here's a solution that I propose : > > >> > > > >> >Add a firefox-kde meta package that declares a explicit dependency on > > >> >the > > >> >firefox from the PPA ( as well as kmozillahelper ). This is the > > >> >package targeted towards the general users who want Firefox and KDE > > >> >integration. > > >> > > > >> >Other users who want Firefox with KDE integration but still want to > get > > >> >security updates can install the specific firefox version from the > ppa > > >> >by > > >> >supplying the version over the apt command line or adding the PPA and > > >> >upgrading. > > >> > > > >> >Thoughts? > > >> > > > >> >Best > > >> >Rohan Garg > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jussi Kekkonen > > >> > > > >> >wrote: > > >> >> Hi, > > >> >> > > >> >> Without knowing the details more in depth, is there any particular > > >> >> reason why the whole Firefox is bundled with the support? Any way > it > > >> >> could be a just support provided to "ubuntu-stock" Firefox as > > >> > > > >> >separate > > >> > > > >> >> package? > > >> >> > > >> >> On 20 September 2012 21:36, Rohan Garg > wrote: > > >> >> > Harald also pointed out that this would pose a security risk as > we > > >> > > > >> >do > > >> > > > >> >> > not have releases the same day as ubuntu. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Rohan Garg > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> As suggested on IRC a couple of minutes, would it be viable to > > >> >> >> document pinning the package using Muon? Jonathan says that this > > >> > > > >> >can > > >> > > > >> >> >> be done via muon ( downgrade the package and then pin it to the > > >> >> >> current version ). > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Best > > >> >> >> Rohan Garg > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >>> +1 > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> Ovidiu - Florin Bogdan > > >> >> >>> mob: +40 743-135.018 _ > > >> >> >>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads > > >> > > > >> >without a > > >> > > > >> >> >>> messy bloodbath. > > >> >> >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ovidiu.b13 > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Steve Riley < > st...@rileyz.net> > > >> >> > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> On 2012-09-19 22:34:11 Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > Does this package contain any elements that are specific to > > >> > > > >> >KDE? > > >> > > > >> >> It's Firefox compiled with KDE support. More info here: > > >> >> > > >> >> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde > > >> >> > > >> >> ...Steve > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > > >> >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > > >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> -- > > >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel mailing list > > >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > > >> >> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > kubuntu-devel mailing list > > >> >> > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >
Re: Blue Shell PPA for Firefox -- package name confusion
It's not politics. For security reasons, packages in the archive aren't allowed to autoinstall from PPAs. The KDE Firefox patches were dropped from the Ubuntu archive Firefox due to the amount of work it took to keep them up to date and integrated with new Firefox releases. If someone from the community were willing to commit to do that work, I think it would be worth discussing with the Mozilla team about getting them back in. Scott K On Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:48:32 AM Dale Trombley wrote: > Is it possible to include the ppa as part of the firefox-installer that > comes on the iso? would it be possible for the firefox-installer to > install this firefox-kde and have firefox be a separate package? Could > firefox-kde be put on the standard kubuntu servers since it would be a > different package than firefox and skip the whole ppa part to begin with? > This would be ideal from a user point of view, and would simplify things > for the end-user greatly. I don't know if any of this is possible from a > canonical point of view or a kubuntu point of view and the politics > therein, but now that we are truely a community version couldn't we just do > it anyway? > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rohan Garg wrote: > > Yep > > > > www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Rohan Garg wrote: > >> >Alrighty, here's a solution that I propose : > >> > > >> >Add a firefox-kde meta package that declares a explicit dependency on > >> >the > >> >firefox from the PPA ( as well as kmozillahelper ). This is the > >> >package targeted towards the general users who want Firefox and KDE > >> >integration. > >> > > >> >Other users who want Firefox with KDE integration but still want to get > >> >security updates can install the specific firefox version from the ppa > >> >by > >> >supplying the version over the apt command line or adding the PPA and > >> >upgrading. > >> > > >> >Thoughts? > >> > > >> >Best > >> >Rohan Garg > >> > > >> > > >> >www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > >> > > >> > > >> >On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jussi Kekkonen > >> > > >> >wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> Without knowing the details more in depth, is there any particular > >> >> reason why the whole Firefox is bundled with the support? Any way it > >> >> could be a just support provided to "ubuntu-stock" Firefox as > >> > > >> >separate > >> > > >> >> package? > >> >> > >> >> On 20 September 2012 21:36, Rohan Garg wrote: > >> >> > Harald also pointed out that this would pose a security risk as we > >> > > >> >do > >> > > >> >> > not have releases the same day as ubuntu. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Rohan Garg > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> As suggested on IRC a couple of minutes, would it be viable to > >> >> >> document pinning the package using Muon? Jonathan says that this > >> > > >> >can > >> > > >> >> >> be done via muon ( downgrade the package and then pin it to the > >> >> >> current version ). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Best > >> >> >> Rohan Garg > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > >> >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> +1 > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Ovidiu - Florin Bogdan > >> >> >>> mob: +40 743-135.018 _ > >> >> >>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads > >> > > >> >without a > >> > > >> >> >>> messy bloodbath. > >> >> >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ovidiu.b13 > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Steve Riley > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> On 2012-09-19 22:34:11 Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Does this package contain any elements that are specific to > >> > > >> >KDE? > >> > > >> >> It's Firefox compiled with KDE support. More info here: > >> >> > >> >> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde > >> >> > >> >> ...Steve > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> >> > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T > >> >> > >> >> Ubuntu/KDE developer t...@ubuntu.com > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/k
Re: Blue Shell PPA for Firefox -- package name confusion
Is it possible to include the ppa as part of the firefox-installer that comes on the iso? would it be possible for the firefox-installer to install this firefox-kde and have firefox be a separate package? Could firefox-kde be put on the standard kubuntu servers since it would be a different package than firefox and skip the whole ppa part to begin with? This would be ideal from a user point of view, and would simplify things for the end-user greatly. I don't know if any of this is possible from a canonical point of view or a kubuntu point of view and the politics therein, but now that we are truely a community version couldn't we just do it anyway? On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rohan Garg wrote: > Yep > > www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Rohan Garg wrote: >> >> >Alrighty, here's a solution that I propose : >> > >> >Add a firefox-kde meta package that declares a explicit dependency on >> >the >> >firefox from the PPA ( as well as kmozillahelper ). This is the >> >package targeted towards the general users who want Firefox and KDE >> >integration. >> > >> >Other users who want Firefox with KDE integration but still want to get >> >security updates can install the specific firefox version from the ppa >> >by >> >supplying the version over the apt command line or adding the PPA and >> >upgrading. >> > >> >Thoughts? >> > >> >Best >> >Rohan Garg >> > >> > >> >www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jussi Kekkonen >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Without knowing the details more in depth, is there any particular >> >> reason why the whole Firefox is bundled with the support? Any way it >> >> could be a just support provided to "ubuntu-stock" Firefox as >> >separate >> >> package? >> >> >> >> On 20 September 2012 21:36, Rohan Garg wrote: >> >> > Harald also pointed out that this would pose a security risk as we >> >do >> >> > not have releases the same day as ubuntu. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Rohan Garg >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> As suggested on IRC a couple of minutes, would it be viable to >> >> >> document pinning the package using Muon? Jonathan says that this >> >can >> >> >> be done via muon ( downgrade the package and then pin it to the >> >> >> current version ). >> >> >> >> >> >> Best >> >> >> Rohan Garg >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> +1 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Ovidiu - Florin Bogdan >> >> >>> mob: +40 743-135.018 _ >> >> >>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads >> >without a >> >> >>> messy bloodbath. >> >> >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ovidiu.b13 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Steve Riley >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2012-09-19 22:34:11 Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Does this package contain any elements that are specific to >> >KDE? >> >> >> >> It's Firefox compiled with KDE support. More info here: >> >> >> >> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde >> >> >> >> ...Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> >> >>> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-devel mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T >> >> Ubuntu/KDE developer t...@ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >kubuntu-devel mailing list >> >kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> >> I missed the start of this thread. You're just talking about PPA >> packages, right? >> >> Scott K >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> > > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > -- *Dale Trombley Admin, Historic Threads historicthreads.com ad...@historicthreads.com Admin, My Summerfield Fa
Re: Blue Shell PPA for Firefox -- package name confusion
Yep www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Rohan Garg wrote: > > >Alrighty, here's a solution that I propose : > > > >Add a firefox-kde meta package that declares a explicit dependency on > >the > >firefox from the PPA ( as well as kmozillahelper ). This is the > >package targeted towards the general users who want Firefox and KDE > >integration. > > > >Other users who want Firefox with KDE integration but still want to get > >security updates can install the specific firefox version from the ppa > >by > >supplying the version over the apt command line or adding the PPA and > >upgrading. > > > >Thoughts? > > > >Best > >Rohan Garg > > > > > >www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > > > > >On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jussi Kekkonen > >wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Without knowing the details more in depth, is there any particular > >> reason why the whole Firefox is bundled with the support? Any way it > >> could be a just support provided to "ubuntu-stock" Firefox as > >separate > >> package? > >> > >> On 20 September 2012 21:36, Rohan Garg wrote: > >> > Harald also pointed out that this would pose a security risk as we > >do > >> > not have releases the same day as ubuntu. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Rohan Garg > > > >> wrote: > >> >> As suggested on IRC a couple of minutes, would it be viable to > >> >> document pinning the package using Muon? Jonathan says that this > >can > >> >> be done via muon ( downgrade the package and then pin it to the > >> >> current version ). > >> >> > >> >> Best > >> >> Rohan Garg > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> +1 > >> >>> > >> >>> Ovidiu - Florin Bogdan > >> >>> mob: +40 743-135.018 _ > >> >>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads > >without a > >> >>> messy bloodbath. > >> >>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ovidiu.b13 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Steve Riley > >> wrote: > >> > >> On 2012-09-19 22:34:11 Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan > > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does this package contain any elements that are specific to > >KDE? > >> > >> It's Firefox compiled with KDE support. More info here: > >> > >> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde > >> > >> ...Steve > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> >>> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> >>> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T > >> Ubuntu/KDE developer t...@ubuntu.com > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> > > > > > > > > > >-- > >kubuntu-devel mailing list > >kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > I missed the start of this thread. You're just talking about PPA > packages, right? > > Scott K > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
